Sheogorath
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Post by Sheogorath on Feb 2, 2009 5:09:34 GMT -5
The sixteenth? That's two weeks away! Wow. Guess my sources were kinda old... Yeah. I'm not going to enjoy having to pick a character to kill off. Luckily it's in the prologue, so you only have, like, four to pick from. Apparently it's hinted that it should be the overleveled paladin. And you are given a "one life regained" thing later on... way later... so you can at least get the guy back, but it's so far back in the game that, honestly, he would be useless. I read an entire FAQ for the game today, out of boredom. It seems pretty interesting. Plus I like the name.... Shadow DragonHas a nice ring to it, dontcha think? Anywho... I wanted to keep Leila!!! She looked butt-kickin and I wanted to use her, have her and Matthew get an A support, and them get married! I was so depressed when she died. But, yeah, I do kinda agree with that method more than me having to choose. I fall in love with all of the characters in their own special way and I never let them die. RD was hard. I counted. There was almost 70 characters in the end... and all of the ones I managed to recruit - I was missing some half-laguz guy and one other, I think - were still alive. It was hard, but I managed it! Twice! Now I want them to remake Roy's game. Especially so I can see old Eliwood and Hector. And so I can have Hector's little girl whose name escapes me and Roy end up together. It'd be cute. Other than that, I wonder what new plotline they'll come up with next. Hopefully something interesting. Another Wii game would be nice. Don't get me wrong, I mean Shadow Dragon does have a nice ring to it, I agree, but let's not mince words. It's Fire Emblem, and it's for the DS. And as far as your sources, I dunno about any of that, but I was on Amazon the other day to price Radiant Dawn, they don't have it, but the least expensive price from a third-party seller was roughly $38. Not too bad. I was looking at Radiant Dawn, and saw Shadow Dragon on the list of games that popped up with it. I looked at that, and it said that it was due on the 16th, along with a couple of other games, and I added them all to my list. But that's a good tip. Let the Paladin die! I have a tendency to use the Paladin to guard the weaklings until they're powerful enough, but if they're the one who's supposed to die, then they're the one who'se going to do so. Of course, if they're useless by the time you can bring them back, I'm using the "One life regained" thing to bring someone else back! But even then, if they're all going to be useless by then, why bother, right? And have you ever noticed how your first over-leveled character is ALWAYS a Paladin? In the first one, it was Marcus, who was about 60 years old and still fighting in Roy's game. In TSS, it was Seth, and in PoR, it was Titania. How about a Sage or General? Even a Sniper or a Priest would be good. Oh, yeah, especially Priests. Clerics and the like can't attack, but they can be attacked. Yeah, that's fair. Sure, you want to make sure the powerful enemies can't be healed, but come on. Would being able to use Light magic from the word go, or pull TSS and be able to choose to become a Priest or a Sage (Which I always do to Moulder) be too much to ask? Come on, man.
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Post by Tera253 on Feb 2, 2009 7:17:01 GMT -5
Yeah. I read the spoilers for that one. Soren is, actually, the Prince. Pelleas isn't. On your second playthrough of RD, you find out that Pelleas isn't, but you find out that Soren is through the PoR/RD transfer thingy. Micaiah is half and half, too. So are a couple other people in the game. It's not as big of a deal by the end of the game. *Whistles.* Well, that's interesting. Well, being half-human and half-laguz is a big deal in PoR, not that I suspect it was mentioned outside of Soren and Ike's A-level support conversation, although, I do know it wasn't mentioned as part of the main game. The old sage who taught Soren magic, it's revealed in Ike and his A-level support conversation, thought he was a Spirit Charmer, spellcasters who allow spirits into their bodies and are allowed by the spirits to make use of their powers, for a price. What that price may be, I don't know, they didn't say. ahh... the Branded. yeah, I knew that before I even played the game... I'm not sure how... I think it was Wikipedia. and then even if you look at it, Soren has some serious resemblance to Almedha... dark green [almsot black] hair, red eyes... yeah, that little guy's got one hell of a backstory... I always thought it was awesome. ~Sanaki~
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Post by concreteangel on Feb 2, 2009 9:21:39 GMT -5
The sixteenth? That's two weeks away! Wow. Guess my sources were kinda old... Yeah. I'm not going to enjoy having to pick a character to kill off. Luckily it's in the prologue, so you only have, like, four to pick from. Apparently it's hinted that it should be the overleveled paladin. And you are given a "one life regained" thing later on... way later... so you can at least get the guy back, but it's so far back in the game that, honestly, he would be useless. I read an entire FAQ for the game today, out of boredom. It seems pretty interesting. Plus I like the name.... Shadow DragonHas a nice ring to it, dontcha think? Anywho... I wanted to keep Leila!!! She looked butt-kickin and I wanted to use her, have her and Matthew get an A support, and them get married! I was so depressed when she died. But, yeah, I do kinda agree with that method more than me having to choose. I fall in love with all of the characters in their own special way and I never let them die. RD was hard. I counted. There was almost 70 characters in the end... and all of the ones I managed to recruit - I was missing some half-laguz guy and one other, I think - were still alive. It was hard, but I managed it! Twice! Now I want them to remake Roy's game. Especially so I can see old Eliwood and Hector. And so I can have Hector's little girl whose name escapes me and Roy end up together. It'd be cute. Other than that, I wonder what new plotline they'll come up with next. Hopefully something interesting. Another Wii game would be nice. Don't get me wrong, I mean Shadow Dragon does have a nice ring to it, I agree, but let's not mince words. It's Fire Emblem, and it's for the DS. And as far as your sources, I dunno about any of that, but I was on Amazon the other day to price Radiant Dawn, they don't have it, but the least expensive price from a third-party seller was roughly $38. Not too bad. I was looking at Radiant Dawn, and saw Shadow Dragon on the list of games that popped up with it. I looked at that, and it said that it was due on the 16th, along with a couple of other games, and I added them all to my list. But that's a good tip. Let the Paladin die! I have a tendency to use the Paladin to guard the weaklings until they're powerful enough, but if they're the one who's supposed to die, then they're the one who'se going to do so. Of course, if they're useless by the time you can bring them back, I'm using the "One life regained" thing to bring someone else back! But even then, if they're all going to be useless by then, why bother, right? And have you ever noticed how your first over-leveled character is ALWAYS a Paladin? In the first one, it was Marcus, who was about 60 years old and still fighting in Roy's game. In TSS, it was Seth, and in PoR, it was Titania. How about a Sage or General? Even a Sniper or a Priest would be good. Oh, yeah, especially Priests. Clerics and the like can't attack, but they can be attacked. Yeah, that's fair. Sure, you want to make sure the powerful enemies can't be healed, but come on. Would being able to use Light magic from the word go, or pull TSS and be able to choose to become a Priest or a Sage (Which I always do to Moulder) be too much to ask? Come on, man. I did notice, actually. I think it's for one of two reasons. One - a paladin is such a powerful character anyway. Versatile. Strong. Or two - most of the time, you're playing with weakling royalty, and, what guards royalty? Knights. But not wimpy little knights-in-training. Strong, experienced knights. The only time reason 2 doesn't make sense is Titania. Ike is definitely not a weak little princeling. And then, of course, there's Sothe, who comes overleveled but is not a knight in any way. The one life regained chance comes in, like, chapter 23. Of 24 + endgame (I think that's the right numbers...) so if you lost someone in, say, chapter 22, they'll probably be okay. But reviving the person you sacrificed waaaaaay back in the prequel wouldn't do you much good.
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Sheogorath
Kyoshi Azula
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Post by Sheogorath on Feb 3, 2009 0:23:30 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I mean Shadow Dragon does have a nice ring to it, I agree, but let's not mince words. It's Fire Emblem, and it's for the DS. And as far as your sources, I dunno about any of that, but I was on Amazon the other day to price Radiant Dawn, they don't have it, but the least expensive price from a third-party seller was roughly $38. Not too bad. I was looking at Radiant Dawn, and saw Shadow Dragon on the list of games that popped up with it. I looked at that, and it said that it was due on the 16th, along with a couple of other games, and I added them all to my list. But that's a good tip. Let the Paladin die! I have a tendency to use the Paladin to guard the weaklings until they're powerful enough, but if they're the one who's supposed to die, then they're the one who'se going to do so. Of course, if they're useless by the time you can bring them back, I'm using the "One life regained" thing to bring someone else back! But even then, if they're all going to be useless by then, why bother, right? And have you ever noticed how your first over-leveled character is ALWAYS a Paladin? In the first one, it was Marcus, who was about 60 years old and still fighting in Roy's game. In TSS, it was Seth, and in PoR, it was Titania. How about a Sage or General? Even a Sniper or a Priest would be good. Oh, yeah, especially Priests. Clerics and the like can't attack, but they can be attacked. Yeah, that's fair. Sure, you want to make sure the powerful enemies can't be healed, but come on. Would being able to use Light magic from the word go, or pull TSS and be able to choose to become a Priest or a Sage (Which I always do to Moulder) be too much to ask? Come on, man. I did notice, actually. I think it's for one of two reasons. One - a paladin is such a powerful character anyway. Versatile. Strong. Or two - most of the time, you're playing with weakling royalty, and, what guards royalty? Knights. But not wimpy little knights-in-training. Strong, experienced knights. The only time reason 2 doesn't make sense is Titania. Ike is definitely not a weak little princeling. And then, of course, there's Sothe, who comes overleveled but is not a knight in any way. The one life regained chance comes in, like, chapter 23. Of 24 + endgame (I think that's the right numbers...) so if you lost someone in, say, chapter 22, they'll probably be okay. But reviving the person you sacrificed waaaaaay back in the prequel wouldn't do you much good. Is Eliwood weak? Hector? Lyndis? How about Ephraim? Sure, Eliwood, Hector and Lyn all start at low level, but they can easily enough kill enemies on their own and level up fast enough. And Generals are powerful, too. They usually have max HP and Defense well before level 20, and even if they don't til level 20, they still take a hit much better than even a Paladin who did go all the way as a Cavalier beforehand but started the game at Paladin level 1. Sure, some Generals may not reach max Strength, but if you let them go all the way with lances, they're still a serious threat with Silver Lances. It's all that Defense. Paladins can move, yes, but they just don't get the staying power til later if that's how they start. Myself, I'd rather have a General who quickly reached max HP, Defense, and Skill early on and still not be able to move very far than a Paladin who didn't max any stat but could move everywhere on one early map. An early Paladin who does that isn't saving anyone when their Lordling is still their starting class and the enemy can take the Paladin because of their inferior stats one turn then the Lordling the next. But that's where third-tier comes in. You said they have higher stats in third-tier than second-tier, right? A Paladin who changes class to their third-tier is even better, sure, they have the staying power then, but a General already has it by then AND they just get better stat-wise when they do.
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Post by concreteangel on Feb 6, 2009 15:31:12 GMT -5
Eliwood and Lyn are pretty weak for a while. Once you baby them up a few levels, they're okay. But you have to do that work first.
Generals are pretty good. But I HATE how slow they are. Seriously. It drives me insane. A Paladin can get halfway across the map in one turn to rescue anyone that needs to be rescued. (Oftentimes, for me, it's the little archer babies early on.) I think the only time I ever used any type of general in the final battle was RD where I used Gatrie. I'm testing Oswin in my current round of the colon-less Fire Emblem game that really does need a second part to the title. You could call it FE: HEL (Hector, Eliwood, Lyn) but the game doesn't match that name... Alas, I think that's what I might refer to it as from now on...
I love third-tier. And I don't see why they only chose to put it in RD. Seriously. A 3rd tier in the other games would make it so much better. Marksmen, especially. I would raise a bunch of archers if I could have some marksmen. I used both Rolf and Shinon in RD for that purpose alone. They can shoot from 3 spaces away and their critical hit ratio is astronomical. If only they had those in some of the other games....
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Sheogorath
Kyoshi Azula
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Post by Sheogorath on Feb 6, 2009 23:19:20 GMT -5
Eliwood and Lyn are pretty weak for a while. Once you baby them up a few levels, they're okay. But you have to do that work first. Generals are pretty good. But I HATE how slow they are. Seriously. It drives me insane. A Paladin can get halfway across the map in one turn to rescue anyone that needs to be rescued. (Oftentimes, for me, it's the little archer babies early on.) I think the only time I ever used any type of general in the final battle was RD where I used Gatrie. I'm testing Oswin in my current round of the colon-less Fire Emblem game that really does need a second part to the title. You could call it FE: HEL (Hector, Eliwood, Lyn) but the game doesn't match that name... Alas, I think that's what I might refer to it as from now on... I love third-tier. And I don't see why they only chose to put it in RD. Seriously. A 3rd tier in the other games would make it so much better. Marksmen, especially. I would raise a bunch of archers if I could have some marksmen. I used both Rolf and Shinon in RD for that purpose alone. They can shoot from 3 spaces away and their critical hit ratio is astronomical. If only they had those in some of the other games.... Well... If you want to get technical, the first U.S. Fire Emblem did have a second part to it's title. In Japan, it went as Fire Emblem: Rekka no Ken. What that means, I have no idea. Personally, I love Generals. They can't move far, sure, but they take a hit better than a Paladin, whose Defense maxes at 25 for most, whereas most Generals cap at 30. In my current round with the first one, Sain and Marcus didn't even reach max Defense. And HP? Oswin has almost 60, like 58 or so. My highest HP Paladin? Lowen, with 55, with Kent and Sain coming next each with 50, then Marcus with only 46. Sure, the Paladin's movement is useful, but looking at stats and stats alone, as defenders, they fail. Especially when you consider that late in the game, I can have Paladins fight, be hit once and take damage, possibly to be killed if attacked enough, whereas I've had Generals do the same and not take damage but for half total HP, if that. I don't really disparage Paladins, I mean, I love Titania, but I prefer Generals. Especially when you consider that in the first one, Oswin has 29 Strength at max, but Kent, Sain, Marcus, and Lowen all only have 24 or 25 Strength at max. Generals are also better attackers. Besides which. In war, who does the royal family's bidding on the battlefield? The army. And who commands the army? Generals. And if the royals were to get involved in the actual fighting, who's job would it be to keep them safe? It would fall on the people who can take the hardest hits the longest: soldiers in heavy armor, in Fire Emblem, Knights and Generals. But a turn from the normal and having a Sage or a Sniper being your first permanent over-leveled character would be interesting. I think so, anyway.
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Post by concreteangel on Feb 8, 2009 22:31:37 GMT -5
Oh yeah, definitely. Picture it:
Adorable little princess, about sixteen years of age. Her mother is dead and her father is the King of some area. Another land's army, probably a former ally, starts attacking one day, and the adorable little princess who has been trained for a few years on how to fight with a rapier is made to run as far away from the palace as she can with only her father's most loyal soldier beside her. But who is this? A trustworthy, handsome young sage, who worked his way up through the soldier's ranks quicker than all the others because of his skills with magic. The princess and the sage are secretly in love with each other but he hides it due to the fact that he is supposed to be her protector, not her lover, and he knows that if he lets his feelings get in the way, she will never be ready to be Queen.
My little scenario kinda reminds me of Seth and Eirika in Sacred Stones but it still works.
I kinda wish they would use a dracoknight or lord or whatever the second rank is. That would be awesome.
I feel like writing a Fire Emblem fanfic now using that little scenario and maybe throwing in a dashing, charming dracolord...
I'm a hopeless romantic, but it is quite adorable.
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Sheogorath
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Post by Sheogorath on Feb 8, 2009 23:12:04 GMT -5
Oh yeah, definitely. Picture it: Adorable little princess, about sixteen years of age. Her mother is dead and her father is the King of some area. Another land's army, probably a former ally, starts attacking one day, and the adorable little princess who has been trained for a few years on how to fight with a rapier is made to run as far away from the palace as she can with only her father's most loyal soldier beside her. But who is this? A trustworthy, handsome young sage, who worked his way up through the soldier's ranks quicker than all the others because of his skills with magic. The princess and the sage are secretly in love with each other but he hides it due to the fact that he is supposed to be her protector, not her lover, and he knows that if he lets his feelings get in the way, she will never be ready to be Queen. My little scenario kinda reminds me of Seth and Eirika in Sacred Stones but it still works. I kinda wish they would use a dracoknight or lord or whatever the second rank is. That would be awesome. I feel like writing a Fire Emblem fanfic now using that little scenario and maybe throwing in a dashing, charming dracolord... I'm a hopeless romantic, but it is quite adorable. I dunno about that. I'm just ready for a change. Besides which, romance in Fire Emblem is never obvious except for characters the story automatically puts together, like Lord Pent and Lady Louise from the first one, or Eliwood and Ninian. Come to think of it, the first one is the only one I can think of that has obvious romances in it.
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Post by concreteangel on Feb 9, 2009 2:20:08 GMT -5
I don't understand how anyone could put Eliwood and Ninian with anyone but each other....
Maybe I look for it, but the Seth/Eirika thing seemed kinda obious to me. And Lyn and Kent. And that one general and the pegasus girl.... Vanessa's sister. Colm and Neimi was definitely obvious, too. And Matthew and Leila, even though you didn't get to keep her. And Jaffar and Nino was a tad bit obvious. But I actually look for the subtle little clues that give away a possible love connection.
I think I'm going to have to write a fanfic now... a rather long one at that... with my adorable little princess and the dracolord and the sage and a few others.
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Post by Tera253 on Feb 9, 2009 21:55:04 GMT -5
Besides which, romance in Fire Emblem is never obvious except for characters the story automatically puts together, That stays true even in Radiant Dawn... =P ~Katara~
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Sheogorath
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Post by Sheogorath on Feb 10, 2009 0:19:37 GMT -5
I don't understand how anyone could put Eliwood and Ninian with anyone but each other.... Maybe I look for it, but the Seth/Eirika thing seemed kinda obious to me. And Lyn and Kent. And that one general and the pegasus girl.... Vanessa's sister. Colm and Neimi was definitely obvious, too. And Matthew and Leila, even though you didn't get to keep her. And Jaffar and Nino was a tad bit obvious. But I actually look for the subtle little clues that give away a possible love connection. I think I'm going to have to write a fanfic now... a rather long one at that... with my adorable little princess and the dracolord and the sage and a few others. You mean Gilliam? I dunno, I always thought Vanessa was a better match for him, but we come back to the fact that they don't have too many scenes together if memory serves. That and even if they do, there's no real romance between any of them. And I think Nino and Jaffar are too far apart in age to have a romance between them. To me, that's more of a brother/sister ship.
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Post by concreteangel on Feb 10, 2009 0:28:10 GMT -5
Well apparently you haven't gotten them to an A support... he tells her he can't be only her friend anymore because he's in love with her. And then in the end they get married.
I'm getting serious about this fanfic. Anyone wanna help me with it?
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Sheogorath
Kyoshi Azula
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Post by Sheogorath on Feb 10, 2009 0:32:57 GMT -5
Well apparently you haven't gotten them to an A support... he tells her he can't be only her friend anymore because he's in love with her. And then in the end they get married. I'm getting serious about this fanfic. Anyone wanna help me with it? I don't ever pair Jaffar up with anyone. He joins really near the end of the game, so there's, like, no time to get him or Nino to a A-rank support with anyone. It was the Final Chapter that I got Canas and Nino to an A-rank support.
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Post by concreteangel on Feb 10, 2009 0:40:59 GMT -5
I always pair Jaffar with Nino as soon as I get him. Neither of them ever makes it to a very high level because I'm trying to get them to stand next to each other all the time.
Another good thing to do is, when you have to seize to clear, don't seize until they've been beside each other and had a support conversation. Then, it takes only 3 levels to get the A rank support.
I had SO many supports in Sacred Stones because I would use the training area. I'd clear it out of everyone but the boss, have different sets of people standing beside each other, lather, rinse, and repeat about 12 times and you have so many marriages it's insane. It's pretty effective if you like doing that sort of thing.
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Sheogorath
Kyoshi Azula
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Post by Sheogorath on Feb 10, 2009 4:10:07 GMT -5
I always pair Jaffar with Nino as soon as I get him. Neither of them ever makes it to a very high level because I'm trying to get them to stand next to each other all the time. Another good thing to do is, when you have to seize to clear, don't seize until they've been beside each other and had a support conversation. Then, it takes only 3 levels to get the A rank support. I had SO many supports in Sacred Stones because I would use the training area. I'd clear it out of everyone but the boss, have different sets of people standing beside each other, lather, rinse, and repeat about 12 times and you have so many marriages it's insane. It's pretty effective if you like doing that sort of thing. I'm really only in it for the stat and therefore combat bonuses.
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