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Post by thelastavatar on Nov 28, 2006 1:50:19 GMT -5
yes definitely. balance of discipline, physical shape, mental shape, and emotions are just as impt. in an Avatar as it is to keep the world in balance
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Post by 11momo13 on Nov 28, 2006 2:57:45 GMT -5
*yawns*
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Post by risanf on Nov 28, 2006 9:42:47 GMT -5
Well, it's been awhile since I've posted, and I have to say I'm pretty upset with the recent turn of events. These recent trailers seem to be typical; with the kind, good-hearted guy being forced to give up everything, and the moody, harsh badass being pampered by the main girl. Must we always reward the almighty combo of attitude and athestics, while infantising the ones with the honest hearts? I wonder if anyone's going to even care about Aang's pain, or if they're just going to say: well, at least that twerp's out of the running, go Zutara! -_-;
It almost looks like Avatar is going down the "no attachments for Aang" route (which I hate; that's why I turned away from a lot of Star Wars stuff), but there's one issue with that. It's the fact that, up until now, Avatar has been all about portraying attachments and family in a positive light. Aang is really big on emotional connections, and it serves him well as much as it hinders him. Who can tell what direction the Avatar writers and crew are really headed in; we may all be worrying for nothing.
I seem to remember that, when the information about Zuko and Katara in the cave came out, that the creators said romance wasn't going to be involved. Have you notices that little tidbit has been completely ignored by, like, everyone? Zutarians have ignored it, Kataangs have ignored it, even I have ignored it. Everybody thinks it could be some lead in to future Zutara antic.
P.S.: Don't take my comments to mean that I think Zuko's all bad and worthless as a character. It's just some of the fandom stuff revolving around Zuko that gets to me; though as far as animated badasses go, girls could do a lot worse.
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Post by Ana on Nov 28, 2006 10:09:05 GMT -5
Good day risnaf! As for the recent events: I’m not upset or worried at all. I don’t’ see Zutara playing out in canon because they have been building up Kataang so much. I mean, if they go the Zutara route where would all that buildup go? It can’t just go nowhere, everything is there for a reason.
If anything, I'd say that the Guru's advice for Aang to let go of Katara just makes it better for Kataang; it's at its climax - blooming love, huge obstacle, love conquers all, and all the cheesy stuff. I think Growly brought up a good point about “no attachments for Aang route” yesterday. Okay, so let’s say he learns to give up his love for Katara, masters the Avatar State, and the gets to defeat the Fire Lord ahead of schedule. Exciting, huh? I don’t think they will doing “no attachments for Aang” route because as explained above that would rather boring, I don’t think he can keep his “promise to let go” a whole season, and as you and others have said, it would mess up his character a bit.
Personally, I remembered that Mike and Bryan said the cave thing wasn’t going to be romantic. But when I told people they went “Jeez, Ana they meant it wasn’t going to be like “The Cave of Two Lovers”! It could still be romantic!”
Re: P.S. I often feel that way about Zuko. Fandom has made him a bit less likeable for me, same goes for Zutara.
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Post by frozenwind141 on Nov 28, 2006 11:14:48 GMT -5
Well, it's been awhile since I've posted, and I have to say I'm pretty upset with the recent turn of events. These recent trailers seem to be typical; with the kind, good-hearted guy being forced to give up everything, and the moody, harsh badass being pampered by the main girl. Must we always reward the almighty combo of attitude and athestics, while infantising the ones with the honest hearts? I wonder if anyone's going to even care about Aang's pain, or if they're just going to say: well, at least that twerp's out of the running, go Zutara! -_-; It almost looks like Avatar is going down the "no attachments for Aang" route (which I hate; that's why I turned away from a lot of Star Wars stuff), but there's one issue with that. It's the fact that, up until now, Avatar has been all about portraying attachments and family in a positive light. Aang is really big on emotional connections, and it serves him well as much as it hinders him. Who can tell what direction the Avatar writers and crew are really headed in; we may all be worrying for nothing. I seem to remember that, when the information about Zuko and Katara in the cave came out, that the creators said romance wasn't going to be involved. Have you notices that little tidbit has been completely ignored by, like, everyone? Zutarians have ignored it, Kataangs have ignored it, even I have ignored it. Everybody thinks it could be some lead in to future Zutara antic. P.S.: Don't take my comments to mean that I think Zuko's all bad and worthless as a character. It's just some of the fandom stuff revolving around Zuko that gets to me; though as far as animated badasses go, girls could do a lot worse. I completly agree with that. That one of the things that bugged me was that most people completly forgot that it is NOT going to be romantic.
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Post by Rainyaqua on Nov 28, 2006 11:23:13 GMT -5
For me, even though I know that the creators said it, I'm still excited for it. If anything romantic could/did happen, I wouldn't want it to be like a kiss or anything. I'm happy that they will be having their first positive reaction to each other, and then whatever happens in the third season wiith them, whether romantic, a crush, or friendship, I'll be really happy.
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Post by frozenwind141 on Nov 28, 2006 11:31:54 GMT -5
For me, even though I know that the creators said it, I'm still excited for it. If anything romantic could/did happen, I wouldn't want it to be like a kiss or anything. I'm happy that they will be having their first positive reaction to each other, and then whatever happens in the third season wiith them, whether romantic, a crush, or friendship, I'll be really happy. I'm interested to see what Aang's reaction would be to it.
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Post by Growly on Nov 28, 2006 11:45:21 GMT -5
I'm just annoyed that such a big deal has been made out of the scene - and especially at the people who are saying that Kataang is dead now. Heck, even if they did go ahead and make Zutara canon, that would not make me a Zutara shipper - not by a long shot.
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Post by frozenwind141 on Nov 28, 2006 11:50:48 GMT -5
I'm just annoyed that such a big deal has been made out of the scene - and especially at the people who are saying that Kataang is dead now. Heck, even if they did go ahead and make Zutara canon, that would not make me a Zutara shipper - not by a long shot. I don't think I could ever even consider being a Zutara shipper, unless I had one of the scary Dai Li brainwashing things. Besides the fandom has completly blown this commercial out of proportion, Zutara is not going to magicly become canon in the season finale, that would just being completely random.
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Post by Power on Nov 28, 2006 11:56:15 GMT -5
Hey Guys!
I see what you all have posted in the last few post and I see you guys are heavily annoyed over what is being blown out of proportion.
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Post by Growly on Nov 28, 2006 11:57:47 GMT -5
That's sort of the point I made once. I asked the Zutarians if they would give up Zutara if Kataang (or something else) became canon. I almost got my tail stuffed down my throat for doing so, but my goal was not to seem gloating. The discussion involved people lamenting about potential Kataang canon. My viewpoint is that anyone who gives up their ship just because it stops being popular or something else becomes canon is not a very dedicated shipper.
Kataang is my ship and if something happens and it goes down, I'm not going to jump over to Zutara. I'll go down with my ship.
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Post by frozenwind141 on Nov 28, 2006 12:02:41 GMT -5
That's sort of the point I made once. I asked the Zutarians if they would give up Zutara if Kataang (or something else) became canon. I almost got my tail stuffed down my throat for doing so, but my goal was not to seem gloating. The discussion involved people lamenting about potential Kataang canon. My viewpoint is that anyone who gives up their ship just because it stops being popular or something else becomes canon is not a very dedicated shipper. Kataang is my ship and if something happens and it goes down, I'm not going to jump over to Zutara. I'll go down with my ship. If somehow did actually say 'Yes.' then it would show that they were just going with the crowd and not actually with what they liked. Sad really.
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Post by Power on Nov 28, 2006 12:06:43 GMT -5
That's sort of the point I made once. I asked the Zutarians if they would give up Zutara if Kataang (or something else) became canon. I almost got my tail stuffed down my throat for doing so, but my goal was not to seem gloating. The discussion involved people lamenting about potential Kataang canon. My viewpoint is that anyone who gives up their ship just because it stops being popular or something else becomes canon is not a very dedicated shipper. Kataang is my ship and if something happens and it goes down, I'm not going to jump over to Zutara. I'll go down with my ship. and so will I... im not saying anything is concrete...but if Kataang is what the creators have been building up for two seasons, i dont think they would throw it away just like that, too much money and time was spent.
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Post by Rainyaqua on Nov 28, 2006 12:09:55 GMT -5
I really wouldn't like it if it did just happen in the season finale (like they kissed, said they love each other,etc), I don't want it to be random, like I would rather it start in season three if it did, and we actually see it happen in the season finale or the last episode.
I don't really understand why people usually go with the crowd, I guess they wanna be with the bigger ship, or wanna show that their ship is right, but it doesn't seem right to me.
I don't really count any ship out, sometimes things happen the way you think, but sometimes it doesn't. So I don't really think much about if they spent alot cash on it, etc.
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Post by frozenwind141 on Nov 28, 2006 12:10:36 GMT -5
My answer to that quesiton is always, there building up to something.
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