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Post by grecia on Nov 6, 2007 10:44:50 GMT -5
P.D.2 Frozen apology, I am a little embarrassed with you What happened, what did I do? Ha ha lol I wrote it wrong Did you do anything you do not ... , I mean those of the icons , I have to redeem myself, I need to get back my honor xD
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Post by frozenwind141 on Nov 6, 2007 10:53:24 GMT -5
Um! I'm not quite sure what you mean? You do know you can use any of the icons I make, it's why I made them so people can use them ^^
I'm not quite sure what you mean though?
Er, and yay, Puppetmaster this week ^^ We'll have good stuff to discuss soon.
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Post by Zenjamin on Nov 6, 2007 11:07:58 GMT -5
hey guys, is it just me, or to M&B go to the fourms, look at arguments against kataang or for zutara, and foil them?... even the "just for fun" arguments.
ZUTARA: "Zutara, its Iroh's cup of tea" Iroh to aang: "i think you are very wise to choose love and happiness"
Zutara: "katara has no romantic interest in aang" M&B: "this season, lets throw in some baby-blue, seductive, beadroom eyes while katara bumps uglies with aang on the dance floor"
Zutara: "but surely Taang will happen to free up katara" M&B: "lets develop Tokka a little bit more"
Zutara: "well... at least we still have sexyfine Zutara hair. nothing can touch that" M&B: "just for fun, lets make it obvious that katara likes the look of aang's hair and feels very self-concious about how aang feels about her own hair in return"
Zutara: "DAMMIT! ug!... ok guys, new plan. we are making a tactical retreat. our new slogan is Zutara, because the univirse loves proving us wrong... surely the universe will see this statement and reverse our fortunes... right?" M&B: "ya, i think were done here... so, how long do you think the comets effect should last?"
Zutara: "hello? univirse? are you there?"
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Post by grecia on Nov 6, 2007 11:38:36 GMT -5
Um! I'm not quite sure what you mean? You do know you can use any of the icons I make, it's why I made them so people can use them ^^ I'm not quite sure what you mean though? Yes, but usually the fans who want your icons ask permission and give you credit for this, I am a fan instead very distracted and a girl NOOb in this forum that he did not know the importance of the "credit" ...Well now are returning the Faults of the Past, again, I need to reedem myself, I need to get back my honor xD...it was hilarious ... I would like you to speak espanish could read the kind of excuses that say Zutaras in forums Latin America xD One of the evidence in trying to explain why "the Zutara was canon" was that in the episode of "Bato from the Water Tribe" Zuko dragged in a more sensitive Katara that Sokka, when they were captured xD ohh god! In that forum all their evidence are gems of comedy and irony.
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Post by Karatelover on Nov 6, 2007 11:54:32 GMT -5
You still mean Spanglish don't you? Sorry it's just really slow right this second. Nesisito mucho practico!
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Post by frozenwind141 on Nov 6, 2007 12:46:25 GMT -5
Yes, but usually the fans who want your icons ask permission and give you credit for this, I am a fan instead very distracted and a girl NOOb in this forum that he did not know the importance of the "credit" ...Well now are returning the Faults of the Past, again, I need to reedem myself, I need to get back my honor Noooo, I never need people to ask my permission to use my icons! Seriously, just one little line that says the icon was made by so and so. But really, its fine, I just ask credit because of past experience, nothing to get worked up about ^^;;
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Post by psylum on Nov 6, 2007 14:25:48 GMT -5
hey guys, is it just me, or to M&B go to the fourms, look at arguments against kataang or for zutara, and foil them?... even the "just for fun" arguments. ZUTARA: "Zutara, its Iroh's cup of tea" Iroh to aang: "i think you are very wise to choose love and happiness" Zutara: "katara has no romantic interest in aang" M&B: "this season, lets throw in some baby-blue, seductive, beadroom eyes while katara bumps uglies with aang on the dance floor" Zutara: "but surely Taang will happen to free up katara" M&B: "lets develop Tokka a little bit more" Zutara: "well... at least we still have sexyfine Zutara hair. nothing can touch that" M&B: "just for fun, lets make it obvious that katara likes the look of aang's hair and feels very self-concious about how aang feels about her own hair in return" Zutara: "DAMMIT! ug!... ok guys, new plan. we are making a tactical retreat. our new slogan is Zutara, because the univirse loves proving us wrong... surely the universe will see this statement and reverse our fortunes... right?" M&B: "ya, i think were done here... so, how long do you think the comets effect should last?" Zutara: "hello? univirse? are you there?" Mike and Bryan have no need to prove the people who made those comments wrong, because the people who make those comments are doing it themselves. *nods*
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Post by kaangluv on Nov 6, 2007 15:15:27 GMT -5
^ So true. Sometimes, for any topic, it's better to keep your mouth shut than to try to defend a ludicrous statement. In the end, it just makes you look stupid and your argument look weak. I <3 that Zutara thing! There are many, many Zutarians that I know that I really do love, but these quotes are applicable many members of that fandom and frankly, they never fail to make me giggle. Soo.. back on Kataang. Earlier, people were talking about evidence against Kataang that has now been disproved, especially the "Avatars can't love". Guru Pathik never told Aang he could not love Katara. He told him that he had to know when it was time to let her go. Roku could fall in love with and marry Ta Min. However, when the volcano started to explode, they both recognized that Roku had a duty to the people, and they separated hands. So really, I think some people will villanize the Guru too much; after seeing The Avatar and the Firelord, I think it becomes clear that Aang was the one who misunderstood. The Avatar can love and be loved, but the separation of man and spirit that exists within the one being means that the Avatar has almost "two lives". As a man, he can have a wife children. As the Avatar, he is the Great Bridge whose people are his sons and daughters. In this case, I think the meaning is that the bond an Avatar has with their spouse must be slightly different. To live compatibly with one another, they have to understand that they have split obligations. ........... Yeah, that's deep an' all...but what I really[/i] get from episode six is that it's now entirely possible, if not extremely probable that we'll get . . . . . . KATAANGBABIEZ!!!@1one! *glee* *Ahem* Other than that, what do you think about DoBS Kataangy-goodness? I think it's still a bit early for confessions, but maybe we'll get some little snippets?
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Post by Zenjamin on Nov 6, 2007 16:02:39 GMT -5
well, there have been talk of a pre-battle confession... but im thinking both of them will feel that a confession would be doing the other a dissirvise because both needs to keem his/her mind on th battle.
im thinking its gonna be a post-battle confession.
after the battle, and Azula has sprung her trap, the gaang and the remaining will scatter to the western air temple.
aang is being mopy and depressing. he starts feeling like he failed in his avatar duty for a second time. he starts talking about how it was a mistake that he was borne the avatar, how he is not worthy.
katara tries to convince him he is more then worthy.
Katara: "Aang, its not your fault. if i had stayed with the earth king, i might have been able to see that Azula was impersonating Suki, i could have prevented the earth king from telling azula about the invasion."
Aang: "dont even try try katara, you have done beyond what you were meant to do... but me Im the avatar, It is my Duty to use these powers to restore balaance... no, to prevent imbalance... if i had never run i could have stoped this war. if i had been strong enough i could have stopped azula, and if i had been smart enough i could have found Ozi yesterday... i am a fool, but destiny was a fool for choosing me."
Katara: Dont you say that! you are far from a foolish choice. you are trying to fix Roku's mistake and 100 years of war, with only 12 years of experence and less then a year as a avatar. it is because of who you are that we got this far at all. you have every quality the an avatar should have. destiny choose you for a reason.
Aang: ya, right.
Katara: Stop acting like i dont know what im talking about! your Brave, strong, determined, smart, you understand and care about people, warm, fun, handsom, and STOP saying that you should have stayed to fight 100 years agao! your needed here! becuase... *trails off, realizing what she has just said.*
Aang: *sitting up now* umm... katara? how does being "fun, warm, and handsome make me a better avatar?
Katara: *blushing* umm... well, I...
Aang: *now with a full smirk* and why do you think im needed here in the present?
Katara: Its.. just, if you had stayed...
Aang: *a softer voice* if it helps, ive had more then 12 years of experence, I turned 13 around the time you Brought me back... i really never found out a way to thank you properly for that by the way.
Katara: *blushing and trying to surpress a huge grin* cool It there, im not your "forever girl" just yet... by the way Aang, you talk in your sleep. *runs off*
shock is written accross aang's face, but he is surprised to find he is not embarassed. all he feels is joy at the unending possibilitys. aang gets out of bed and runs after Katara to claim his "birthday present"
ya. i suck at writing... i just had to get tht scene out of my head.
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Post by kaangluv on Nov 6, 2007 16:10:17 GMT -5
^ LULZ!
<3 for that.
"By that way, Aang, you talk in your sleep."
Can you imagine the look on his face?! XD
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Post by liz6363 on Nov 6, 2007 16:22:16 GMT -5
birthday present!? was that intended to be dirty? hahaha I liked that alot zenjamin. Karma for you! I can definetly see a post battle confession.... the only reason why I hope there won't be one is because there probably wouldn't be 2 confessions in the same episode and I was hoping for some Tokka loooove
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Post by Paraiba Ocean on Nov 6, 2007 16:36:35 GMT -5
The way you are presenting your argument against Zutara isn't exactly in the most respectful manner, Zenjamin. And I say this as a regular member, not the spec mod, so don't think I'm here going "LOLZ. I GOTS POWER SO STFU.".
Go ahead and disprove things, but at least make sure this doesn't become a little hole for you guys to go "lolz @ idiots" and not even give an opportunity for the rest of us to prove our theories. The top one was just a game the Zutarians were playing with sayings--it was by no means an argument for why that ship is definitely going to happen, etc. The same goes for the Zutarians, too, so if you see that, let me know. Mkay?
Carry on. :3
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Post by mindbender18 on Nov 6, 2007 16:58:22 GMT -5
hey guys, is it just me, or to M&B go to the fourms, look at arguments against kataang or for zutara, and foil them?... even the "just for fun" arguments. ZUTARA: "Zutara, its Iroh's cup of tea" Iroh to aang: "i think you are very wise to choose love and happiness" Zutara: "katara has no romantic interest in aang" M&B: "this season, lets throw in some baby-blue, seductive, beadroom eyes while katara bumps uglies with aang on the dance floor" Zutara: "but surely Taang will happen to free up katara" M&B: "lets develop Tokka a little bit more" Zutara: "well... at least we still have sexyfine Zutara hair. nothing can touch that" M&B: "just for fun, lets make it obvious that katara likes the look of aang's hair and feels very self-concious about how aang feels about her own hair in return" Zutara: "DAMMIT! ug!... ok guys, new plan. we are making a tactical retreat. our new slogan is Zutara, because the univirse loves proving us wrong... surely the universe will see this statement and reverse our fortunes... right?" M&B: "ya, i think were done here... so, how long do you think the comets effect should last?" Zutara: "hello? univirse? are you there?" you're forgetting the "Katara is too motherly to Aang" wank argument. The Runaway confirmed the fact that Katara is motherly to everyone, even to her older brother. Meaning that even if she was in a relationship with Jet, Haru, Zuko, or Ozai xD, she would be just as motherly
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Post by kaangluv on Nov 6, 2007 17:04:47 GMT -5
^ Thanks Paraiba. Sorry. Yeeaaazzz....It was guilty fun. Maybe we should try to be a little bit more mature in our conversations. Tee hee. . . . . . But it was entertaining. Let's try to get away from "why Zutara is wrong" and more towards "Evidence for Kataang/why we like it". It's just a slight difference, but it's the mood of the thing.
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Post by Holierthanthou on Nov 6, 2007 17:38:43 GMT -5
^ So true. Sometimes, for any topic, it's better to keep your mouth shut than to try to defend a ludicrous statement. In the end, it just makes you look stupid and your argument look weak. I <3 that Zutara thing! There are many, many Zutarians that I know that I really do love, but these quotes are applicable many members of that fandom and frankly, they never fail to make me giggle. Soo.. back on Kataang. Earlier, people were talking about evidence against Kataang that has now been disproved, especially the "Avatars can't love". Guru Pathik never told Aang he could not love Katara. He told him that he had to know when it was time to let her go. Roku could fall in love with and marry Ta Min. However, when the volcano started to explode, they both recognized that Roku had a duty to the people, and they separated hands. So really, I think some people will villanize the Guru too much; after seeing The Avatar and the Firelord, I think it becomes clear that Aang was the one who misunderstood. The Avatar can love and be loved, but the separation of man and spirit that exists within the one being means that the Avatar has almost "two lives". As a man, he can have a wife children. As the Avatar, he is the Great Bridge whose people are his sons and daughters. In this case, I think the meaning is that the bond an Avatar has with their spouse must be slightly different. To live compatibly with one another, they have to understand that they have split obligations. ........... Yeah, that's deep an' all...but what I really[/i] get from episode six is that it's now entirely possible, if not extremely probable that we'll get . . . . . . KATAANGBABIEZ!!!@1one! *glee* *Ahem* Other than that, what do you think about DoBS Kataangy-goodness? I think it's still a bit early for confessions, but maybe we'll get some little snippets? [/quote] I think people try to work around the Guru a bit too much. No offense to the above argument, as it could be completely sound, but I'm not convinced. We don't know exactly what the Guru meant, but it was pretty clear that the Guru expected Aang to completely give up at least some level of attachment Katara. And although "The only way is to let her go" does completely NOT equal "the only way is to stop loving her" it also does not completely equal "The only way is to know when to perform your duty". One thing that gets me is the scene before when the Guru tels him to let his attachments (Katara) "Float down the stream...forgotten." Also, all the other Chakras were blocked by completely negative emotions. Fear, guilt, lies, grief, and all the others. All of which were expected to be completely repulsed, not cooperated with. I just don't see the last one being any different. Now, obviously the Guru is not a villain, he was trying to help. And as we can see form the Avatar and the Firelord, Roku was in love, and had children. The only thing about that which doesn't completely nail the coffin in my stance is that Roku was never explicitly stated to have gone through the Chakras, and what's more, Aang was not surprised or relieved by the fact that Roku was married, which I would expect he would be if he realized this meant his ideas about the Guru were wrong. There wasn't even a mention of any sort of spiritual journey for the Avatar State in Roku's flashbacks, although I suppose that would be irrelevant to his relationship to Sozin. I do like your idea though, and I really liked the part where Roku parted with his wife so that he could do his duty and she would be safe. It's so touching. *wipes tear*
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