Post by Yang Fishy on Apr 30, 2007 13:30:43 GMT -5
The only comments that really make me go uncontrolled Avatar state mad are when shippers attack the players not the game. I've seen many on the internet who simply generalize Zutara into a group of "angsting teenage girls" or "people who need hooked on phonics cause they obviously don't know the meaning of the words plot, canon, and foreshadowing." When someone mentions that it hurts all of us not just one of us. Attack the argument and call it silly if you'd like, but please don't ever attack the poster. You don't know him or her. That's all I guess.
Before I respond[/about time -.-] I'll have to say give the boy a chance to explain why he mentioned Katara and and Aang would be unrealisitc. For all we know maybe it's not because he's twelve years old
It would be nice if one was. *gets shot*
Just my opinion, but so far there have been a good number of romances involving a hopeless romantic and an oblivious person standing on end. But before I get shunned, I never really mentioned a pairing did I? I would like to see another Yue and Sokka romance or Sokka and Suki type- cause mutual love is awesome.
She still liked him? I didn't get that notion, she just reacted like any teenage girl would who's feelings have been hurt. The little crush she had on him only served as a form of comical relieve in Lake Laogai, if you ask me.
It was obvious that Katara hadn't loved Jet but she may had had strong feelings for him. I don't see how Jet dying and Katara willing to stay there for him implies that Jettara was being used a comic relief in 'Lake Laogai.' Referring back to 'Jet,' it can be said that Katara had really liked him. Simply because it was for his dashing look, heroic qualities, or headstrong resolve doesn't make it more flimsy than other romances-their all different, we should respect that. To take note, there was an instance where Sokka had called Jet, Katara's "boyfriend" and she hadn't denied it. She also went out of her way defending him when Sokka had called him a thug.
She felt personally hurt and betrayed when she found out his true intentions and even when Jet called for her help, one could see that it pained her to let him go and leave him stranding there.
Very true, she sympathizes with everyone who deserves it. Still, her relationship with Aang runs much deeper than mere sympathy. How much deeper, well, we'll just have to wait and find out.
Simply because Katara's relationship with Aang is "much deeper than mere sympathy" doesn't necessarily knock Zutara out of the ring. We shouldn't be comparing romances. Their all different so it's only normal that Zuko and Katara's relationship would be very different from Katara's and Aang's. Katara and Aang are together 24/7, Katara and Zuko meet up once in a full moon. It's only common sense that one relationship would be more developed/emphasized than the other.
I'm going to have to continue to disagree there. It was a step in his journey, but you don't have multiple steps in a crossroads. You choose a direction. A huge part of the fandom feels like he chose the wrong direction and is waiting for him to "correct" this and there's no way for him to do that without going back on the choice he already made, which I maintain would be undermining the dramatic impact of everything that happened with him in the finale.
This is where I'll have to disagree with you. Zuko had made his choice just as Aang did in the COD, but simply because he choose to be on the path that he's now destined to follw doesn't imply that he can never regret this decision later on. Aang had a made a choice to refuse to let Katara go, yet later on after being faced with more enemies than he could handle, he felt it was best that he did let Katara go. Zuko doesn't necessarily have to literally turn back around and go the other way and join the Aang gang to attain true redemption.
He could start all over or simply learn from his errors and keep moving forward. Iroh believes in second chances and this is technically the second time Zuko has disagreed with his uncles best interests for him. As a firm believer of "family sticks together," I doubt he won't forgive his own nephew if in that's what his nephew truly wants.
As Mike and Bryan have mentioned they are true supporters of the idea of achieving redemption. What better redemption than that of Zuko's could the plot ask for?
anastasia14 said:
Why? Just because he’s twelve? IMO, saying what Aang feels for Katara is just a silly little crush doesn’t really work since the show contradicts that (I mean, one of the major conflicts in the second season finale came from the fact that Aang is in love with Katara). Before I respond[/about time -.-] I'll have to say give the boy a chance to explain why he mentioned Katara and and Aang would be unrealisitc. For all we know maybe it's not because he's twelve years old
thepower06 said:
Now let me decipher this, not all relationhips have to be behind *Close Doors*It would be nice if one was. *gets shot*
Just my opinion, but so far there have been a good number of romances involving a hopeless romantic and an oblivious person standing on end. But before I get shunned, I never really mentioned a pairing did I? I would like to see another Yue and Sokka romance or Sokka and Suki type- cause mutual love is awesome.
spook said:
She still liked him? I didn't get that notion, she just reacted like any teenage girl would who's feelings have been hurt. The little crush she had on him only served as a form of comical relieve in Lake Laogai, if you ask me.
It was obvious that Katara hadn't loved Jet but she may had had strong feelings for him. I don't see how Jet dying and Katara willing to stay there for him implies that Jettara was being used a comic relief in 'Lake Laogai.' Referring back to 'Jet,' it can be said that Katara had really liked him. Simply because it was for his dashing look, heroic qualities, or headstrong resolve doesn't make it more flimsy than other romances-their all different, we should respect that. To take note, there was an instance where Sokka had called Jet, Katara's "boyfriend" and she hadn't denied it. She also went out of her way defending him when Sokka had called him a thug.
She felt personally hurt and betrayed when she found out his true intentions and even when Jet called for her help, one could see that it pained her to let him go and leave him stranding there.
It's obvious that Aang and Katara mean a great deal to eachother, but how far Katara is to Aang we don't know, because that is just in her character, she even showed sympathy to Zuko, her enemy, why? Because that's just her nature to do so.
Very true, she sympathizes with everyone who deserves it. Still, her relationship with Aang runs much deeper than mere sympathy. How much deeper, well, we'll just have to wait and find out.
Simply because Katara's relationship with Aang is "much deeper than mere sympathy" doesn't necessarily knock Zutara out of the ring. We shouldn't be comparing romances. Their all different so it's only normal that Zuko and Katara's relationship would be very different from Katara's and Aang's. Katara and Aang are together 24/7, Katara and Zuko meet up once in a full moon. It's only common sense that one relationship would be more developed/emphasized than the other.
sehn said:
I think it's in truth building upon it. What he did in the finale was just the first step in his crossroads.
I'm going to have to continue to disagree there. It was a step in his journey, but you don't have multiple steps in a crossroads. You choose a direction. A huge part of the fandom feels like he chose the wrong direction and is waiting for him to "correct" this and there's no way for him to do that without going back on the choice he already made, which I maintain would be undermining the dramatic impact of everything that happened with him in the finale.
This is where I'll have to disagree with you. Zuko had made his choice just as Aang did in the COD, but simply because he choose to be on the path that he's now destined to follw doesn't imply that he can never regret this decision later on. Aang had a made a choice to refuse to let Katara go, yet later on after being faced with more enemies than he could handle, he felt it was best that he did let Katara go. Zuko doesn't necessarily have to literally turn back around and go the other way and join the Aang gang to attain true redemption.
He could start all over or simply learn from his errors and keep moving forward. Iroh believes in second chances and this is technically the second time Zuko has disagreed with his uncles best interests for him. As a firm believer of "family sticks together," I doubt he won't forgive his own nephew if in that's what his nephew truly wants.
As Mike and Bryan have mentioned they are true supporters of the idea of achieving redemption. What better redemption than that of Zuko's could the plot ask for?