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Post by username on Jun 22, 2008 19:40:46 GMT -5
Does the trash board serve a purpose regarding space and bandwidth or something technical like that?
Because if not, wouldn't it be better if there was no trash board and we simply locked threads? There would be no more "hayyy wher did mah thread go?" posts, people would be much more likely to see why the threads were locked, and the offense causing the lock would be less likely to be repeated.
Most other forums I've seen don't use a trash board, and I think a lock and let it die system might be less confusing and more efficient.
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Post by Blind Bandit on Jun 22, 2008 20:34:27 GMT -5
The problem is that locked threads clutter up the boards and makes it look icky. D; If a thread is made by a new user, I typically leave it up for a while so that they should see it. Yup and it also makes it easier for the staff to keep track of recently closed threads. And it leaves the boards less cluttered with old and unused threads. We have thought about cleaning out the trash bin but that is still up for debate among the staff.
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Post by username on Jun 22, 2008 20:41:52 GMT -5
There's no real aesthetic difference when some of the threads are locked. And if there is, it would be because of the abundance of stickies. It's not a big thing though anyway. We have thought about cleaning out the trash bin but that is still up for debate among the staff. All two of them?
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Post by Blind Bandit on Jun 22, 2008 21:30:08 GMT -5
There's no real aesthetic difference when some of the threads are locked. And if there is, it would be because of the abundance of stickies. It's not a big thing though anyway. We have thought about cleaning out the trash bin but that is still up for debate among the staff. All two of them? The trash bin as its very large and many threads don't really apply anymore. True but stickies serve a purpose a locked thread usually doesn't. And really do you want to drudge through dozens and dozens of pages to find old threads?
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Post by Escalus (Syn) on Jun 23, 2008 1:27:19 GMT -5
Frankly, I would use a PM system. You delete said thread, and PM the starter. Yes, some threads are not repeats and the like, but if they where engaging, then the legendary forum is their place.
Other than that, I would say purge data more than three pages. Like emptying the recycle bin.
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Post by username on Jun 23, 2008 23:14:56 GMT -5
No real reason to purge the trash bin unless it's causing any bandwidth type problems, and somebody feels like digging through it all for what should be preserved.
The proposed PM system sounds like a good idea though.
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Post by Blind Bandit on Jun 24, 2008 2:25:37 GMT -5
Frankly, I would use a PM system. You delete said thread, and PM the starter. Yes, some threads are not repeats and the like, but if they where engaging, then the legendary forum is their place. Other than that, I would say purge data more than three pages. Like emptying the recycle bin. Hmm I like the pm idea. But that would be difficult. But I think that deserves consideration No real reason to purge the trash bin unless it's causing any bandwidth type problems, and somebody feels like digging through it all for what should be preserved. The proposed PM system sounds like a good idea though. That is pretty much what most of the staff thought. As purging the trash bin would be a lot of work and to our knowledge its not hurting the board.
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Post by Horyo on Jun 24, 2008 3:22:57 GMT -5
^Still there's alot of excess crud in the trash that needs to be cleared.
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Post by nandireya on Jun 24, 2008 6:04:31 GMT -5
If a thread is made by a new user, I typically leave it up for a while so that they should see it. I usually leave a locked thread for about 24 hours so the posters can see why I locked it...and to go to any threads I suggested they take their discussion to. I guess we could just delete them after that rather than trash them...but I've found that tends to make the boards go a little kookie for a while...
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Post by Lil' Cheney on Jun 24, 2008 16:48:13 GMT -5
No real reason to purge the trash bin unless it's causing any bandwidth type problems, and somebody feels like digging through it all for what should be preserved. The proposed PM system sounds like a good idea though. If we ever went ad-free, thetrash bin would serve a problem, as search crawlers would suck up pageviews, but that woul be the only bandwidth problems I could think of. If proboards begins o complain abou our space usage (thats thier perogative sp?), then I think the staff shpuld, yes, purge some of the pages.. not ased on amount of page\s, but based arbitrarily on the reason it was trashed and ts date. Pure spam, like threads with nothing more than a';AEIFJ;f;a;;;SDF;AS shuld be deleted before a thread that had a lot of meaning, but was trashed for some dd reason. That would probably be based on somthing like the legendary forum was sorted out (based on what I've read about the legendary forum), and have users nominate threaeds to be deleted first. Or do the opposite, nominations for thread not to be deleted.
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Post by Blind Bandit on Jun 24, 2008 19:01:38 GMT -5
No real reason to purge the trash bin unless it's causing any bandwidth type problems, and somebody feels like digging through it all for what should be preserved. The proposed PM system sounds like a good idea though. If we ever went ad-free, thetrash bin would serve a problem, as search crawlers would suck up pageviews, but that woul be the only bandwidth problems I could think of. If proboards begins o complain abou our space usage (thats thier perogative sp?), then I think the staff shpuld, yes, purge some of the pages.. not ased on amount of page\s, but based arbitrarily on the reason it was trashed and ts date. Pure spam, like threads with nothing more than a';AEIFJ;f;a;;;SDF;AS shuld be deleted before a thread that had a lot of meaning, but was trashed for some dd reason. That would probably be based on somthing like the legendary forum was sorted out (based on what I've read about the legendary forum), and have users nominate threaeds to be deleted first. Or do the opposite, nominations for thread not to be deleted. I just want to make this clear we are in no way in jeopardy of taking to much bandwith. We only take up 7-10% of our servers space. And there are bigger proboards than this one. The trash board may be purged when we have more staff present as this would take a good amount of time and right now we don't have the time or man power to deal with it. its a good idea and I know several staffers have thought about it as well.
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Post by Musogato on Jun 28, 2008 20:44:13 GMT -5
I might be wrong on this, but I think the reason we started the trash bin was because when you deleted posts/threads, the number went down on the individual posters' post count? I seem to remember people complaining about that. I'm not sure if that's still in effect though, but if it's not, then there isn't too much a reason to keep spam and repeat threads; like suggested, just pm the original poster of the thread and then delete it. However I wouldn't want to completely remove the trash bin since it archives the old and/or no longer necessary threads and helps keep the main boards tidy.
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Post by godhunter on Jun 29, 2008 19:55:41 GMT -5
^ Actually if you delete a post it doesn't lower your post count. see a way to increase post count without spam I see no real reason not to use the trash bin really. Its not like it hurts anyone, if your thread is trashed you can still find it and look through it, the posts remain for everyone to see if they so desire (grantd its hard to find what you're looking for), and it means that the staff can simply trash a thread instead of having to debate whether to delete it or lock it. I honestly can't think of any reason to not use the trash bin. Its simply another way of getting rid of excess/old threads *le shrug* As for the PM system...I always used that o.O Whenever I trashed a thread I always sent a PM to the creator of the thread telling them that their thread has been trashed. I don't really see a need to make it an ironclad rule for the staff to PM someone if they trash a thread. Its common sense that if your thread is missing check the trash bin and, as far as I know, there haven't been a whole lot of posts complaining about 'dissapearing' threads.
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Post by Chibi Chan-o on Jun 29, 2008 22:58:04 GMT -5
Besides, the trash bin is amusing to look through. XD
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Post by godhunter on Jun 29, 2008 23:13:08 GMT -5
True that xD
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