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Post by somniumweb on Jul 4, 2009 19:49:50 GMT -5
Read the manga. It's a lot better and there's no stupid filler! (of course, currently the manga is a little WTH, but I'm hoping it'll change soon.) BUT BACK ON TOPIC... I got nothin. This is me still being curious about that "post of the parallels between ATLA/Soko and Dae Jang Geum." Even though I haven't been able to see all of it, SPOIL ME. But take your time, really. Don't mind me. Oh Bleach, so entertaining and vulnerable to crack... It's best enjoyed by staying away from the ship wars and character bashing. Oh hey, just like every other series! XD Seriously, the only pairing I really like on Bleach is ByakuyaxHisana and, well, if you know your Bleach you know the status of that... If we're talking about comparing other pairings, I haven't really seen anything yet that could be similar to ZukoxSong. The only other cartoon character I can compare to Zuko at the moment is Viral from Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann... and there's really no Song for Viral (because AdianexViral makes me think of AzulaxZuko) unless you are able to give his dream kittywife? "catwaifu?" some depth. Btw, I totally ship Viralxkittywife... you see a pattern? Hush, me neither. Hm, I guess IchigoxOrihime can be an accurate comparison. Ichigo has his friendship with her going for him, though. Not counting Iroh, Zuko never really had friends until the second half of S3. Oh God, bad memories of S3...So I herd Song is recruiting for a harem? Yup, I've been reading dem drabbles... freakin' awesome! I kinda wanna contribute to that AU challenge, but I'm kinda sorta lame at fanart and fanfiction... meaning I'm really bad. XD Having a really cramped summer semester, I'd never finish anything on time anyway. Oh, what is this? ^ Well, I just might have to find myself some friend with Nicktoons Network if they really DO decide to do this for S2. Supposedly, the writer of these "extras" is Joshua Hamilton. Guess what S2 episode Joshua Hamilton wrote for? Mmhm. I don't want to get exited because a lot of times, these extras get repetitive or just say cheesy jokes. In fact, if the writer of these "extras" IS Mr. Hamilton, I kinda expected better of him than to write "Earth Nation" or that it was the whole Kingdom that was fighting. I thought it was just two feuding tribes (am I confusing this with "The Great Divide?"). But since there was no commentary for CoTL, I'll kinda take anything. edit: Hurr I took too long to type and now I read that Nandi got her post in before I did... sorry! XD
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Post by nandireya on Jul 4, 2009 20:03:27 GMT -5
I don't know how reliable those pop-ups are. I mean, there is the legendary one that makes liars of Mike and Bryan by saying that Zutara WAS going to be canon...
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Post by aquavi on Jul 4, 2009 20:55:45 GMT -5
^Yeah I heard about that one and there are a few explanations for it... but I think it's more in concerns to the writers/etc covering their butts.
I'd like to know if Hamilton wrote the B story (Zuko's half) of the episode or not. Episodes can have more then one writer, or at least multiple idea pitchers (including story boarders) and I just really want to know who Song is the brain child of. (And my comparison post will get made one day... I just need to collect screencaps. My second watching of Dae Jung-Guem pretty much set in stone that Song was based off of her which is why she manages to be more fleshed out then a good majority of characters with equal screen time.)
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Post by somniumweb on Jul 4, 2009 22:09:26 GMT -5
I took that pop-up to be just more ship-teasing. It did say after that something about Katara liking "bad boys." The only "bad boy" she crushed on was Jet, so... yeah, unfortunately for some, more ship teasing.
According to avatarspirit.net, all it says about "Josh Hamilton" in concerns to CoTL is that he was the episode writer and writer's assistant. The head writer is listed as Aaron Ehasz. There were three staff writers, but nothing about who wrote what or any other details. This is kinda why I wanna see this "extras" episode of CoTL if they make one. I know it probably won't be as reliable as an actual commentary, but it would be something. Dangit, if they throw in more ship teasing, at least I would be ready for it. I just really want to see what the pop-ups will say about it, but I'm also prepared to accept that maybe nothing... new? enlightening?... will come from it.
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Post by aquavi on Jul 5, 2009 9:16:49 GMT -5
If they say that Song's based off of a character from a popular Korean drama/show, that's enough for me. Saying "Jewel in the Palace" (Dae Jung-Guem's English title) would probably be too much and most people probably wouldn't know about it. I wished they'd stop with the teasing. The show's over, it's been A YEAR so there's no point in teasing; you're not loosing your viewership, especially if you can still re-run old episodes. If you really want to tease us, tell us if/when the new series is coming and what'll be about. Nnnggh. Make me drawble!
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Post by somniumweb on Jul 10, 2009 17:45:00 GMT -5
I'd like to announce that Zuko/Song made its (very likely first) appearance onto fandomsecrets yesterday... and survived with no one making drama. I'm so proud. If you're interested...Post-series Soko is alive, I tell you. Also, does it matter what symbol one uses to describe a pairing? Example: ZukoxSong or Zuko/Song. I think I read something that said / describes slash pairings, but has that changed? I throw around a variety of ways so, idk.
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Post by nandireya on Jul 10, 2009 18:07:33 GMT -5
I could do a smilie...but what would I do? They don't have a real defining moment like: "You talk too much...let's put that mouth to better use." "I'm so ready to forgive you now and give you a big hug in front of the guy who's got a major crush on me!" "Love is painful so this is how I show people I like them." "Leave me again and I'll hurt you!" This one was suggested... So...if you've got any ideas...or know a smilie I could modify...let me know.
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Post by aquavi on Jul 10, 2009 23:42:20 GMT -5
The "/" supposedly is only used for slash pairings, but then the term 'ship' should only be used for heterosexual pairings (in other words, the term 'slash ship' doesn't make much sense.) Language, even on the internets, evolves. Either way works I prefer the "/" because I think it looks nicer then the "x". That is if there isn't a namesmoosh that doesn't look/sound ridiculous.
And I really don't have a clue for an idea for a smilie. Soko isn't as... inherently physical as other ships.
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Post by syarafire on Jul 11, 2009 0:26:13 GMT -5
As far as I can tell, the term "slash" typed out, and sometimes the symbol itself represent a gay/lesbian pairing, but the term "ship" is general - it's just short for "relationship". I've seen / and x used in between names to denote a pairing, regardless of the genders of the characters. I like / better, too. I don't like ship names where the characters' names are put together, though. I think I'm scarred from the Lost fandom and its ridiculous ship names. @nandi: I like the Kataang hearts one at the bottom for Soko, but they're all nice. =)
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Post by nandireya on Jul 11, 2009 1:00:43 GMT -5
I thought something like this might work...
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Post by aquavi on Jul 11, 2009 7:59:51 GMT -5
^The "Hold me!" smilie? XD 'Ship" was originally supposed to be used to describe the "main, canon heterosexual pairing" of a series, versus everything else (usually slash.) That is, if Wikipedia is to be believed. It got generalized later because, really. I love it when FFRants has a namesmoosh rant... some get really ridiculous. XD (And I think 'Zutara' has actually shown up once and a bothersome ship name. )
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Post by nandireya on Jul 11, 2009 8:10:01 GMT -5
I thought it was 'comfort'... I always thought Zutara sounded like an alien planet...and Kataang like a comicbook sword-fighting sound effect I don't actually much care for the relationship name condensations. I mean, it's not like we do it in real life. Oh, wait...they do it with celebrity couples, don't they?
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Post by aquavi on Jul 11, 2009 15:44:32 GMT -5
... I think dA has it as comfort with "hold me" as its tag. I don't remember. dA smilies are weird tho.
Zutara's been compared to sounding like a rock band's name. On Urban Dictionary "Soko" is a word smoosh of 'so cool' and if you type it into Google it's the name of a singer.
I think it started with "Beniffer" and it just got worse from there.
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Post by sanuwa on Jul 15, 2009 22:24:15 GMT -5
Hmm... I've really never thought about why theres the "x" or "/" between the names, and maybe names are combined because they're faster and easier to say?
just my thinking.
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Post by aurawind on Jul 27, 2009 8:04:09 GMT -5
I adore that smiley! you should it for Soko >w<
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