Alleluia
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Post by Alleluia on Jun 12, 2006 0:27:19 GMT -5
Well, almighty, number 1 in that list is off. And, thus, the following steps are null and void. Zuko and Katara would not "miraculously" fall in love. You make it sound like Zutarians think they will just look at each other in the right light one day and go gushy and that'll be the start of a bUdIfUl R0mAnz!!!11!! Which isn't the case.
I believe that, with the proper character development, they will grow to be allies, then freinds, then romance. That is how most of us see Zutara occuring, as far as I know(and any zutarians out there who disagree, please say so, we'd like to know if you exist. lol), and I don't know where you are getting the idea that there will be anything miraculous and sudden and.. well, undeveloped in that manner in Zutara. This seems to be a subtle undercurrent to the veiwing of Zutara that is prevalent on the boards recently and I would like to know where it came from. I mean, is it the bad fic? Because, honestly, *I* hate that too. It is sucky story telling. But, the writers won't tell it like that so canon!Zutara wouldn't look like that.
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Post by almighty on Jun 12, 2006 2:20:00 GMT -5
Ahem... let me quote myself again.
I wasn't saying that that is what Zutara will be. I was outlining what happened on many of the shows that I have seen which what may happen to Zutara. Don't forget that the list also has a satirical tone to it, which I guess can be misinterpreted to something more.... mean?
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Post by Confettie on Jun 12, 2006 13:28:42 GMT -5
I think if Zutara is going to happen they have about ten episode left to start it off. If Zutara is going to be so well develop it should have already happen the series is half over. Also I agree with Almighty the Kataang relationship is different for the mere fact that Katara the girl is older. I think its a great message, women should date anyone they want too even if the boy is younger. I know a lot of people who are older then their boyfriends my friend Lisa is three years older then her boyfriend and they're doing great. My mom friend has a boyfriend seven years her junior. Of course all these women are over twenty .
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Post by girlunderglass on Jun 12, 2006 13:47:11 GMT -5
I think if Zutara is going to happen they have about ten episode left to start it off. If Zutara is going to be so well develop it should have already happen the series is half over. Same reason why I feel Kataang will not happen. Katara is already by Aang's side, day after day. Yes, we know how Aang feels, but Katara hasn't made any motion to go beyond freindship with Aang. The questionable kiss in COTL was her idea.. whether it happened or not, after the crystals lit up, she ran for an exit. She did not stand and linger for a moment like Aang did. If she had feelings beyond freindship, she would have taken a moment to absorb the fact she just kissed the guy she loved. Don't get me wrong, she is extremely loyal as a friend and protector of Aang.. I just don't know if she'll ever see him as more than a friend or member of her family. Now I did not post this to proclaim Zutara over Kataang or Tong or Soko or Meiko or any ship for that matter.. until a romance of any sort happens- we're all wrong. But that should not mean that any of us gives up hope or should stop cheering for our ship. I think it is good for a change that we are explaining why we feel an opposing ship will not work instead of fighting over details of why we push our ships. I think we all might get a lil insight of how we all feel or why we came to our conclusions.
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Post by Avatar Pooface on Jun 12, 2006 13:48:57 GMT -5
Sorry for asking this, since I don't really remember the episode, but is Meng the Bumi-looking little girl?
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Post by girlunderglass on Jun 12, 2006 14:01:48 GMT -5
Courtesy of firebender.com That is Meng.
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Post by Fender Bender on Jun 12, 2006 14:55:05 GMT -5
It is indeed good. Something someone said about predicitibility earlier (I think it was almighty?) made me think of Digimon. I admit it. I watched the show when I was younger. But I really liked how they had a later episode showing everyone's children. Only one or two of the couples that I thought would happen did, and that was kind of nice. They all married people who weren't ever featured and who didn't play parts in the series. It's a slim chance, but maybe that's something we will find here?
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Post by almighty on Jun 12, 2006 15:59:44 GMT -5
I think it is good for a change that we are explaining why we feel an opposing ship will not work instead of fighting over details of why we push our ships. I think we all might get a lil insight of how we all feel or why we came to our conclusions. Word of the wise. Yes, I like puncturing holes in ships to show that it might not work... but it is insightful. Fender Bender: Actually, it might happen, but then that might make people question "why would Katara get with someone else if she has __ (insert name here)__. It could be.
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Post by Amira on Jun 12, 2006 16:28:12 GMT -5
I think it is good for a change that we are explaining why we feel an opposing ship will not work instead of fighting over details of why we push our ships. I think we all might get a lil insight of how we all feel or why we came to our conclusions. Word of the wise. Yes, I like puncturing holes in ships to show that it might not work... but it is insightful. Fender Bender: Actually, it might happen, but then that might make people question "why would Katara get with someone else if she has __ (insert name here)__. It could be. But the holes punctured should be valid and not based on something biased or misconstrued. And that goes for all ships.
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Alleluia
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Post by Alleluia on Jun 12, 2006 18:05:27 GMT -5
Sorry for asking this, since I don't really remember the episode, but is Meng the Bumi-looking little girl? Ah, so I am not the only one who thought Meng resembled Bumi a litle bit, then? Cool. lol @almighty, yes it did come off as a little mean, to me. Clearly satirical, but still a bit mean. But I wasn't talking about just you when I mentioned what seems to be a prevailing veiw of Zutara lately. It is just that your post seemed to exemplify it at the time. Others have articulated the same thing, too. I apologize if I singled you out. (EDIT: I just noticed, I am "Spirit Aang"! Fear me! W00t! lol)
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Post by almighty on Jun 12, 2006 18:12:02 GMT -5
I apologize, Alleluia, for sounding harsh.
I, too, was also rubbed the wrong way when people keep saying that Kataang will go no where and is so predictable that it just couldn't be possible. Of course, my post was driven by sheer annoyance.
As for singling me out, I'm used to it. It has happened to me many many times on this forum so I'm pretty much accustomed to people "singling" me out.
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Post by Revitalize Book on Jun 12, 2006 20:37:04 GMT -5
As for singling me out, I'm used to it. It has happened to me many many times on this forum so I'm pretty much accustomed to people "singling" me out. Bulltrash. What are members singling you our for Almighty? This seriously- that sort of thing ticks me off, because it causes a lot of bad tension. Your stating your opinion- and you have a right to; whether it is the norm or not. Jeez...Wtheck? >( Alleluia: I really don't see an undercurrent. If there is one for Zutara, there is one for every ship. Just a month or so a go I saw...*Shakes head* No, anyway, there is an undercurrent for each ship. And its quite possible- with some lack of posting, that those who have post are not fans of Zutara, and it seems there is an undercurrent when there is just a lack of posting from pro-Zutara members. Or it could just be a strong-held opinion of Zutara right now from a few members...*Shrugs thoughtfully* Hopefully, the undercurrent you feel will go away. But to be honest, I've seen more undercurrents for every other ship but Zutara. It doesn't make it okay for it to happen to Zutara, it does make it okay- I'm not sure. .... Dudes, we're-like- so far from 'powerful bender' right now...xD But to throw something in there: Gyatsu is a powerful bender. And Iroh. Yeahs.@_@
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Post by gambitia on Jun 12, 2006 21:51:21 GMT -5
Dudes, we're-like- so far from 'powerful bender' right now...xD But to throw something in there: Gyatsu is a powerful bender. And Iroh. Yeahs.@_@ Katara and Gyatsu. The ship to end all ships...if only they hadn't been born 100 years apart.
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Post by theweasleyboys on Jun 12, 2006 21:55:26 GMT -5
Dudes, we're-like- so far from 'powerful bender' right now...xD But to throw something in there: Gyatsu is a powerful bender. And Iroh. Yeahs.@_@ Katara and Gyatsu. The ship to end all ships...if only they hadn't been born 100 years apart. *Smiles and nods* Something tells me they'd get along rather well, maybe even swap their nation's history a few times...yeah...*stops herself before getting too off-topic* Nice one Gambitia, I'll stop rambling now.
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Post by Revitalize Book on Jun 12, 2006 22:27:31 GMT -5
Dudes, we're-like- so far from 'powerful bender' right now...xD But to throw something in there: Gyatsu is a powerful bender. And Iroh. Yeahs.@_@ Katara and Gyatsu. The ship to end all ships...if only they hadn't been born 100 years apart. I can completely see them with a mentor-student relationship that's really positive. xD Gyatsu would probably value Kataras input, and Gyatsu could bring out Katara giggles/laugh, and a bit more of her humor. *But younger Gyatsu is still with me- and old Gyatsu is my mentor! Banzai! xD* I'd love to see them interact...(But if Gyatsu had trained Katara as a Waterbending teacher instead of Pakku, would Katara be like Aang? O.0) Mentioning Pakku, pairing him with Katara scares me. >.< I thought she was pretty rude to him-xD- but...*Shiver* (Not that pairing her with old Gyatsu ain't scary either...) But I saw a fanficition, with the description of PakkuxKatara, and Pakku was saying: "Your better than Kana- I love you Katara! Just-" And, with that simple sentence, I was scared away.>.> xD It frightens me much more than Zhao. O,o (But ZukoX Zhao is seriously scary! xD)
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