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Post by fuego on Aug 23, 2008 13:35:36 GMT -5
Guess we know who Obama is running mate is and I think it a good choice, but could be better and I'm not saying that just because of Clinton. It nice choice because he media savy...something that right currently not noticed but could be a double edge sword. Still I think this will combat the foreign affairs issue since currently, Barack is strong on domestic issue. Get ready for shipping of Baroe & or Obaiden depending on guideline to shipping work
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Post by o8jedi on Aug 23, 2008 15:44:00 GMT -5
"Obaiden" has a nice ring to it. In any case, I think Sen. Biden makes an excellent compliment to Obama. He's got experience, chairs the foreign policy committee, and doesn't come across as an elitist, which will be key in trying to secure more blue-collar votes. Plus the fact that he's got the gift of gab will be an asset. Now we wait until after the Democratic Convention for McCain's running mate. My only suggestion is that he does not pick Mitt Romney. He has got to be the single most uncharismatic person I've ever seen.
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Post by beautyfr.pain on Aug 23, 2008 16:12:56 GMT -5
I'm warming up to this Biden guy from the little research I've done since I found out today at 2 AM. My mom says he has military knowledge, something that Obama lacks in. She also mentioned that he was involved with US and the Georgia/Russia conflict, but idk what she meant. I thought it was odd that he picked someone basically unknown to the average person, but Obama was virtually unknown to the average person at one point, but with great marketing, look where he is now. And as for the Biden-not-being an elitist, my sister put it as: "The undecided Midwest will love him b/c he can pull up in a pickup truck and not look silly." That made me laugh.
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Post by o8jedi on Aug 23, 2008 17:51:03 GMT -5
And as for the Biden-not-being an elitist, my sister put it as: "The undecided Midwest will love him b/c he can pull up in a pickup truck and not look silly." That made me laugh. To quote Homer Simpson, "It's funny because it's true."
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Post by asian malaysian on Aug 25, 2008 19:59:46 GMT -5
^ Joe Biden's been in Delaware almost his entire life. He was Senator at the age of 30. You think he can pull off a pick up truck schtick in the Midwest? Im not sure he could pull it off in Delaware.
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Post by historyman12 on Aug 25, 2008 20:04:18 GMT -5
This all ignoring Biden's comments on Obama, which surely would have been called racist had it come from McCain? "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American, who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy, I mean, that's a storybook, man." And this on Indian Americans in Delaware: "I've had a great relationship. In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking. Though to be fair to Biden, he did say this later: "It was meant as a compliment." So, that is forgivable.
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Post by username on Aug 29, 2008 18:21:09 GMT -5
So would McCain keep using his only criticism of Obama after choosing a VP with two years of experience as governor of Alaska?
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Post by chaobender482 on Aug 30, 2008 0:04:34 GMT -5
So would McCain keep using his only criticism of Obama after choosing a VP with two years of experience as governor of Alaska? Well what Obama chose pretty much made more sense to my views on it, but just because McCain had to choose a woman does not mean he will get more votes, it is just trying to keep in the running, but again it is not easy to deal with this election season.
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Post by historyman12 on Aug 30, 2008 9:57:33 GMT -5
So would McCain keep using his only criticism of Obama after choosing a VP with two years of experience as governor of Alaska? Why can I not shake the feeling that the presidency and vice presidency are different?
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Post by username on Aug 30, 2008 14:21:08 GMT -5
Doesn't matter. The thing is, he chose a VP who's basically everything he criticizes about Obama.
I don't know if he's trying to get some Hillary voters with this or what. The reason people were for Hillary was because they liked her stance and/or they liked her experience. Palin has neither of Hillary's traits. And I don't see how he could hope for getting feminists with a "LOL I CHOSE SUMONE WIF A VAGINA THAT MEANS YOU WANT TO VOTE FOR ME NAO RITE?"
Also the idea of her being for Obama style change is ridiculous. The only mavericky thing she did was raise taxes for some oil companies, and that wouldn't even matter when she's VP because that undercuts McCain's stance.
The thing is, she's even more style over substance than Obama. So it's bizarre for McCain to pick her, when that's his main attack on Obama.
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Post by historyman12 on Aug 30, 2008 14:37:42 GMT -5
Doesn't matter. The thing is, he chose a VP who's basically everything he criticizes about Obama. Except for one tiny thing: the Presidency is more important than the Vice Presidency. Experience is required more for the presidency. Well, these people are fringe morons, but there are some people who actually only supported Hillary because she was a woman. Again these people may lack in the brain department, but this is politics. Most everyone lacks brains there. I'll admit this now: She's the polar opposite of Obama. Not at all like him. But it was slightly maverick-ish of McCain to do something like this. Yeah...not really. She's gotten about ten times more done in her two years, than Obama did. She has a good deal of substance. She also has executive experience, which is what the presidency is is. Not legislative, executive. So, one could make the argument (though I wouldn't) that she is actually had the most prevalent experience.
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Post by CountessRachel on Aug 30, 2008 22:58:03 GMT -5
The campaign against McCain was "McCain, more of the same." I feel he was pressured by his campaign advisors to pick Paulin. Especially when there were SO many other, better qualified candidates for the VP office. They're trying to mimic Obama's image in the sense of a young, up-and-coming, photogenic politician with charisma and ideals. Republicans realized that McCain just didn't have that and by picking another middle-aged white guy was gonna make his campaign seem even more stale.
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Post by username on Sept 3, 2008 14:27:45 GMT -5
Seeing as she's been governor of Alaska for 20 months, no one should try and make that argument. Of course, people are making that argument anyway because people love trying to trick themselves into thinking they're right.
What does Palin bring to the table for McCain? Her "lololchange" stance?
Biden at least brought his experience and military knowledge to McCain. Palin has nothing to offer other than some blue collar votes.
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Post by historyman12 on Sept 3, 2008 15:10:22 GMT -5
Seeing as she's been governor of Alaska for 20 months, no one should try and make that argument. Of course, people are making that argument anyway because people love trying to trick themselves into thinking they're right. As opposed to Obama who's been an Illinois senator for twenty months? What does Palin bring to the table for McCain? Her "lololchange" stance? You mean Biden brought his experience to Obama right? I'll assume that: Biden has voted on the opposite side of most major bills that are now seen as good. In other words, he was wrong on several issues. He was for Detente in the '80s, voted against the Persian Gulf War, and for the Iraq War.
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Post by o8jedi on Sept 3, 2008 15:34:52 GMT -5
As opposed to Obama who's been an Illinois senator for twenty months? Obama served in the Illinois Senate from 1997-2004. Even with campaigns, he still served more than 20 months. As for Sarah Palin, all I have to say is that came out of right field. It struck me initially that it was an act of desperation on McCain's part, but hopefully she'll convince me otherwise when she speaks tonight at the RNC. It won't change how I'm going to vote, but it should help put some parts of my mind to rest.
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