Kataang Sky Castle XXXIX

[mindbender18]

if you want to you can.

Its no biggy as long as it gets made.

Okay, i'll make it

[Power]

ilovetaang03 said:

i dont like kataang that much
katara is to old for him

Going to say this once and rest my humble case:


The age thing with Kataang is pretty much null and void. The relationship is not fully official, but it is with assurance I can say that she feels the same way about him as he does her. There is no more denying that, it can be debated against till the poor dead horse is dismembered xD, but the fact remains that it won't change.

12 and 14 makes not much difference in the Avatarverse, a totally different arrangement from our society. We have to look at it that way, regardless of our personal feelings. There is irrefutable proof at this point that the both of them have affection for one another and it is steadily growing episode by episode. No amount of debating against it will ever change that notion.

Only the creators know the fate of Kataang, and from the looks of it its full steam ahead!

xD

[thelastavatar]

it's funny how people can willingly accept a freshman girl/senior guy relationship in real life, but when it comes to Avatar, all of a sudden it's taboo and impossible to do. What's up with that? Hypocrisy anyone?

The only person that comes closer than Katara to Aang's age is Toph. From what I can remember in Bitter Work, Toph's outlook on life was shown through the way she initially taught Aang. We all know how that went: Aang got discouraged, where he felt "uncomfortable". Katara had to get Toph to change her entire teaching style in order to connect with Aang. I think this proves that Katara and Aang had already clicked subconciously, seeing how so far Aang has only responded positively to Katara's teaching methods. Neither Pakku nor Toph could at first get Aang to learn as well as Katara.

As Power mentioned above, Katara and Aang's connection has gotten deeper and more meaningful, both to us as an audience as well as each other. Though Toph and Aang are friends, they haven't reached that strong of a connection yet. What would be the point of Aang and Katara getting closer to each other for 2 and a half seasons, just for M+B to just separate them all of a sudden?

ilovetaang, the kiss was not random, it was Aang's way of showing how he felt about Katara to her, and I personally think there was no better way for Aang to show the true strength of his feelings to Katara. After all, we saw how he can't seem to spit the words out at the right moment. He, too, has an issue with public speaking, and he keeps getting interrupted when he does work up the courage to try. Seeing as actions speak louder than words, and Aang's belief that "words won't solve anything; only action will", that kiss said everything he wanted to say: he loved her with every part of his mind, heart, and soul, and that he wanted her to know, in case he did not come back from his fight.

Power, you said it: it looks like Kataang is about to come into full bloom from where we are left off.

Edit: Congrats all Kataangers! In the thread/poll of "Kataang vs Zutara" we now have over 50% of the votes! Way to show your support!

[Zenjamin]

about the whole age thing:
please dont feed the trolls.

about the kataang vs zutara thead:
that thread is VERRY old. many zutarans have defected to our side since then. if that thread was remade, kataang support would be much more prominent

[Solvabibble]

^IDK, many of us have accepted imminence of Kataang happening, but will never switch sides no matter what.

I'm also tired of the whole "Aang's too young for her" argument Really people, 2 years difference between Kataang, 2-3 years difference for Zutara. Not a valid argument.

[pg15]

And that kiss was hardly "making out". Geez.

[frozenwind141]

The only thing that could come close to making out was the kiss in 3.09, that was pretty blooming passionate seeing as Katara almost jumps on him xD

But yes, the real kiss was not making out. I doubt were going to get making out this is Y7, we can naked!Katara listening to Sokka and Toph, but we can't have two people making out. Oh wellz.

[Zenjamin]

i dont know, it may have not been a verry long kiss, but i think we might have gotten some tongue action.
aang kissed her when her mouth was open, and when aang pulled away, her lips were still open and wanting.


lips open


still open
(resists urge to point out what he pointed out in a certain other site)


still open

[liz6363]

@zenjamin: There may have been very very minimal tongue action but I doubt it... her mouth is hardly open at the end of the kiss. And I'm pretty sure I know what you were going to point out with that second screenshot *shudders*
@frozen: Well we definetly have seen some maikouts... So maybe we'll get a Kataang makeout before the end of the show!

[Aanglover]

liz6363 said:

@zenjamin: There may have been very very minimal tongue action but I doubt it... her mouth is hardly open at the end of the kiss. And I'm pretty sure I know what you were going to point out with that second screenshot *shudders*
@frozen: Well we definetly have seen some maikouts... So maybe we'll get a Kataang makeout before the end of the show!

yeah... maikouts.. lol
lets hope so. *crosses fingers 4 kataang* ;D

[Zenjamin]

i agree that the tongue action was minimal, but in the future they at least gotta match what happened in aang's dream.
and that was way steamy for avatar, i mean, just look at katara's upper teeth. shes nibbling on aang's lower lip for gods sake.




Spoilers removed

(i wasnt sure if i should have used spoiler tags or not, but better safe then sorry, has to do with 313 episode title)

[Paraiba Ocean]

benjamin said:

still open

You're overanalyzing the screencaps, to put it bluntly.

If we sit here and just look at screencaps and transition shots all day and say "Well, in that one, *insert character* looks like *blah blah blah*" and "it looks like he/she/it felt had this on her mind" then we're going to basically miss the MAIN POINT of the entire scene all in the name of shipping and not even wait for M&B to perhaps explain to us wtf he/she/it was thinking.

[frozenwind141]

The only thing that screencap tells us is that Katara wanted that kiss to continue >}

Anyway, yer, does it really matter? They kissed, woop te do, lets have a kiss where:
A) It's not a dream.
B) The lights aren't off.
C) They're not about to possibly die.

If it doesn't fufill any of those, then I'll be as happy as I can be.

[iLurk]

benjamin said:

that essay was way too long for me ATM, but im sure its great.


anyways, we are approaching the magic 100.

whoever makes the new thread, i suggest making some new additions to the first post now that kataang has developed so much.
some of the more recent and better fan fics such as this

I also highly suggest linking this essay, or at least the segment

benjamin said:

Interviewer from this interview after "The Crossroads of Destiny:
"I have never seen shipping take on a life of its own as I have with the fans of Avatar. What do you think of all this?"

Bryan Konietzko:
"I think it's important to note one thing I have heard from the internet is that some fans have the idea we've put shipping into the show because they've asked for it...requested it. This is totally not the case. Mike and I like to do melodrama stuff and we wanted that in there. Not that it's all cheesy, but we wanted that from the get-go. Five years ago when we were developing this.

Mike DiMartino adds:
Yeah, Aang/Katara, that romance. Some stuff developed along the way, and we're glad some fans are more receptive to that element of the show, but it was in the DNA of the thing from the start.

i also would really like to see the the Fox Bandit's page linked.
(she has a new one BTW)

I love the stuff Fox posts. verry fair.

[Zenjamin]

paraibaocean said:

You're overanalyzing the screencaps, to put it bluntly.

If we sit here and just look at screencaps and transition shots all day and say "Well, in that one, *insert character* looks like *blah blah blah*" and "it looks like he/she/it felt had this on her mind" then we're going to basically miss the MAIN POINT of the entire scene all in the name of shipping and not even wait for M&B to perhaps explain to us wtf he/she/it was thinking.

Ok, so lets see, HOW do M&B typically commiunicate with their viewers about with whats going on in the show?
humm... could it possibly be what is actually IN the show? the screen caps? the romantic music? the body language, the context of war and love?

no, that couldnt possibly be it.


Im sorry, but im so sick of Zutarans telling me that me using screen caps for logic is somehow wrong.

screencaps are taken directly from the show... they are as much of the show that we can put on the forum.
if I could put up a mini clip, I would, but this forum doesnt have that function.

what would you suggest instead? that we over-analyze discussions within a self-perpetuating fandom?
that we forsake and ignore what the actual show gives us, and instead provide literary theams outside of the show for why what we want to happen will happen?

give me a break. Katara's body language was put in there for a reason. M&B are not going to spend their time making a youtube video explaining what they have already made evident in the show. at least not yet.


when the series is done, M&B will do voice-over commentary for DOBS, and I will send you 50$ if they do not mention kataras body language as being receptive during the kiss.

but until then, I am going to use what actually exists in the show, instead of inflating what is in the fandom for my arguments, thank you very much.



EDIT:
Im sorry if i sounded rude there Paraiba, that little rant was not brought on by just you.
sorta a "straw that broke the camel's back" kinda think.



EDIT2:
hey guys, i made a recent version of the kataang vs zutara thread. because the old one was... old, and it ate one of my posts and have a fear of the possibility of it eating a really long post of mine.

So go vote.