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Post by Amira on Sept 20, 2006 22:59:45 GMT -5
There is a cause that their ways were often crossed, since apparently, so far, both have been going for the same place. Their ways are parallel. From the characters is unintentional, but for the creators it is very important and in purpose. Zuko is a character very important for the development of Aang. And that is something to which they want to arrive. But everything has a duration and an order, another code in the classic narrative. That it is what history makes plausible. So far we must continue seeing the advances the story and to try to guess that it is what is going to happen. We are the considered public "expectedly". that we have a cognitive or informative advantage with respect to the personage (the hero). We know more than he. The narrator, indeed wants that we try to guess that it will happen. The "Effect of transparency", which is a form to tell, is a technique where everything appears so logical, so natural, that it must be that and it cannot change. Because in a chapter they show Sokka saving a village using its instinct and in another one drugging with cactus juice. It seems illogical that the Sokka of the chapter in which saved the village is drugged himself in another one, thus happened, and seemed totally possible. That is transparency. As aid much in the unfolding of the personages. And of this same form Zuko it is going to join the group and Zutara goes possible. Thanks in order of the transparency. Element that is worth and is the base of the classic narrative. Since this constructs the realism. And this is likely. And therefore, if Zutara happens, although it is in two chapters, is possible. Reason why already I explained. That it is by the same in which is sustained Yue/Sokka and Sokka/Suki (also two chapters, very distant one of the other....). That may be all well and good and it was interesting to read and I understand what your teacher is saying (I have a specialty in Concept and Story Development with my BFA). But MY personal preference is that I would rather not see Zuko join because of the reasons I stated: I like that he has his own story arc, that he has his own issues to work through, that he is evolving in his own way, and that more people added to the Gaang would in my opinion make the Gaang too big and too many characters to concentrate on at one time. But having Iroh and Zuko seperate, the show jumps back and forth between the Gaang and them, breaking up the screen time that both groups have and keeping it at least to me interesting.
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Post by lunachaos on Sept 20, 2006 23:05:33 GMT -5
There is a cause that their ways were often crossed, since apparently, so far, both have been going for the same place. Their ways are parallel. From the characters is unintentional, but for the creators it is very important and in purpose. Zuko is a character very important for the development of Aang. And that is something to which they want to arrive. But everything has a duration and an order, another code in the classic narrative. That it is what history makes plausible. So far we must continue seeing the advances the story and to try to guess that it is what is going to happen. We are the considered public "expectedly". that we have a cognitive or informative advantage with respect to the personage (the hero). We know more than he. The narrator, indeed wants that we try to guess that it will happen. The "Effect of transparency", which is a form to tell, is a technique where everything appears so logical, so natural, that it must be that and it cannot change. Because in a chapter they show Sokka saving a village using its instinct and in another one drugging with cactus juice. It seems illogical that the Sokka of the chapter in which saved the village is drugged himself in another one, thus happened, and seemed totally possible. That is transparency. As aid much in the unfolding of the personages. And of this same form Zuko it is going to join the group and Zutara goes possible. Thanks in order of the transparency. Element that is worth and is the base of the classic narrative. Since this constructs the realism. And this is likely. And therefore, if Zutara happens, although it is in two chapters, is possible. Reason why already I explained. That it is by the same in which is sustained Yue/Sokka and Sokka/Suki (also two chapters, very distant one of the other....). That may be all well and good and it was interesting to read and I understand what your teacher is saying (I have a specialty in Concept and Story Development with my BFA). But MY personal preference is that I would rather not see Zuko join because of the reasons I stated: I like that he has his own story arc, that he has his own issues to work through, that he is evolving in his own way, and that more people added to the Gaang would in my opinion make the Gaang too big and too many characters to concentrate on at one time. But having Iroh and Zuko seperate, the show jumps back and forth between the Gaang and them, breaking up the screen time that both groups have and keeping it at least to me interesting. I like that too, and it's the perfect time for character development, in my opinion. But I also think that it would far more interesting with them all together, former enemies, working and living toether. We've seen a lot with Zuko and Iroh together, but we need some time with them with the Gaang, I think. It would add more depth to their character, having them interact with the other protaganists. We'd still have that different shifts between groups because there's Azula, Ty Lee, and Mai now ;D
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Post by Amira on Sept 20, 2006 23:10:08 GMT -5
At some point seeing them all together might be good, but I'd almost want to see it towards the end of the series. I don't think Zuko is ready for the Gaang yet and I don't think the Gaang is ready for Zuko. There are still somethings that both need to go through and accomplish both on their journey and within themselves before meeting up (if at all). There are unresolved things that I think need to be concluded before any sort of collaboration could successfully take place.
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Post by lunachaos on Sept 20, 2006 23:16:23 GMT -5
At some point seeing them all together might be good, but I'd almost want to see it towards the end of the series. I don't think Zuko is ready for the Gaang yet and I don't think the Gaang is ready for Zuko. There are still somethings that both need to go through and accomplish both on their journey and within themselves before meeting up (if at all). There are unresolved things that I think need to be concluded before any sort of collaboration could successfully take place. Of course. I wouldn't like it as much if it was shoved in our face like some things are. I like the gradual arc of things. It makes it more believing.
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Post by Amira on Sept 20, 2006 23:17:28 GMT -5
At some point seeing them all together might be good, but I'd almost want to see it towards the end of the series. I don't think Zuko is ready for the Gaang yet and I don't think the Gaang is ready for Zuko. There are still somethings that both need to go through and accomplish both on their journey and within themselves before meeting up (if at all). There are unresolved things that I think need to be concluded before any sort of collaboration could successfully take place. Of course. I wouldn't like it as much if it was shoved in our face like some things are. I like the gradual arc of things. It makes it more believing. In that I will agree with you.
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Post by lunachaos on Sept 20, 2006 23:21:43 GMT -5
Of course. I wouldn't like it as much if it was shoved in our face like some things are. I like the gradual arc of things. It makes it more believing. In that I will agree with you. Yayz I love agreeing with people of different beliefs/likes ;D
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Post by Amira on Sept 20, 2006 23:24:58 GMT -5
In that I will agree with you. Yayz I love agreeing with people of different beliefs/likes ;D Yay harmony! That's the one thing I like about Avatar, nothing seems rushed or done at the expense of the characters or the story. Everything seems to have its own time and its own place and it coincides with the characters and their personalities. Everything fits, even filler episodes. And looking back now, some of those eps have played a part in the characters understanding their roles or who they are.
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Post by lunachaos on Sept 20, 2006 23:27:12 GMT -5
Yayz I love agreeing with people of different beliefs/likes ;D Yay harmony! That's the one thing I like about Avatar, nothing seems rushed or done at the expense of the characters or the story. Everything seems to have its own time and its own place and it coincides with the characters and their personalities. Everything fits, even filler episodes. And looking back now, some of those eps have played a part in the characters understanding their roles or who they are. Definitely. As much as I love the action-packed episodes, the fillers are the ones I really enjoy. They make you watch simply because they are there for one reason: information or character development. They wer the important episodes, and I like them the best ;D
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Post by Amira on Sept 20, 2006 23:29:04 GMT -5
Yay harmony! That's the one thing I like about Avatar, nothing seems rushed or done at the expense of the characters or the story. Everything seems to have its own time and its own place and it coincides with the characters and their personalities. Everything fits, even filler episodes. And looking back now, some of those eps have played a part in the characters understanding their roles or who they are. Definitely. As much as I love the action-packed episodes, the fillers are the ones I really enjoy. They make you watch simply because they are there for one reason: information or character development. They wer the important episodes, and I like them the best ;D Like "The Storm." A key filler ep. Or "Zuko Alone." We wouldn't have such an understanding without those. Or "The Great Divide." LOL In that we learned Aang is an accomplished liar in a pinch. And many of them have served to drive shipping wars...LOL...like "CoTL."
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Post by rocio on Sept 20, 2006 23:35:11 GMT -5
Is so wonderful that reached an agreement.
I also am sure that Zuko not yet is ready to join the gang. But at least he already admitted that it is not good traveling alone. That already is an advance.
So far single I hope that he returns to be with the group and to give one better and clear image of him. In order to take a step to one better relation among them. n_n
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Post by trustno1 on Sept 20, 2006 23:40:17 GMT -5
Definitely. As much as I love the action-packed episodes, the fillers are the ones I really enjoy. They make you watch simply because they are there for one reason: information or character development. They wer the important episodes, and I like them the best ;D Like "The Storm." A key filler ep. Or "Zuko Alone." We wouldn't have such an understanding without those. Or "The Great Divide." LOL In that we learned Aang is an accomplished liar in a pinch. And many of them have served to drive shipping wars...LOL...like "CoTL." Inside into the characters is ok, but I like it more, when the episode pushes the character development or the relationships between two characters forward. I liked "Blue Spirit" for this reason, because the ending was a big surprise. I'm not talking about Zuko being the "Blue Spirit", but him actually thinking about Aangs "could we have been friends?". It was really great, because it showed that Aang understood Zukos situation to a certain grade and that Zuko sees his "duty" to the FN not only as a chance for returning home,but as a burden as well. A very beautiful ending when Aangs says all sad "I guess not." (answering Sokkas question if he made new friends) and Zuko gazing saddly at the FN flag.
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Post by rocio on Sept 21, 2006 0:13:49 GMT -5
This one is very essential. Because later he gives the back to the flag. And here According to "Intrigue of predestination" , which I consider all season 1, indicates again that more ahead he will give the back, not to its country, but to everything what he was forced to believe until now and beginning to make the decisions that he truly feel. In order to thus be able to recover what it corresponds to him. Maybe, with the aid of Aang, since that act was caused by the boy.
(dang test,........it is make say all this...........boring things...)
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Post by firebender36 on Sept 22, 2006 16:24:08 GMT -5
Reason why I am zutara is because of all the conflicts and charater devlopment it would cause thats nice. so you like war do you?
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Post by elystia on Sept 22, 2006 17:20:54 GMT -5
Reason why I am zutara is because of all the conflicts and charater devlopment it would cause thats nice. so you like war do you? Ouch. I honestly doubt that's what the intended meaning was. Conflict doesn't always equate to war. With Zutara, I can see the two of them snarking at each other like many couples do. Quarreling is conflict.
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