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Post by sg1man on Nov 26, 2007 18:48:27 GMT -5
Well, as pointed out already, avatar is becoming more and more like an anime, which is part of why the third season started out so bad, in my opinion.
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Post by spiritmage234 on Nov 27, 2007 15:22:56 GMT -5
Ya see, now I don't know. I think I would just prefer Avatar to be straight out anime instead of an anime knock off.
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Post by bongalak on Nov 27, 2007 15:40:13 GMT -5
I think the episodes look more or less anime-ish depending on the studio that created them. I don't know the full details but from what I hear there are two studios that alternate animating episodes. One studio seems to do more serious and, in my opinion, better animated episodes such as The Earth King, The Headband, and Sokka's Master. While the other one does less serious and, also in my opinion, less quality episodes such as The Chase, Tales of Ba Sing Se, and Nightmares and Daydreams.
Avatar is a cartoon aimed toward American children, who are well used to silly anime stuff, so certain anime-like elements are to be expected (such as overly exaggerated facial expressions). But aside from those minor stuff Avatar is so much different from your average anime. Avatar's pace, prevailing themes, humor, fight sequences, character development, and universe itself is so unique that I think it's a little unfair to call Avatar an anime-wannabe. IMHO, Avatar is in a league of its own.
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Post by Nero on Nov 27, 2007 22:56:39 GMT -5
Well, as pointed out already, avatar is becoming more and more like an anime, which is part of why the third season started out so bad, in my opinion. You know this is strange talk for a show that in it's first year was considered to be an Anime knockoff anyway. Yeah include me in there too...Martin Mystery and Totally Spies were around at that time and I thought Avatar was going to be the same. As Jet would say I turned out to be "Dead wrong". I also don't see what the quality of a show has to do with exaggerated face faults. And Aanglover, what exactly is an "Anime hypocrite"? I'm sure you meant to write something else right?
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Post by spiritmage234 on Nov 28, 2007 5:16:55 GMT -5
Avatar is a cartoon aimed toward American children, who are well used to silly anime stuff, so certain anime-like elements are to be expected (such as overly exaggerated facial expressions). That's the thing that bugs me most about Avatar. I know that at first it was aimed toward children, but the demography expand soooo much, to the point where I think that more preteens, teens, and young adults watch Avatar than little kids. But I ranted about this somewhere else on the general board.
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Post by bongalak on Nov 28, 2007 15:27:53 GMT -5
Yea, to be honest I would rather do without all that anime silliness too. But what can you do.
On the bright side, I don't think we will be seeing any more episodes like The Nightmares and Daydreams anymore. I think the creators made that episode just to get people a little relaxed right before they dive into all them action and suspense. And with the season finale being four episodes long, we are gonna be in for some high quality avatar action goodies.
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Post by Chibi Chan-o on Nov 28, 2007 21:30:38 GMT -5
What happened in that episode? I missed it.....
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Post by lilabby on Nov 28, 2007 21:50:49 GMT -5
^^You didn't miss much. Aang basically went crazy...well he started daydreaming and stressing because he hadn't realized the invasion was only a couple of days away. He couldn't sleep so he started daydreaming a bunch of crazy bizzare things....momo&appa fighting and talking.....and he had this really cool daydream where he kissed katara LOL that was funny.... but i actually like all the cool goofy animation in that particular episode.
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Post by Chibi Chan-o on Nov 28, 2007 21:59:50 GMT -5
Meh.... So.... It was a filler, basically?
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Post by Pyroman on Dec 5, 2007 1:15:14 GMT -5
Well I would have to disagree with almost everyone. The thing is Avatar is considered anime for various reasons: The way the characters are drawn would does not nessaraly declare it not anime. Also the fact it was written by american writers does not either. Not all anime cartoons are in the way describe as all women have big brests etc. or battles scenes last for 1 or more episodes.
Avatar is in the catogory of Anime due to it is series which follows a sequence of events. Which has a story line and plot for the entire series, unlike other non anime which every episode has no realation whatsoever to the last unless of course was a 2 part show.
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Post by bongalak on Dec 5, 2007 3:14:31 GMT -5
Avatar is in the catogory of Anime due to it is series which follows a sequence of events. Which has a story line and plot for the entire series, unlike other non anime which every episode has no realation whatsoever to the last unless of course was a 2 part show. Would you then call Jackie Chan Adventures an anime? It contains ongoing storyline throughout the entire series, yet the animation style is clearly American. I think anime has more to do with animation style than the method of story progression. And as far as animation style goes, I think Avatar is a lot different from most anime.
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Post by Pyroman on Dec 5, 2007 13:37:37 GMT -5
Avatar is in the catogory of Anime due to it is series which follows a sequence of events. Which has a story line and plot for the entire series, unlike other non anime which every episode has no realation whatsoever to the last unless of course was a 2 part show. Would you then call Jackie Chan Adventures an anime? It contains ongoing storyline throughout the entire series, yet the animation style is clearly American. I think anime has more to do with animation style than the method of story progression. And as far as animation style goes, I think Avatar is a lot different from most anime. have not watched Jakie chan adventures but have seen clips from it and no would not be. although Guess in a way that what I was refering too about the style. "Avatar" has lot of similarities to Anime, even though it was written by American writers. people mostly refer to anime as cartoons made in Japan, which attact all ages (different catogories). For the Most part most of the accually animation for "Avatar" is done in Japan, According to interviews with writers on Collection DVDs for Water and Earth. It may not be 100% an anime cartoon for variouos reason but yet there are some aspects of the series/show that can still put in the catogory.
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Post by bongalak on Dec 5, 2007 16:04:46 GMT -5
Agreed. Avatar may not be 100% anime, but certain percentage of it is definitely anime-ish. Just how much is up to interpretation I guess. By the way most of the animations are actually done in Korea. The Korean guy in charge of the animations in Avatar got some awards for his work. www.fame-us.org/1007_koreandirectors.html
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Post by Pyroman on Dec 6, 2007 3:25:14 GMT -5
you may be right but I just remembered hearing what writers said when watched interview with M . Night Shalaman within the complete Earth Collectors edition Box set. That after making their sketches and writing story boards for episodes they are sent to Japan to have the actual Animations finalized and compleated.
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Post by bongalak on Dec 6, 2007 18:38:25 GMT -5
Hmm... I would like to watch that interview too. But need more money before I can buy them DVDs -_-
Perhaps M. Night got it wrong? In Mike and Brian's interviews they talk about frequently travelling to Korea to work with the animators there. I'd trust Mike & Brian over Shaymalan (however it is spelled).
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