Leaf
Gran Gran 
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Post by Leaf on Dec 21, 2010 2:03:10 GMT -5
Did the incident at the Northern Water Tribe really count as a Lunar Eclipse?
Why did Katara in the library say it was?
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Post by Paraiba Ocean on Dec 21, 2010 11:52:41 GMT -5
Err, I suppose in a technical fashion it did. I'm assuming prophetic/fortune-type predictions like that, as well as the "Day of the Black Sun" might be technically true but in a round-about way, if that makes any sense.
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Post by Musogato on Dec 21, 2010 23:21:06 GMT -5
Hmm, maybe it would fall under divine coincidence? Yue's dad told Sokka that he was given a vision of Yue becoming the Moon Spirit back when she was a baby, and the Library calendar shows that the planetary movements can be calculated. So, having the moon koi issues happen at the same time as a lunar eclipse could be possible. It does raise the question though, was it the eclipse or the spirit's death that that affected the waterbenders? And what would have happened if Yue didn't sacrifice herself within that time frame? Would the eclipse end and everything would be fine again, or did a magic fish really have an effect on a rock in space?  But anyway, I would say it was a lunar eclipse because Katara said it was, and the writers probably added that so the audience would have an idea of what the solar eclipse would do to firebenders, or just to reference the incident since it's related. *shrugs* |
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Post by ILZ on Dec 22, 2010 0:48:20 GMT -5
They kinda made it seem that it was the death of the moon spirit that caused the waterbenders to loose their bending. Aang and Iroh kept talking about the effects of killing the moon spirit; I always got the impression that the waterbenders would loose their power forever. If there was a "true" eclipse at that same time, why would Zhao kill the fish, since he more than likely had access to the model that would have shown him the next eclipse. Perhaps "eclipse" was just the best way Katara could describe what happened at the North Pole.
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Post by Paraiba Ocean on Dec 22, 2010 0:55:43 GMT -5
Well, the Fire Nation had already wiped out all the airbenders save Aang, so it's safe to assume the Fire Nation didn't really have the interest of preserving bending at heart. Zhao could have wanted to just permanently prevented the Water Tribe from bending ever again without considering the other consequences of nature - which is what Iroh and Aang were concerned with.
However, now that Jade brought it up, I'm inclined to agree it might have just been something like an comparison. Waterbenders are to lunar eclipses as firebenders are to solar eclipses.
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Post by Musogato on Dec 22, 2010 22:41:34 GMT -5
Mm, good points ILZ, I didn't consider those. I also realized that in mine it would mean Yue's sacrifice was basically a Death by Lack of Science, which rather cynically destroys the scene. ^^; So I'm changing my vote, and thirding the eclipse as a comparison theory.
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valentine
Warrior Sokka 
Sometimes lies were more dependable than the truth.
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Post by valentine on Dec 31, 2010 21:46:15 GMT -5
Wow that is a really good question hahaha I didn't even really realize that she had called that an eclipse until I went back and watched the episodes again. I have to go ahead and agree with what has been said above and go with the whole "Comparison theory" thing. Sure it wasn't really an eclipse but it had a very negative effect on their bending.
Nice thinking about that =) Karma for you it got me thinking
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