inuyatta
FN Aang
The joy of SoKo comes at a heavy price...my sleep, for example
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Song
May 3, 2008 1:36:39 GMT -5
Post by inuyatta on May 3, 2008 1:36:39 GMT -5
Point remains, Song was going to be branded a h0 just for trying to reach out to Zuko. It doesn't matter where that scar would be. XD
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nandireya
Zuko's Path to Redemption Mod
...tickled pink...
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Song
May 3, 2008 2:05:47 GMT -5
Post by nandireya on May 3, 2008 2:05:47 GMT -5
If Song has been labelled thus for merely trying to touch Zuko's scar where does that leave Jin, katara and Mai? They all did far more than to try and touch him...
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inuyatta
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Song
May 3, 2008 2:13:30 GMT -5
Post by inuyatta on May 3, 2008 2:13:30 GMT -5
Trust me, they all get that flack too. Song just got it worst because she was the first to try.
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nandireya
Zuko's Path to Redemption Mod
...tickled pink...
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Song
May 3, 2008 2:19:40 GMT -5
Post by nandireya on May 3, 2008 2:19:40 GMT -5
No one's good enough for Zuko I guess...
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inuyatta
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Song
May 3, 2008 2:49:47 GMT -5
Post by inuyatta on May 3, 2008 2:49:47 GMT -5
That certainly seems to be the mindset of rabid fangirls. XD
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Firework
Avatar Aang
Free like a butterfly instead of a flying boar... butterflies are prettier anyway.
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Song
May 4, 2008 11:16:49 GMT -5
Post by Firework on May 4, 2008 11:16:49 GMT -5
Trust me, they all get that flack too. Song just got it worst because she was the first to try. That's true, and she was a one time character while Jin at least had commercials and her mysterious picture to warn us beforehand. Many fans were waiting for Katara to reach out to Zuko since the first episode- opposites attract and whatnot. But Song just popped in out of nowhere with no commercials to give us warning; not too mention, Zuko technically rejected her many times- turning down dinner, not letting her touch his scar (makes sense but still), and stealing her ostrich-horse.
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inuyatta
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The joy of SoKo comes at a heavy price...my sleep, for example
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Song
May 5, 2008 13:31:30 GMT -5
Post by inuyatta on May 5, 2008 13:31:30 GMT -5
Jin had a summer's wait to get used to the idea of her--Song only had a week, back when Nick still showed previews (screw you too, Nick). It didn't matter that Zuko rejected her outwardly; she still got through to him, even if he was trying hard not to let her. The fact is that she shared fairly intimate screentime with Zuko, and fanbrats didn't like it--so the insults started flying. Which is quite unfair, as she's the most well-adjusted figure on the show. Zuko could have really benefitted from a deeper relationship with her: but that's fine. She's not meant to be his babysitter. He can go back as he is now and apologize. Maybe they can start something after that.
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aurawind
Iroh
Proud supporter of Jai !!
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Song
May 5, 2008 16:28:48 GMT -5
Post by aurawind on May 5, 2008 16:28:48 GMT -5
And Soko will have a choice!! <3
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Song
May 6, 2008 0:20:32 GMT -5
Post by Victim ~*of *~Circumstances on May 6, 2008 0:20:32 GMT -5
Wait, people didn't like Song? Either I'm oblivious or just don't care but I never knew people didn't like her.
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inuyatta
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Song
May 6, 2008 2:06:02 GMT -5
Post by inuyatta on May 6, 2008 2:06:02 GMT -5
At the beginning, the rabid fantards hated Song because she got rather close with their pweshush Zuzukins. =p She had the most impact on Zuko's character out of his potential romantic interests, and while that doesn't seem to inspire hate now (because of how Zuko has grown), the more rabid shippers will bash her to high heaven.
Fortunately, I think the AWS caused the hate to dissipate a bit.
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Firework
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Song
May 7, 2008 0:49:34 GMT -5
Post by Firework on May 7, 2008 0:49:34 GMT -5
It's rather disturbing how fan girls react to someone like Song who had nothing but good intentions (even if mingled with romantic interest). Just look at Mai, no one seemed to mind her until the season three trailer came out and then there was an attack upon the ship of Maiko. Even worse was her dislike of the color orange.
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inuyatta
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Song
May 7, 2008 1:54:56 GMT -5
Post by inuyatta on May 7, 2008 1:54:56 GMT -5
LOL, Mai was villified for her hatred of orange. I think the real upset with Mai and Maiko was the fact that 1.) Rabid fangirls think Zuko's too good for everyone, and 2.) Mai is still a 'bad' guy and 3.) Maiko just popped up on screen without any buildup or reasoning. I'm gonna lean on there being heavy emphasis on point 1 though. Really, Zuko's got a terrible history with women: Song- Stole her chocobo Jin - Left her alone in the bad part of town Katara - Helped in nearly getting Aang killed Mai - Left her in an inescapable prison with his crazy sister, after dumping her in person (when he did it via 'Dear John' letter before) . Methinks that until Zuko's mommy issues are settled, just have him make amends so that he's on good terms with everyone and end the show so that the viewer can decide for themselves what his fate is. XD Actually, that's probably what they'll end up doing. I believe that still counts as a spoiler...until the ep airs...
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Firework
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Song
May 8, 2008 0:51:38 GMT -5
Post by Firework on May 8, 2008 0:51:38 GMT -5
LOL, Mai was villified for her hatred of orange. I think the real upset with Mai and Maiko was the fact that 1.) Rabid fangirls think Zuko's too good for everyone, and 2.) Mai is still a 'bad' guy and 3.) Maiko just popped up on screen without any buildup or reasoning. I'm gonna lean on there being heavy emphasis on point 1 though. Really, Zuko's got a terrible history with women: Song- Stole her chocobo Jin - Left her alone in the bad part of town Katara - Helped in nearly getting Aang killed Mai - Left her in an inescapable prison with his crazy sister, after dumping her in person (when he did it via 'Dear John' letter before) . Methinks that until Zuko's mommy issues are settled, just have him make amends so that he's on good terms with everyone and end the show so that the viewer can decide for themselves what his fate is. XD Actually, that's probably what they'll end up doing. I believe that still counts as a spoiler...until the ep airs...I still find this fan girl obsession disturbing and pathetic- they're fictional people and while I can cry over HP character deaths I never felt compelled to bite off the head of someone who doesn't like Harry because I can understand why people can't stand him. Song just did what any rabid Zuko fan girl and their Mary Sues would do and yet rather than embrace Song as a canonical avatar for themselves, they loathe her. It's just so strange to me. I used to have a crush on Harry but I didn't hate Hermione for being his best girl friend nor hate Ginny (though the romance was really cheap). Mai's new behavior saved her butt in my eyes and while I think it's unbelievable someone can hold in their emotions for so long with no real outlet (that one time in The Beach was so brief), I think it shows that Mai can be as passionate (and more calm and understanding to Zuko) than Katara. My dad even agrees with me so score one for me, score negative 22 for Katara.
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inuyatta
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Song
May 8, 2008 1:11:32 GMT -5
Post by inuyatta on May 8, 2008 1:11:32 GMT -5
Get used to it, it's in every fandom. XD I didn't find Mai's actions to be particularly amazing, since it changes absolutely nothing about her character since her debut--she cares about no one but Zuko and herself. Not much growth there. I think the real gold in that scene was her reaction to Ty Lee making the same sacrifice for her. I think the reason Song got more love than hate was the fact that she wasn't a fighter. Jin didn't get as much flak because I don't think people took her as a serious love interest of Zuko's since she's pretty much a filler character. After all, most mary sues can do anything and everything--Song's a healer, not a fighter--so the dumber fanbrats are going to label her 'not good enough' for Zuko, when in reality, she was too good for him. Most fanbrats are really young though--not really old enough to acknowledge that there are different types of strength, and not all of them involve how well you can floor a guy or how sparkly your magic/bending skillz are.
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kaibasgirl
Ba Sing Se Azula
The Sokkla Addict
Replace ships with fruit and that's exactly what you get.
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Song
May 8, 2008 1:15:10 GMT -5
Post by kaibasgirl on May 8, 2008 1:15:10 GMT -5
Really? I don't recall the firelight fountain being in a particularly bad neighborhood
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