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Katara
Jul 14, 2008 16:55:10 GMT -5
Post by Azula's Flames on Jul 14, 2008 16:55:10 GMT -5
Well I don't think the little amount of training is her fault. She had no one to teach her before the series and not until the end of season 1. They couldnt have a beginner waterbender following Aang around or she would have been killed very quickly. She progressed so quickly because it was a writing necessity. And really I think the only bender who had a really difficult time mastering his art was Zuko.... She's a downright prodigy like Azula and Toph
No one says any thing about Sokka mastering the sword in 2 days
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Katara
Jul 14, 2008 17:54:26 GMT -5
Post by ƒelinoel on Jul 14, 2008 17:54:26 GMT -5
I dislike Katara because she is to powerful. Azula, Ty lee, Mai, and Toph are all insanly awesome fighters. Why is that? Because they spent years working to perfect there skill. Then Katara shows up and masters it in what a month or two? Not to mention she was not even thought how to blood bend. And she mannaged to master that in the first ten minutes she found out about it. Why Hamma practiced it for months. I get she is suppost to be good. But she is just way to powerful! And we don't need any more powerful girls on the show... Considering there are no just okay girl fighters. I would like Katara a lot better if she wasn't as powerful... Though I would still hate her because I find her insanly annoying. She is to motherly, she crys A LOT, she holds way to many gruges, and I don't know if she is forgeting that she makes mistakes to or if she just thinks she is better then everyone. Also, sorry if I'm ranting. And sorry if I upset any Katara fans... The fact I don't like Katara is nothing special I don't like hardly ne one.. I do agree that for the amount of training she appears to hav had she is too powerful... She was awful in the first epi and now she;s suddenly awesome.. I don't like that they cud've at least given us a montage on how she got that good *sing montage song* lol I also think her hair loopies would be rather impractical. If u hav poorer eyesight ur prett much blinded by things that waft infront of ur eyes coz it confuese ur brain.. I obviously cannot vouch for Katara having poor eyeisght but when she is an old lady she either gonna hav to cut em off or get glasses... With no teacher and no real training she was able to waterbend mildly well, she was obviously a natural waterbender, like Aang who became the youngest Air Nomad to become an airbending master and get his tattoos, it was just in her blood to be that powerful Well I don't think the little amount of training is her fault. She had no one to teach her before the series and not until the end of season 1. They couldnt have a beginner waterbender following Aang around or she would have been killed very quickly. She progressed so quickly because it was a writing necessity. And really I think the only bender who had a really difficult time mastering his art was Zuko.. No one says any thing about Sokka mastering the sword in 2 daysMastering and being good at bending are two different things... Sokka is just super intelligent, he lacks much wisdom making him seem like an idiotic, but he is a jack of all trades
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Katara
Jul 14, 2008 20:05:07 GMT -5
Post by spiritmage234 on Jul 14, 2008 20:05:07 GMT -5
Dude, Sokka ain't no master swordsman. Sure, he used his sword in the battle, but you notice that on a regular basis, he still uses his trustworthy boomerang. I still consider him a novice.
And with Katara... I can kinda understand how Katara got strong in a short amount of time: Aang did too afterall, and she needs to get as much experience as she can to defeat the Firelord. But then I take into consideration that Aang has probably been training since his early childhood too, so he still had much more skill than Katara did. Plus, since he's the Avatar and all, it's just his tendency to catch onto mastering elements a little bit quicker than average benders (Why else would he one-up Katara when they were training for the first time?) Toph is prodigy and she's the same age of Aang, and she had no (progressive) formal teaching as well. But she trained by herself not for her skill, but for her survival. And like Zukofan said, Ozai's Angel's are all masters because they had the best in the land teaching them.
Then you have Katara, from a (backwater (no pun intended)) village, no other waterbenders in the entire hemispere. She didn't have the luxary of time to train like Toph could have because she was a working girl: she had chores and all that to attend to. She's fourteen by the time Aang arrives, and Aang is still a lot more experienced. She's struggling on the way to the North Pole, but she is slowly progressing, which is good. Then she finally get's to the all mighty Master Pakku, and I admit, her skill greatly improved.
Then Master Pakku said:
"Even though you have these scrolls, Aang, doesn't mean you don't need a master."
Those words just made this whole thing evaporate like a pathetic little puddle. They never gave us the duration of how long they were in the North Pole, but they sure as hell weren't their for a year or more. give or take, at least 3-4 weeks. After that duration - and some training and battle experience throughout Book Earth - by the first episode of Book Fire Katara goes all "WHOOOOOOOSH!!!!!" with the entire ocean.
They've been on this journey from late fall to early summer. Katara was a good ol' novice water bender from fall to mid winter. Then by the end of spring, she's a novice royce-goddess.
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Katara
Jul 14, 2008 20:28:23 GMT -5
Post by ƒelinoel on Jul 14, 2008 20:28:23 GMT -5
Dude, Sokka ain't no master swordsman. Sure, he used his sword in the battle, but you notice that on a regular basis, he still uses his trustworthy boomerang. I still consider him a novice. And with Katara... I can kinda understand how Katara got strong in a short amount of time: Aang did too afterall, and she needs to get as much experience as she can to defeat the Firelord. But then I take into consideration that Aang has probably been training since his early childhood too, so he still had much more skill than Katara did. Plus, since he's the Avatar and all, it's just his tendency to catch onto mastering elements a little bit quicker than average benders (Why else would he one-up Katara when they were training for the first time?) Toph is prodigy and she's the same age of Aang, and she had no (progressive) formal teaching as well. But she trained by herself not for her skill, but for her survival. And like Zukofan said, Ozai's Angel's are all masters because they had the best in the land teaching them. Then you have Katara, from a (backwater (no pun intended)) village, no other waterbenders in the entire hemispere. She didn't have the luxary of time to train like Toph could have because she was a working girl: she had chores and all that to attend to. She's fourteen by the time Aang arrives, and Aang is still a lot more experienced. She's struggling on the way to the North Pole, but she is slowly progressing, which is good. Then she finally get's to the all mighty Master Pakku, and I admit, her skill greatly improved. Then Master Pakku said: "Even though you have these scrolls, Aang, doesn't mean you don't need a master." Those words just made this whole thing evaporate like a pathetic little puddle. They never gave us the duration of how long they were in the North Pole, but they sure as hell weren't their for a year or more. give or take, at least 3-4 weeks. After that duration - and some training and battle experience throughout Book Earth - by the first episode of Book Fire Katara goes all "WHOOOOOOOSH!!!!!" with the entire ocean. They've been on this journey from late fall to early summer. Katara was a good ol' novice water bender from fall to mid winter. Then by the end of spring, she's a novice royce-goddess. The Foggy Swamp Tribe had waterbenders in the same hemispere as the Southern Water Tribe
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Azula's Flames
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Katara
Jul 14, 2008 20:37:58 GMT -5
Post by Azula's Flames on Jul 14, 2008 20:37:58 GMT -5
^Yea well no one knew about them (strangley enough like the sun warriors, seems to be alot of hidden peoples in this world eh.....)
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Katara
Jul 14, 2008 20:44:04 GMT -5
Post by ƒelinoel on Jul 14, 2008 20:44:04 GMT -5
^Yea well no one knew about them (strangley enough like the sun warriors, seems to be alot of hidden peoples in this world eh.....) Well we only know for sure the Southern Water Tribe currently didn't know about them, since the Foggy Swamp Water Tribe originated from the Southern Water Tribe I am pretty sure the Southern Water Tribe knew about them at one time, plus people in the Earth Kingdom and Fire Nation might know about them, we don't know for sure. Also people knew about the Sun Warriors, they just thought they died off hundreds of years ago, I bet O.W.L. covered up their current existance
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Katara
Jul 15, 2008 3:30:00 GMT -5
Post by zuko14 on Jul 15, 2008 3:30:00 GMT -5
I really like Katara but sometimes she is a real downer exspecially when Aang, Sokka or Thoph want to have fun, she always ruins it. She is a good character though and I do enjoy seeing her on the show, but sometimes she has her moments.
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Katara
Jul 15, 2008 3:46:23 GMT -5
Post by ƒelinoel on Jul 15, 2008 3:46:23 GMT -5
I really like Katara but sometimes she is a real downer exspecially when Aang, Sokka or Thoph want to have fun, she always ruins it. She is a good character though and I do enjoy seeing her on the show, but sometimes she has her moments. lol she is the responsible one
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Katara
Jul 15, 2008 5:25:03 GMT -5
Post by spiritmage234 on Jul 15, 2008 5:25:03 GMT -5
ƒelinoel: Yeah. The Foggy Swamp Tribe is in the same hemisphere just barely. It's still way too far for Katara's father to trek just to find a young child a waterbending teacher. He had to find one that was close to his family. Besides, they use a different waterbending technique involving mainly the manipulation of water in plants. Not much green on a polar icecap.
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Katara
Jul 15, 2008 6:09:22 GMT -5
Post by ƒelinoel on Jul 15, 2008 6:09:22 GMT -5
ƒelinoel: Yeah. The Foggy Swamp Tribe is in the same hemisphere just barely. It's still way too far for Katara's father to trek just to find a young child a waterbending teacher. He had to find one that was close to his family. Besides, they use a different waterbending technique involving mainly the manipulation of water in plants. Not much green on a polar icecap. They may use such a different style of waterbending that it has its own name, but it is still waterbending and Katara would still be able to learn it
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Katara
Jul 15, 2008 7:51:50 GMT -5
Post by spiritmage234 on Jul 15, 2008 7:51:50 GMT -5
^Yeah, there's that too. What it all goes down to is waterbending.
But from the mild interview that they shared with the Foggy Swamp Tribe, they seem to have no interest of going back to a frozen semi-wasteland. They'd much prefer sticking to their murky swamp, given any situation (except in the case of the Day of Black Sun. Plus Fire Nation climate is much more sutible for their, er, regional garb.)
That, and both tribes knew about each other, at one point. Probably a hundred years ago. A lot of lineage information (and information in general) gets lost during the tides of war. There's a reason why they were like, "WAAAAA!! You're a waterbender too!!??" when they first encountered. If Hakada was to travel that far and to that remote location, it would have been a one in one-hundred chance that he would have came across them and realized that they were also of Water Tribe kin.
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Katara
Jul 15, 2008 13:28:14 GMT -5
Post by ƒelinoel on Jul 15, 2008 13:28:14 GMT -5
^Yeah, there's that too. What it all goes down to is waterbending. But from the mild interview that they shared with the Foggy Swamp Tribe, they seem to have no interest of going back to a frozen semi-wasteland. They'd much prefer sticking to their murky swamp, given any situation (except in the case of the Day of Black Sun. Plus Fire Nation climate is much more sutible for their, er, regional garb.) That, and both tribes knew about each other, at one point. Probably a hundred years ago. A lot of lineage information (and information in general) gets lost during the tides of war. There's a reason why they were like, "WAAAAA!! You're a waterbender too!!??" when they first encountered. If Hakada was to travel that far and to that remote location, it would have been a one in one-hundred chance that he would have came across them and realized that they were also of Water Tribe kin. Why bring them back to the South Pole? That would only leave Water Tribes with two tribes again and its such a little amount Plus Hakoda doesn't seem to be able to waterbend so he couldn't prove that they were "kin" like Katara did
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Katara
Jul 15, 2008 15:43:18 GMT -5
Post by spiritmage234 on Jul 15, 2008 15:43:18 GMT -5
^Exactly.
Another reason why they couldn't have taught Katara waterbending.
The big guy who made that big aquaplant monster would have annilated poor ol daddy o'. D:
Plus, it's not like Hakada would say, "Okay. Your whole entire community must leave to go South to teach our only waterbender - my six year old daughter - how to waterbend." He'd only need one experienced dude anyway. :P
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Katara
Jul 15, 2008 17:17:13 GMT -5
Post by ƒelinoel on Jul 15, 2008 17:17:13 GMT -5
^Exactly. Another reason why they couldn't have taught Katara waterbending. The big guy who made that big aquaplant monster would have annilated poor ol daddy o'. D: Plus, it's not like Hakada would say, "Okay. Your whole entire community must leave to go South to teach our only waterbender - my six year old daughter - how to waterbend." He'd only need one experienced dude anyway. :P Ummm why couldn't Katara have left for them? ???
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Katara
Jul 15, 2008 17:32:32 GMT -5
Post by spiritmage234 on Jul 15, 2008 17:32:32 GMT -5
Dude, she was like, five or six when her bending abilities came to be.
Sure it'd be nice if she and her father went a little road trip together at an early age, (you know like a father-daughter bonding) but it'd be disappointing if they went all over only to find nothing (considering that the descendants of both tribes had no idea the other existed, so, they wouldn't really know either way). :P
That and it'd be pretty risky to travel around with a young child during war time.
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