Ana
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Aang
Jul 21, 2008 22:42:26 GMT -5
Post by Ana on Jul 21, 2008 22:42:26 GMT -5
Really, I love Aang the most and the finale just solidified that. Aang is a person who is true to himself in the end. He knew he couldn't take a life. So, despite the people he loves and past Avatars saying otherwise, he found his own way and shaped his own destiny.
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Maylene
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Aang
Jul 21, 2008 23:12:19 GMT -5
Post by Maylene on Jul 21, 2008 23:12:19 GMT -5
^ I wholeheartedly agree. ^_^
Aang in the finale made me respect him a lot more.
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Aang
Jul 22, 2008 9:52:37 GMT -5
Post by liz6363 on Jul 22, 2008 9:52:37 GMT -5
I've alwalsy loved Aang a little more then was healthy, and after the Finale I just can't get enough of him. I mean, he's the sweetest character, the most adorable, and by far the most impressive bender (in my opinion). How can you not love him? He's so innocent and kind, even when he holds the responsibility of the world and such incredibly power.
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Aang
Jul 24, 2008 13:41:08 GMT -5
Post by Katara7 on Jul 24, 2008 13:41:08 GMT -5
Aang is healthy, strong, smart, brave, cute, funny, and awesome! He is my fav character!
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Aang
Jul 24, 2008 18:11:35 GMT -5
Post by paleiko on Jul 24, 2008 18:11:35 GMT -5
I don't get why everyone claims that his past lives said he should kill the Fire Lord. They said:
Roku: Be decisive.
Simple. If he hesitates, the Firelord will use this as an advantage.
Kyoshi: Justice will bring peace.
Remember what Iroh said? Iroh killing the Firelord wouldn't be seen as justice. The Avatar has to end the war.
Kuruk: Actively shape your own destiny.
This is what he did after all, right?
Yangchen: He can't achieve enlightenment the way the Air Nomads tought him, because his duty is to the world and he has to do whatever it takes to protect the world.
This also means that part of his inner conflict (Avatar vs. Airnomad) can't be solved anyway, which is something that he has to learn and accept.
All this doesn't mean "You have to kill him no matter what!", because all of this is true in a very general sense. Aang just thought that there was no other way, because they didn't say something like "Break his arms and legs and throw him into prison!". They offered him wisdom, not a solution. And I don't think that they're meant to offer a solution.
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Saylisk
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Aang
Jul 24, 2008 18:16:40 GMT -5
Post by Saylisk on Jul 24, 2008 18:16:40 GMT -5
I've alwalsy loved Aang a little more then was healthy, and after the Finale I just can't get enough of him. I mean, he's the sweetest character, the most adorable, and by far the most impressive bender (in my opinion). How can you not love him? He's so innocent and kind, even when he holds the responsibility of the world and such incredibly power. I agree, If you hate Aang, Your soul will be corrupted into an evil gross thing that is lifeless and dead.
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Aang
Jul 24, 2008 23:12:26 GMT -5
Post by dragonflly on Jul 24, 2008 23:12:26 GMT -5
I don't get why everyone claims that his past lives said he should kill the Fire Lord. They said: Roku: Be decisive. Simple. If he hesitates, the Firelord will use this as an advantage. Kyoshi: Justice will bring peace. Remember what Iroh said? Iroh killing the Firelord wouldn't be seen as justice. The Avatar has to end the war. Kuruk: Actively shape your own destiny. This is what he did after all, right? Yangchen: He can't achieve enlightenment the way the Air Nomads tought him, because his duty is to the world and he has to do whatever it takes to protect the world. This also means that part of his inner conflict (Avatar vs. Airnomad) can't be solved anyway, which is something that he has to learn and accept. All this doesn't mean "You have to kill him no matter what!", because all of this is true in a very general sense. Aang just thought that there was no other way, because they didn't say something like "Break his arms and legs and throw him into prison!". They offered him wisdom, not a solution. And I don't think that they're meant to offer a solution. ^^It's pretty much implied with each Avatar. I'm just glad that Aang didn't actually run away like what was implied by alot of people. He did alot of growing up, which was nice to see. He's totally adorable, who couldn't love those big eyes? He just like Zuko, found his own way. He stuck to his morals and beliefs, which is important. He wasn't swayed by anyone, and never stopped looking for another way. Although, that is also one thing that bothered me. But, I do think that they gave him too much of a happy ending. He got everything, how often does that happen? NEVER. I know it's a cartoon for kids, but really. Aang is such a sweet boy, such a little boy, yet so grown up. I think Aang's responsiblity and how he handled it was a big thing for me. at first he was very irresponsible, and childish, but he stepped up and grew up. He really turned his act around in this season, and I liked it alot.
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Aang
Jul 26, 2008 6:20:54 GMT -5
Post by paleiko on Jul 26, 2008 6:20:54 GMT -5
I don't think so. Maybe it's just because it seems like there is no other choice than killing him or doing nothing, but that's not true. Sure, Roku regrets that he didn't stop Sozin, but I think "I should have killed Sozin and didn't do it, so you have to kill Ozai!" is just to simple. And I don't think that Roku has to blame himself for not being decisive. He fought his best friend without hesitating. Killing Sozin without a chance for redemption would have been OOC for an Avatar.
The main point why I think that one should try to see it different is that they could have said "You don't have a choice!", but they didn't. And after all, they are the Avatar. I don't think that they would recommend killing someone without any hesitation.
I don't think the ending was too happy, but it lacked realism in a few parts. How is Zuko supposed to be accepted as Firelord after 100 years of war and propaganda? The Avatar has been considered as traitor since Roku, so Aang taking down Ozai doesn't necessarily mean that everyone will just turn around and follow them. What about the FN Military? I don't think this "Azula lost the Agni Kai, so he is the rightful heir" stuff was enough. They should have shown the Earth Kingdom and the Water Tribes celebrating, maybe with some confused FN Soldiers sitting around, saying something like "What are we going to do now?" Something about how they're rebuilding villages and cities... Maybe there was not enough time... But there would have been plenty of time, if they had focused on the main storyline during season 3... Gnah. Still hate TPL and NAD.
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Aang
Jul 26, 2008 11:15:17 GMT -5
Post by Katara7 on Jul 26, 2008 11:15:17 GMT -5
I'm glad Aang didn't kill the fire lord, it shows that he is REALLY nice! I mean, who wouldn't kill the fire lord? I don't know If I would, I would probably do the same thing that Aang did.
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Aang
Jul 26, 2008 18:15:48 GMT -5
Post by asian malaysian on Jul 26, 2008 18:15:48 GMT -5
paleiko. You would be surprised how short people's memory's seem to be even in the real world with so many available information resources let alone in the Avatar world. After a hundred years with interaction with the colonies, your average Firenation citizen may not as interested in fighting these people as Firelord Ozai may have liked to imagine. In fact, they may have been quite gla just to be rid of him. It was never fully explained in the series if Avatar Roku was regarded as a traitor to the Firenation even though soldiers were told to hunt the Avatar. After all, they didnt destroy his statues in the Fire Temples.
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Aang
Sept 28, 2008 3:16:18 GMT -5
Post by Amira on Sept 28, 2008 3:16:18 GMT -5
I don't think Aang got everything. His people are still gone, he will never get that part of his childhood back, he will always be the avatar, his history and home all but destroyed. If anyone got everything it was Zuko who was crowned, got his uncles love, all new friends and respect, azula and his father defeated, etc.
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nandireya
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Aang
Sept 28, 2008 3:52:23 GMT -5
Post by nandireya on Sept 28, 2008 3:52:23 GMT -5
But it's all in how you look at it... Aang's got the girl he adores, the entire world loves him, and pretty much always has. His friends are with him and he's pretty much free to go wherever he wants whenever he wants. Zuko's pretty much stuck in the Fire Nation cleaning up the mess of three generations amid a people who cheered at his on-stage death. He has no idea where his mother is and his beloved uncle has settled half a world a way. He declared an all but won war over which can't sit well with the military who have fought and died to almost win it. He's going to have to work pretty much 24/7 to restore balance which won't sit well with his easily bored (and now very alone) girlfriend. He's really stuck between Scylla and Charybdis... I guess that's karma for you
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Aang
Sept 28, 2008 13:11:27 GMT -5
Post by Amira on Sept 28, 2008 13:11:27 GMT -5
But I guess what I was trying to point out is that it is unfair to say that he got everything. Aang didn't and he won't. The only thing he got at the end was a confirmation that his feelings were returned by Katara. He had always had friendship and for the most part people loved him.
But then again I don't see Aang as getting a completely happy ending because he will still have the loss of his people. A completely happy ending would have been him finding so long hidden air nomads.
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Ana
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Aang
Sept 28, 2008 18:19:08 GMT -5
Post by Ana on Sept 28, 2008 18:19:08 GMT -5
Nah, that hug with golden light around them in the finale basically spelled out "Mr. and Mrs. Fire Lord". Mai’s going to help him.
That said, Zuko and Aang both lost and gained some things in the finale. They both have new families now but they lost their old ones. And it bothers me when people are like "Aang didn’t sacrifice anything! He’s a horrible role model for kids!" because it is so not true. I mean, Aang could have given up a long time ago. But he sacrificed he a normal life and stuck it through to the end.
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Oct 3, 2008 17:11:29 GMT -5
Post by outcast on Oct 3, 2008 17:11:29 GMT -5
But it's all in how you look at it... Aang's got the girl he adores, the entire world loves him, and pretty much always has. His friends are with him and he's pretty much free to go wherever he wants whenever he wants. Zuko's pretty much stuck in the Fire Nation cleaning up the mess of three generations amid a people who cheered at his on-stage death. He has no idea where his mother is and his beloved uncle has settled half a world a way. He declared an all but won war over which can't sit well with the military who have fought and died to almost win it. He's going to have to work pretty much 24/7 to restore balance which won't sit well with his easily bored (and now very alone) girlfriend. He's really stuck between Scylla and Charybdis... I guess that's karma for you Yes, Zuko has all that to deal with but so does Aang. As Avatar it's his responsibility to mend the wounds between the three remaining nations. That's not going to be a walk in the park, even with the whole gaangs help. Also I doubt the FN (or atleast the higher ups) like Aang anymore than they like Zuko.
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