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Post by bongalak on Nov 18, 2007 1:05:30 GMT -5
Has anyone wondered about the possible unintended side effects of bloodbending?
I mean, the idea is simple enough, just bend the blood inside a person's veins and muscles so that they move the way you want them to move. Now I'm no doctor, not even a premed, but I'm pretty sure that abruptly altering the body's natural bloodflow would have lasting detrimental effects on a person's general well being.
I know for a fact that causing blood to flow backwards can do serious damage to the body. And a careless bloodbender could easily rupture a major vein or cause internal hemmorage. Allowing pools of blood to move to a part of the body where they are not supposed to go could result in serious problems as well. Basically it would be frighteningly easy to grievously harm a person without intending to while bloodbending.
Now I could buy that Hama could have learned to bloodbend without harming the subject because she had decades to practice. But Katara being able to bloodbend Hama without accidently rupturing her veins or causing permenant internal damage? On her very first try? Nu uh, I don't think so. As talented and gifted as she is, there is no way she could have done bloodbending safely and properly. Perhaps Hama was actually bleeding inside when she was being dragged away at the end.
So the point of this thread? I forget, but I'm pretty sure that bloodbending isn't as safe and harmless as it would seem.
Are there any doctors or premeds on this board? It would be nice if someone could elaborate on the possible effects of bloodbending on human body.
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Post by Horyo on Nov 18, 2007 4:01:39 GMT -5
I believed that it's said that Bloodbending was controlling the fluids in the body, rather than blood itself.
And Katara did learn healing from Yugoda, where the water was shown to go through the different parts of the body . I believe with that knowledge and her advanced learning, Katara was able to bloodbend Hama without permanently hurting her. I believe though that Hama was straining a bit, maybe because she is old, or maybe because it's painful.
But to have your blood circulate in reverse order would kill the body, as certain cells that needed the oxygen and nutrients are deprived, even for a few minutes, that's deadly.
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Post by Darryl on Nov 18, 2007 4:09:12 GMT -5
Ultimate Bloodbending skill: Organ Bending. LOL.
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Post by blak_cat on Nov 18, 2007 10:37:25 GMT -5
This is why I think it may not be literally bending blood. On the DF podcast we said that it may not be blood bending but bending the water within cells (which are made up of mostly water) and blood bending is just a nick-name. But I have to disagree, there is water in your blood, when blood bending you simply extract the water from the blood stream and manipulate it (which seems to explain why a full moon is needed). But even pulling out the water could cause severe damage to the body if it somehow disrupts normal blood flow...
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Post by WyrmKing on Nov 18, 2007 11:38:15 GMT -5
Bloodbending is bending every water in a living thing's body. Blood is 83% water, bone is 22% water, muscle tissue is about 75% water and body fat contains like 25% water.
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Post by Kataang101 on Nov 18, 2007 15:40:18 GMT -5
^^^good point.
I believe that bending the water in someone's body can hurt them permanently because you are basically disrupting the natural flow of the body which in turn could damage organs veins ext....
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Post by mireme on Nov 18, 2007 17:27:42 GMT -5
You have to remember though, that this is a kids show and bloodbending is as creepy as it's going to get. If it starts getting into the ramifications of bloodbending realistically...traumatising. On a realistic note, yes, the effects would be detrimental ebcause in my imagination of what bloodbending does, it would be dehydrating certain parts of the body but excessively hydrating on the other (the side where you want to move the body). Sorta like forced osmosis, but that's just me ./geek
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Post by blak_cat on Nov 18, 2007 18:22:22 GMT -5
Exactly, thinking about all the things you can do with blood-bending just makes me shudder. I guess Nick is assiming the fans won't go on the interent and come up with all the things that can be accomplished through controlling one's boodily fluids...of course, I suppose the actuall demographic won't be doing that...
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Post by thelastavatar on Nov 18, 2007 18:29:19 GMT -5
Actually, I think that the only thing the bloodbending does is manipulate the blood, with its high water lvl, through its normal pathways to get the person controlled to do what the bender wants them to do. So it will not harm them at all, but it just feels like you're a mindless zombie under someone else's control.
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Post by WyrmKing on Nov 18, 2007 19:03:43 GMT -5
Actually, I think that the only thing the bloodbending does is manipulate the blood, with its high water lvl, through its normal pathways to get the person controlled to do what the bender wants them to do. So it will not harm them at all, but it just feels like you're a mindless zombie under someone else's control. Hama said it controls every water in the body. Every muscle tissues etc. Look up for post about water % in blood, muscle tissues, bones. etc.
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Post by Horyo on Nov 18, 2007 20:47:15 GMT -5
I think that Hama did it through the muscles and fats more than she did blood.
Katara, being new at it probably depended on all blood, which is why Hama had an expression of pain and terror on her face.
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Post by Appayipyip the Klingon on Nov 19, 2007 14:50:50 GMT -5
We also have to remember that the Avaverse is different.There is still the possibility that it doesn't harm anyone but does do things with the body anyway.(Anyone who has been through this new bending now knows how water feels.)But still,there's also a possibility that the side effects happen.
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Post by bongalak on Nov 20, 2007 19:44:30 GMT -5
I just thought of another application for bloodbending: corpsebending.
Think about it. Let's say you are in a battlefield, and there are bodies all about you. You can just pick up the bodies and fling them about however you like because unlike living humans you wouldn't have to worry about causing any internal damage. Because they're already dead. Besides, think of how demoralizing it would be for the enemies.
I know it's kinda gross, and I have no idea what compelled me to think of such thing. But eh.
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Post by thelastavatar on Nov 20, 2007 23:43:09 GMT -5
So basically you are suggesting necromancy just about? I doubt it will come to that. Sure, it can be done, but the waterbenders are known for HEALING, not death and destruction. Defiling a dead person's course, I think, would go against any healing creed out there. I wonder if it would require a full moon as well, seeing as it is a branch from bloodbending, or since there is no life force left there is no resistance against the bender?
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Post by Azula's Flames on Nov 25, 2007 12:51:56 GMT -5
You have to remember though, that this is a kids show and bloodbending is as creepy as it's going to get. If it starts getting into the ramifications of bloodbending realistically...traumatising. On a realistic note, yes, the effects would be detrimental ebcause in my imagination of what bloodbending does, it would be dehydrating certain parts of the body but excessively hydrating on the other (the side where you want to move the body). Sorta like forced osmosis, but that's just me ./geek actually more like active transport because its across the concentration gradient lol
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