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Post by Sir Tukkun on Apr 6, 2008 16:49:56 GMT -5
I was reviewing old avatar ep's and a question that came up was "Who is stronger, Avatar Roku or Aang?"
The reason why this question came up was in the ep "avatar and the fire lord" Avatar Roku fought a volcano which led to his unfortunate end. At that time Roku was a fully realized Avatar. In "The fortune teller" ep, Aang also fought a volcano and beat it, alone. At that time, Aang only knew air bending. Why is it that Avatar Roku died and Aang survived?
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Post by Azula's Flames on Apr 6, 2008 17:19:00 GMT -5
Through the magic of plotholes
Or maybe because the volcano Aang fought was less ferosious than Roku's it didnt have the toxic fumes which was really what killed him
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Post by nymphadora on Apr 6, 2008 17:24:12 GMT -5
I don't even know why Roku bothered to fight the volcano. The only thing I thought of was to save his village, but when he realized that he couldn't, why didn't he fly awway on Fang?
Aang and Roku had very different tactics. Roku fought it head on, while Aang let it erupt, and just stopped the lava. It goes back to Aang being a natural Airbender and Roku a Firebender. I think Fire and Earth are more straightforward, while Air and Water are more evasive and defensive. Roku and Aang have different natural instincts being from different nations. Aang would have failed if he tried to fight the volcano at the top, and Roku probably could have succeeded if he tried to stop the lava flow lower down.
So, Aang is not stronger than Roku - it was his Airbender instinct that stopped the volcano from destroying the village.
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Post by Sir Tukkun on Apr 6, 2008 17:29:54 GMT -5
This is @ eowyn
Well naturally, all volcano's have toxic gases. The toxic gases are the chemicals within a the earth escaping by means of volcano. In fact, Depending on the amount of gas that is held inside of a volcano makes the eruption as bug as it is. The more gas the bigger the eruption. And Aang's volcano erupted bigger then Roku's. Yeah you have a point about the gases killing Roku but why is it that Roku's attempts barley did anything. Aang just did one giant airblast and that was it.
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Post by mentalmishaps on Apr 6, 2008 18:14:27 GMT -5
Aang was: *Fighting a volcano at the bottom of a hill, trying to stop the lava flow, not stop the volcano itself. He created a giant wall out of cooled lava and let the rest flow behind it. *Fighting a smaller volcano that only errupted twice. *Fighting a volcano that already has a trench dug around it to stop a lot of the lava.
Roku was: *Ancient. Wasn't he at least eighty there? *Trying to stop the lava as it errupted, in the middle of a huge volacano (we can also assume that it's erruption was what created the island in the first place) *In the middle of toxic gas.
Also, I completely agree with Nymphadora about tactics (and about Roku being a tad bit stupid)
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Post by Sir Tukkun on Apr 6, 2008 18:22:13 GMT -5
Yes, the volcano did create the island. That is how islands are created. Roku also dug a gigantic trench in like two seconds, and it was much bigger then the one aang had. You are right about Roku is stupid. Why did he jump on the edge of the volcano. He earth bended another opening so that the lava can go through the other way which was smart but he should of just flown up on Fang then did a giant air blast to seal the volcano. It all comes do to the tactics of your nation. So a new question arrives, Which nation is stronger?
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Post by mentalmishaps on Apr 6, 2008 18:24:38 GMT -5
None of the nations are stronger. Each has its own strengths and weaknesses.
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Post by Sir Tukkun on Apr 6, 2008 18:39:32 GMT -5
agreed. Thank you for your time. Now its time for me to...
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Post by nandireya on Apr 7, 2008 0:00:07 GMT -5
When we learned more about him, I got the impression that Roku was something of a late bloomer (which I also think runs in the family ). He was very awkward in his early years and it took him 12 years to do what Aang's basically done in 6 months. That said...Aang wasn't actually ON the volcano like Roku was...Roku was far more in the thick of things. Aang was re-directing the lava away from the village...Roku seemed to be actually trying to stop it. Aang had one volcano to contend with...Roku ended up with two. But yeah...the wiser thing for Roku to do would have been to get the heck out of there...but that wouldn't have served the plot.
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Post by Azula's Flames on Apr 7, 2008 1:08:48 GMT -5
Yea Roku had to die even if it made him look like an idiot and they couldnt let Sozin beat him directly in a fight because then that would take away from the awesomeness of the avatar.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2008 3:03:43 GMT -5
I think Avatar Roku is stronger. Just cause he died doesn't make him less stronger he just got unlucky. Plus he was already old.
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Post by Azula's Flames on Apr 7, 2008 3:13:18 GMT -5
Neither is stronger it isnt fair to judge them aang is still only 12/13 and Roku got years and years of training and died an oldman
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Post by admirality on Apr 7, 2008 12:02:39 GMT -5
I'd say when fully realised all the avatars are the same strength overall... Pherhaps they have different strengths but power wise I'd say they r all the same...
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Post by Dutchy on Apr 15, 2008 14:47:06 GMT -5
Roku was better I guess because Aang hasn't learn to master all four elements in fact I think Roku's airbending might even be better than Aangs
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Post by Draco Argenteus on Apr 16, 2008 0:44:58 GMT -5
Roku was old when he "faught" that volcano. Aang is not. Also, I'm not sure if it's that great of a comparison because of the large differences in the situations. I never even thought about who was stronger, actually. Also, I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who thought Roku staying on the island to save an empty village was dumb. He should have gotten his butt outta there
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