Fruit
Katara
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Post by Fruit on May 21, 2008 22:55:46 GMT -5
Zutara, Tokka and kinda Sukka. I'm a MUCH bigger fan of tokka, but if it ends up sukka in the end id still be happy. ;]
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Post by KyoshiWarrior on Jun 4, 2008 14:46:25 GMT -5
I voted for Zutara, Sukka, and other. The "other" is Urskoda and Yukka. I think Sokka and Suki make the best couple EVER! And I think Ursa with Hakoda would be romantic.
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Tera253
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Post by Tera253 on Jun 6, 2008 19:59:00 GMT -5
I voted for Zutara, Tokka, and Other. under "Other" somes a multitude of ships, 99% of them being crack. the most prominent of those was Ty Lozai, but that's for anther time. ~Zuko~
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Post by nymphadora on Jun 6, 2008 20:06:33 GMT -5
^^Woo I ship Zutara, Tokka, and other crack ships too! *high five* Do you think Aang should be alone or who do you put him with. I like him with Ty Lee or Mai, but those are crack even though I wouldn't mind either.
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Tera253
Gran Gran
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Post by Tera253 on Jun 6, 2008 20:17:39 GMT -5
I just kinda overlooked Aang, but now that you mention it, putting him with Ty Lee might actually work... pof course, I'd rather have Ty Lee with Ozai (Ty Lozai) for my own reasons (lol) but since I know that's a one-in-a-million, I think he'd actually go great with Ty Lee. they're both the really happy type.
~Katara~
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Post by nymphadora on Jun 6, 2008 20:18:53 GMT -5
I like Ty Lee with Aang because they both have that spazzy happy personality like the *poof* and Mai is the opposite of Aang, so it's just random. xD
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Tera253
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Post by Tera253 on Jun 6, 2008 21:11:26 GMT -5
I like Zutara 'coz I think it's cool... they seem like the type who'd beat each other up... hehehe... and then Tokka. Tokka's really cute in my opinion.. and then there's crack ships, but I'm not gonna get into those. ~Toph~
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Post by Recca on Jul 1, 2008 1:08:43 GMT -5
I votted toko OTP it's my favorite couple
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asian malaysian
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Let me hear you say this ship is bananas! B-A-NA-N-A-S!
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Post by asian malaysian on Jul 2, 2008 2:48:07 GMT -5
I find it weird that Maiko is scoring so poorly. No fans of that ship on the forum?
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Zenjamin
Ba Sing Se Zuko
Toko supporter
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Post by Zenjamin on Jul 19, 2008 1:25:17 GMT -5
Ok, I know I am performing some minor necromancy by bringing this thread back, but im hoping to bring some more attention to Toko after that last excellent episode. In the past, I have argued that Toko would provide the best and most benificial personality dynamics of any ship in the series. I talked about how well they would interact, about how Zuko would need her honesty and her direct affection. I would just like to say that this episode completely confirmed everything I had said. And judging from the reactions of This most recent episode, people seem to have liked the Toko interaction more then anything else. Lets see if I can drag up that old post I made: when I have time, ill prob go back with some quoted responses, but in the meantime, Ill post a conversation I had with another member that shows that Toph would be the best person to help Zuko, and Zuko would be the best person to help Toph. Disclaimer: when we talk about Toko, it is only platonic at first, and romantic once they are older. Heya guys. Ive said before how Toph would be better for Zuko's personality then anybody else. About how she would encourage him to be the best of himself without ignoring his problems(mai) or telling him how to act(katara). "Snap out of it sunshine. you know what needs to be done. Just be who you are, not what others think you should be. you have the answer already" but I havent really given much thought as to how Zuko would benefit Toph in a relationship(or anybody for that matter:P) I know they could bond over being from noble blood whose parents just didnt understand who they were as individuals... but what else? what could Zuko bring to Toph, that nobody else could? This is a good point that I haven't really thought of. The sympathy factor on the parents thing is of course the first thing I thought of, but you already have that... Something else I thought of was that he might be able to give her the reality check that she gives the others when they're wrong. She doesn't baby Aang when it comes to earthbending, and she wasn't afraid to put the gaang in their place when she knew they were being childish. However, as often as I think Toph has these mature moments (defending Zuko, suggesting going to the source of firebending), I think she has just as many immature moments. The Runaway was a good indication of that. Sure, Toph can grow out of immaturity but I think a major issue with Toph is her pride, which isn't so easily gotten rid of. I think Zuko can understand this because this is something he's gotten past. Toph's pride however isn't so completely and obviously detrimental to her physical and mental health, so I don't think it's something that she'll get over as much as Zuko. This might lead to a problem when she needs those reality checks that I was talking about, when she's wrong and her partner knows it. It's extremely hard to fight against Toph even if only with words because of her pride. So far, the only person who has really been able to do this is Katara as a mother figure, and even she didn't do it well until Sokka explained his and Katara's circumstances. I don't really see Sokka or Aang confronting Toph like that. Sokka might, but honestly I can only think of in TWAT when Toph was missing, he was like, "Let her play with her rocks, I'm not in a hurry to have her yelling at us again." To me, that seems like an indication of what they be like. I honestly think Sokka might fight a little while but would probably overall give up and just let her have it her way unless it was extremely important that she know that she's wrong. In Aang's case, Toph had to actually teach Aang to fight back during the series, so I honestly think he would avoid the argument even more than Sokka. Zuko on the other hand I think wouldn't back down. Sure, he doesn't have as much pride as he used to, but I don't think that means he'll let Toph push him around like she does the others. I think he would let her vent we she needed to without saying anything (he's already shown that he could do this with Katara before they were even on the same side), but if she's doing something stupid, I think he would try to put her in her place. Try being the key word, but I definitely think he would try more and succeed more than Sokka and Aang. I don't mean that I think Toph and Zuko would fight and bicker constantly, but I think that Zuko would be able to fight more successfully against Toph when he needed to. Finally, I think that Zuko could help Toph get over some of her insecurities. Toph seems so strong and doesn't really seem to care that she's blind most of time, but there are times when she's shown that being blind affects her emotionally. Usually when we think of Zuko's scar in relationship to Toph, we think that it would be advantageous on Zuko's side because she won't judge him based on looks, but I think it would also work to Toph's advantage knowing that he has some sort of physical deformity, especially over his eye (parallel omg!). For the few times when Toph feels affected by her blindness, like when she was in the water and when she became slightly insecure over her lack of girliness and her looks, I think that knowing that Zuko also has some sort of glaring, obvious weakness, even if only making him physically less appealing, would help her connect to him more. It's part of the reason why I think the scar-touching scenario seems so intimate to me, because it's a connection on both side, not just Zuko. I'll try to think of other reasons when I have a chance, since right now I need to study and this post is long enough already. On a completely random note, does anyone else think that "Sparky" is kind of a weak nickname for Toph to give to Zuko? I just don't think it fits him that well, mainly because when I think of spark I think of electricity, even though I realize it could work for a flame.... Verry karma worthy. The parent issues will parallel, along with the deformity. Also, it seems that zuko has finally learned the lesson of humility that Iroh was trying to teach him, and he could pass that on to Toph. “pride is not the opposite of shame, but rather its source. True humility is the only antidote to shame.” Toph is kind of inwardly insecure. and Zuko is outwardly insecure, thinking he needs to maintain appearances for others. Obviously, zuko has no problem with his initial internal weakness. "Ive always had to struggle and fight. and that's made me strong." And Toph has no problem with her public image "I dont care what other people think, I know who I am" Each could strengthen that within the other, and it is exactly what they need. I would be verry surprised if Toph doesnt remind Zuko that his father doesnt define who he is, he does. And I can so see Zuko telling Toph her blindness makes her strong. And that enduring strength makes her noble and beautiful. EDIT: Zutara! They'd have one heck of a relationship, think of all the fireworks! After Katara puts aside her petty resentments (Okay so he DID try to have them all killed) they will look like the best couple. I think look wise they work well together (plus maybe she can heal him). I'll root for Aang when he grows some hair (and keeps it) and grows a little taller (deeper voice couldn't hurt). Plusss Zuko looks pretty kickin' with his current do. actually, I think (older)Toko would be the best looking couple out of every ship. (including kataang, though aang is looking to have a more manly build each episode.) I know thats a strongly opinionated thing. but just read This. (excellent, but short one-shot) There. So with the context of the most recent episode, do any of you want to add future Toko as a side ship? you can retract and revote as many times as you want, and you can have up to three votes. Toko.
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pg15
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"Since beginningless time, darkness thrives in the void, but always yields to purifying light."
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Post by pg15 on Jul 19, 2008 1:46:06 GMT -5
I would SO vote for Toko after TEIP...but I also want to vote for Kataang, Maiko, and Sukka.
ARGH.
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Zenjamin
Ba Sing Se Zuko
Toko supporter
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Post by Zenjamin on Jul 19, 2008 1:57:15 GMT -5
I would drop maiko for Toko, becaus Toko trumphs Maiko for the reasons listed above, and they contradict. Also, you cant split up Sukka after they smexed eachother up in TSR.
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aquavi
Casual Zuko
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Post by aquavi on Jul 19, 2008 2:41:17 GMT -5
^Er, just because two people have had sex doesn't mean that they are lovers for life. Within what's left of canon, of course, but breaking up a couple via fic isn't very hard... ATLA actually kind of makes it easy.
I have a fondness for Toko and was very glad for the scene in the recent episode- I actually wish Toph got her own 'Zuko field trip' episode which had them both looking for Iroh/White Lotus, but this was nice too. In terms of romance for Zuko, Toph wouldn't be my first choice, but that's more personal prefference then anything else.
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Ana
Metalbending Cop
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Post by Ana on Jul 19, 2008 8:59:29 GMT -5
I would drop maiko for Toko, becaus Toko trumphs Maiko for the reasons listed above, and they contradict. Nah, I still think Maiko is the best Zuko ship and you can multi-ship. Not so much in this poll but still. Anyway, the Zuko and Toph bonding in EIP did warm me up to Toko. Before their interactions didn’t do anything for me but that talk was very sweet and exactly what Zuko needed at the time. I don’t know if I like it as a future romance but I can see why other people do now.
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Zenjamin
Ba Sing Se Zuko
Toko supporter
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Post by Zenjamin on Jul 19, 2008 15:52:57 GMT -5
You can multiship in this poll. up to three times.
Anyways, I would love to argue have a friendly debate with you about Maiko vs Toko. (both of which would beat out zutara IMO)
What does Zuko bring to the table to help Mai that no other guy could? What does Mai bring to the table to help Zuko that no other girl could.
My Opinion on Maiko is that is is a neutral relationship. Neither personality really benifits the other that much, but they dont conflict either. So both are just free to relax and be happy. But it lacks the depth and synergy that (future)Toko would have IMO.
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