trustno1
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Post by trustno1 on Sept 7, 2006 11:33:41 GMT -5
That's an interesting post you got there and you are probably right about the fact that opposites would be destructive in the classical four elements theory alone, but you forget that most people are combining it with YingYang philosophy, which was mentioned pretty often throughout the series, thus taking the normaly destructive aspect from them as Ying and Yang support each other, because of their diffrences. Just like Tui and La you metioned back there, although considering their supernatural nature it would be pretty much impossible to find somebody, who is as perfect for Tui as La.^^ So, then any pairing could work and support each other because like we have all said before any pairing can be applied to Yin and Yang. But enough of Yin and Yang. So...is it time to make a new war room? Lol, never thought I will go back to Kataang topic so soon, but it's fun to hear your perspective on the whole shipping thing^^. Back to what you said: In my opinion the ying yang concept (if you wanna use it as an evidance) can be applied only on the basic nature of the elements as the show has only stated on the concept of "opposite elements" (like the discussion between Katara and Aang during their training) and not on the characters themself as we already seen couples, that are very alike like Sokka/Suki. So it would basicly only support shipps of benders, who are connected to fire/water and earth/air. Although I'm not count it as a big evidance, it's a interesting idea as it connects the shipps of Zutara and Taang to a philosophical concept of the world the show takes place. But I wouldn't overuse it to much and it isn't the reason why ship either.
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trustno1
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Post by trustno1 on Sept 7, 2006 11:37:02 GMT -5
No matter how much i think about zutara... i can never really underatand it or see that its gonna happen...00; i just... dont like it. Not liking it is okay with me. There are no real reason why any of them wouldn't happen and no one can really mark either Kataang or Zutara as impossible. The show isn't really over yet and the creators always managed to surprice me yet somehow.
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Post by Amira on Sept 7, 2006 11:41:28 GMT -5
So, then any pairing could work and support each other because like we have all said before any pairing can be applied to Yin and Yang. But enough of Yin and Yang. So...is it time to make a new war room? Lol, never thought I will go back to Kataang topic so soon, but it's fun to hear your perspective on the whole shipping thing^^. Back to what you said: In my opinion the ying yang concept (if you wanna use it as an evidance) can be applied only on the basic nature of the elements as the show has only stated on the concept of "opposite elements" (like the discussion between Katara and Aang during their training) and not on the characters themself as we already seen couples, that are very alike like Sokka/Suki. So it would basicly only support shipps of benders, who are connected to fire/water and earth/air. Although I'm not count it as a big evidance, it's a interesting idea as it connects the shipps of Zutara and Taang to a philosophical concept of the world the show takes place. But I wouldn't overuse it to much and it isn't the reason why ship either. Fine. But 73,000 people have explained how yin/yang is not related only to the elements. In fact it is shown in other ways beyond the elements. That's the beauty of Avatar, you have to expand your thinking. And actually, relationships based on elements doesn't really bode well for the characters. Toph and Aang are barely friends and neither seems to be well suited as a romantic match. Katara and Zuko aren't either. They conflict, possibly too much. You sticking to the elements is like me saying well I have light colored hair and my neighbor has black hair so because we are opposites and a yin/yang we must be a match (when in actuality my neighbor and I don't get along and would be horrible as a romantic pair). You have to think about the characters and their personalities. That's what's going to make a successful relationship. Not some business with elements. And quit multiple posting. Combine posts.
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Post by frozenwind141 on Sept 7, 2006 11:54:04 GMT -5
Good point Amira *karma* if opposites really did attract in the real world the I think the divorce rate would be up alot. But that just my opinion ;D
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Post by Mashnii on Sept 7, 2006 11:55:50 GMT -5
Nice post, Amira. *claps*
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Kataang101
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Post by Kataang101 on Sept 7, 2006 11:57:52 GMT -5
Those were really thought out posts *karma and cookies*
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Post by theweasleyboys on Sept 7, 2006 12:00:54 GMT -5
"Speaking of cookies, I'm unfortunately very late for my next delivery of chocolate chip installments."
*The Hobo blushed a little as she took a box out of her janitor's carriage, inside which were some cookies that had remarkably stayed fresh in spite of their lateness.*
"I hope I'm just in time...will you be making a new war room soon?"
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Kataang101
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Post by Kataang101 on Sept 7, 2006 12:02:09 GMT -5
can anyone be making war rooms?
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Post by theweasleyboys on Sept 7, 2006 12:03:05 GMT -5
"I believe so...I've started a few of them when I've had the time, and come up with interesting results."
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Ana
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Post by Ana on Sept 7, 2006 12:09:34 GMT -5
So it would basicly only support shipps of benders, who are connected to fire/water and earth/air. So, Yin and Yang also supports: Katara/Azula, Gyatso/Toph, General Fong/Aang, Zuko/Pakku, Haru/Malu, etc. etc. Again Yin and Yang can be applied to any pairing but it only really helps Tui/La. And with that I'm done debating Yin and Yang.
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trustno1
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Post by trustno1 on Sept 7, 2006 12:12:20 GMT -5
Lol, never thought I will go back to Kataang topic so soon, but it's fun to hear your perspective on the whole shipping thing^^. Back to what you said: In my opinion the ying yang concept (if you wanna use it as an evidance) can be applied only on the basic nature of the elements as the show has only stated on the concept of "opposite elements" (like the discussion between Katara and Aang during their training) and not on the characters themself as we already seen couples, that are very alike like Sokka/Suki. So it would basicly only support shipps of benders, who are connected to fire/water and earth/air. Although I'm not count it as a big evidance, it's a interesting idea as it connects the shipps of Zutara and Taang to a philosophical concept of the world the show takes place. But I wouldn't overuse it to much and it isn't the reason why ship either. Fine. But 73,000 people have explained how yin/yang is not related only to the elements. In fact it is shown in other ways beyond the elements. That's the beauty of Avatar, you have to expand your thinking. And actually, relationships based on elements doesn't really bode well for the characters. Toph and Aang are barely friends and neither seems to be well suited as a romantic match. Katara and Zuko aren't either. They conflict, possibly too much. You sticking to the elements is like me saying well I have light colored hair and my neighbor has black hair so because we are opposites and a yin/yang we must be a match (when in actuality my neighbor and I don't get along and would be horrible as a romantic pair). You have to think about the characters and their personalities. That's what's going to make a successful relationship. Not some business with elements. And quit multiple posting. Combine posts. I wasn't defending the overall concept of it, but explaining it how I think most of the people, who support Zutara possibly see it. I didn't really get it, that the yingyang concept was used on something else then the elements themself, except maybe on how one should behave while bending (which is more connected to the fighting style, then the personality itself), which would support Taang or Zutara anyway (as seen in the episode "Bitter Work"). The basic idea of YingYang is, that two diffrent elements/characters (if you insist) are supporting each other and interdepend on each other, because of their diffrences. But I'm not a big fan of the element thing as an evidance anyway, so I stop right here. If you think that a relationship of Taang and Zutara won't be succesfull, then it's your opinion and I can't do anything about that. I think almost the same way of Kataang, as the relationship wouldn't make Katara and Aang develop as persons as much as Zutara and Taang would do. Sry for doubleposting, I was concerned the post would get to long and too confusing.
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Post by Amira on Sept 7, 2006 12:18:50 GMT -5
It has nothing to do with bending. Nothing at all.
The relationships these characters form are going to be because of who they are. Katara is more serious and supportive. Aang is more carefree. Yet get them together and they make a cohesive team. Aang would willingly give up his life for Katara. She would do the same, she was willing to leave all she knew to join him on his mission.
See. That's how the relationships work.
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Khil01
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Post by Khil01 on Sept 7, 2006 12:21:12 GMT -5
hey, whats going on?
karma for you amira.
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Post by theweasleyboys on Sept 7, 2006 12:21:59 GMT -5
Erm...isn't it time for you guys to make a new war room...? It's over 50 pages...
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Post by frozenwind141 on Sept 7, 2006 12:23:49 GMT -5
There a good discussion going on at the moment, that what happening
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