Tera253
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Post by Tera253 on Dec 22, 2008 2:10:27 GMT -5
alrighty...
but yeah, it's an interesting part of the story... ~Sanaki~
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Sheogorath
Kyoshi Azula
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Post by Sheogorath on Dec 30, 2008 2:31:13 GMT -5
alrighty... but yeah, it's an interesting part of the story... ~Sanaki~ So I didn't get it for Christmas. I got Avatar: The Burning Earth and Sonic and the Secret Rings, they're great games, but the boss battle against Azula and Zuko is impossible without potions and Sonic and the Secret Rings is just f***ing hard! I also got Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz. My mom was trying to save money, but come on. If she's that uncertain, she should have gotten me another generalist gift card and let me use it to get the game I asked for. I've no idea if Banana Blitz is a good game or not, I just don't like Super Monkey Ball. If he finds the reciept, I'll put it in my account and use it to buy those rechargable batteries I was after, and use part of the Christmas money I got from my grandparents to buy Radiant Dawn used like I originally planned.
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Post by Chibi Chan-o on Dec 30, 2008 23:11:50 GMT -5
How fun is Fire Emblem? Epic battles? Likeable characters? Decent plot?
I'm thinking of getting Path of Radiance and then the sequel to that, Radiant Dawn. I recently rented SSB: Brawl and I've always liked Marth, so I thought, why not try playing the game he originated from? (although I know he's not in any of the US releases)
But I want to know before spending my money.
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Tera253
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Post by Tera253 on Dec 31, 2008 14:49:35 GMT -5
alrighty... but yeah, it's an interesting part of the story... ~Sanaki~ So I didn't get it for Christmas. I got Avatar: The Burning Earth and Sonic and the Secret Rings, they're great games, but the boss battle against Azula and Zuko is impossible without potions. oohh... burning earth was fun... the only problem with it was that, like Starfox Assault, it was too short. as for the Zuko/Azula battle, I found that Katara is broken, and I just abused her ranged attack and was therefore able to effectively mop the floor with Azula's face. @cc: Fire Emblem is loads of fun. Radiant Dawn is something I'd recommend to anyone who wants a challenge. it's hard, but I loved it. ~Sanaki~
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Sheogorath
Kyoshi Azula
Lord of the Never-There
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Post by Sheogorath on Dec 31, 2008 23:20:39 GMT -5
How fun is Fire Emblem? Epic battles? Likeable characters? Decent plot? I'm thinking of getting Path of Radiance and then the sequel to that, Radiant Dawn. I recently rented SSB: Brawl and I've always liked Marth, so I thought, why not try playing the game he originated from? (although I know he's not in any of the US releases) But I want to know before spending my money. It's not for everybody. It's a great game, sure, but what Tera's not mentioning is that Fire Emblem is very unforgiving. If a character dies, you lose them forever. Some stay on for whatever reason, but you can't use them anymore, most of them, however, are gone for good. Until of course you've started a new game. Then you get a new chance with them. And if your main character dies, that's Game Over and you have to try the level over again. Some, like myself, don't accept it when certain characters die, and so do a level over and over again, trying new things to keep them alive until they've cleared the level with everyone they took in still alive. As for likeable characters, it's inevitable. Some you like, some you have no strong feelings for, and some you just can't bring yourself to like, no matter how you try. And plot varies from game to game, but it's basically the same, your group starts out small but grows throughout the game, and they're trying to prevent some man-made cataclysm from destroying the world. For example, in the first U.S. Fire Emblem, the characters are trying to stop a madman from destroying all of humanity from bringing Dragons back into the world. And in Path of Radiance, they're trying to stop an evil King from resurrecting a destructive god. It's an interesting series. Variation is the life of spices, as they say (I know it's 'the spice of life,' but Morrie in Dragon Quest VIII butchered the statement, and what he said has just stuck with me. Play the game. Dragon Quest VIII is awesome).
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Post by Chibi Chan-o on Jan 2, 2009 22:20:45 GMT -5
How fun is Fire Emblem? Epic battles? Likeable characters? Decent plot? I'm thinking of getting Path of Radiance and then the sequel to that, Radiant Dawn. I recently rented SSB: Brawl and I've always liked Marth, so I thought, why not try playing the game he originated from? (although I know he's not in any of the US releases) But I want to know before spending my money. It's not for everybody. It's a great game, sure, but what Tera's not mentioning is that Fire Emblem is very unforgiving. If a character dies, you lose them forever. Some stay on for whatever reason, but you can't use them anymore, most of them, however, are gone for good. Until of course you've started a new game. Then you get a new chance with them. And if your main character dies, that's Game Over and you have to try the level over again. Some, like myself, don't accept it when certain characters die, and so do a level over and over again, trying new things to keep them alive until they've cleared the level with everyone they took in still alive. As for likeable characters, it's inevitable. Some you like, some you have no strong feelings for, and some you just can't bring yourself to like, no matter how you try. And plot varies from game to game, but it's basically the same, your group starts out small but grows throughout the game, and they're trying to prevent some man-made cataclysm from destroying the world. For example, in the first U.S. Fire Emblem, the characters are trying to stop a madman from destroying all of humanity from bringing Dragons back into the world. And in Path of Radiance, they're trying to stop an evil King from resurrecting a destructive god. It's an interesting series. Variation is the life of spices, as they say (I know it's 'the spice of life,' but Morrie in Dragon Quest VIII butchered the statement, and what he said has just stuck with me. Play the game. Dragon Quest VIII is awesome). Yeah, I looked up Fire Emblem on Wikipedia and read that, and the fact that you can lose people doesn't sound very fun. But that's what saving and resetting is for!! XD I also heard that a main complaint was the fact that it's very difficult, even for veteran players. But hey, I'm clever. If all else fails, there are online walkthroughs or hours of training to boost up my power (or however you gain experience in FE). I need a challenge.
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Sheogorath
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Post by Sheogorath on Jan 2, 2009 23:28:55 GMT -5
It's not for everybody. It's a great game, sure, but what Tera's not mentioning is that Fire Emblem is very unforgiving. If a character dies, you lose them forever. Some stay on for whatever reason, but you can't use them anymore, most of them, however, are gone for good. Until of course you've started a new game. Then you get a new chance with them. And if your main character dies, that's Game Over and you have to try the level over again. Some, like myself, don't accept it when certain characters die, and so do a level over and over again, trying new things to keep them alive until they've cleared the level with everyone they took in still alive. As for likeable characters, it's inevitable. Some you like, some you have no strong feelings for, and some you just can't bring yourself to like, no matter how you try. And plot varies from game to game, but it's basically the same, your group starts out small but grows throughout the game, and they're trying to prevent some man-made cataclysm from destroying the world. For example, in the first U.S. Fire Emblem, the characters are trying to stop a madman from destroying all of humanity from bringing Dragons back into the world. And in Path of Radiance, they're trying to stop an evil King from resurrecting a destructive god. It's an interesting series. Variation is the life of spices, as they say (I know it's 'the spice of life,' but Morrie in Dragon Quest VIII butchered the statement, and what he said has just stuck with me. Play the game. Dragon Quest VIII is awesome). Yeah, I looked up Fire Emblem on Wikipedia and read that, and the fact that you can lose people doesn't sound very fun. But that's what saving and resetting is for!! XD I also heard that a main complaint was the fact that it's very difficult, even for veteran players. But hey, I'm clever. If all else fails, there are online walkthroughs or hours of training to boost up my power (or however you gain experience in FE). I need a challenge. Well, that depends on the particular installment of the series. I don't have particular trouble with the first one, The Sacred Stones, or Path of Radiance, but I hear that Radiant Dawn is a bit of a kick in the pants. But that's me. I've played the first one, TSS, and PoR enough to know more or less what to expect. I'd suggest starting with the first one or The Sacred Stones if you can find them to get a feel for the series, see if you like it, and if you do, then move on to Path of Radiance and then Radiant Dawn.
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Post by concreteangel on Jan 2, 2009 23:45:29 GMT -5
Radiant Dawn is HARD. But it's worth it. I love it insanely. The characters are adorable, and I love how the ending can change based on who has a support (basically a strong friendship) with each other.
Micaiah and Sothe anyone? So cute! Leanne and Naesala.... Elincia and Geofery too.
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Post by Chibi Chan-o on Jan 3, 2009 22:41:22 GMT -5
As far as likeable characters go, the ones I'm concerned with are the main ones. They aren't all sparkly, highpitched and helpless, are they? (They shouldn't be if they're main guys in a fighting game of all things.)
Although, looking at past FE installments, they're usually sexy swordwielding guys, right? Isn't PoR and RD centered around Ike?
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Post by concreteangel on Jan 3, 2009 23:48:37 GMT -5
Micaiah, Sothe, Ike, Elincia, and Sanaki are basically your lords. Other than the laguz, who are BEASTS in more ways than one. Micaiah is weak for most of the game, unless you train her really well from the beginning. She's a light mage, and you have her for almost the whole game, so she's fairly easy to get leveled. Her class changes are mandantory at two spots though, so you've got to watch that. (There's 3 classes each character this time, instead of the usual 2) Sothe (swoon) is the overleveled guy that shows up in the beginning so you don't die. Thief. Gorgeous. (In my opinion). Wears a shirt that doesn't cover his awesome abs and.... I'm supposed to be talking about his stats not his looks Ike is the big, muscled sword-wielding guy. Super strong. Not overleveled though, like Sothe is. He's just got monster stats. If you're not careful, he'll be maxed out well before anyone else is. Elincia is a girl. Lol. She can get killed pretty easily, but her sword does 4 hits sometimes and never breaks. And she can heal. So she's usually pretty useful if you shove someone (like Geoffery) beside her. Sanaki only shows up as a playable character in the end, and you're forced to bring her everywhere. Once she levels up though, which happens really fast, the girl is AMAZING. Still easily killed. But she's a mage so she can stand a space behind some people and do just fine without risking too many hits. The laguz lords (other than the herons, who can't attack at all) are like Ike. Amazing. Huge stats. But, also like Ike, it's easy to get them way too high in level and ruin the game... Most of the other characters are amazing, too. Like Ike's group. Rolf and Shinon at marksmen? Practically unbeatable. Almost all the characters are likeable, there's no doubt about it, but you'll definitely have your favorites and preferences. If you liked any of the other games, Radiant Dawn is definitely a great buy. I don't have Path of Radiance, but you don't need it to understand the plotline. They explain what of it needs to be explained and POR is nearly impossible to find.
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Post by Chibi Chan-o on Jan 4, 2009 0:03:52 GMT -5
Micaiah kind of sounds like the typical healer/magic user of the game, huh? (as in the fact she dies easily) I usually take extra special care of those, because I rely on healers heavily in most of my games. But then again, Elincia seems to be the healer. *didn't read on far enough before seeing character description*
I think I've seen Sothe's trophy on Brawl. In the description, he ages "from child to young adult in PoR." I like the belly shirt. XD (I think I have a thing for exposed tummies)
Ike is mah BABY in Brawl. I love how he sends people flying with one hit. I've learned to time his strikes and it usually only takes me only a few hits to get a KO now. His recovery move is what usually kills me, because he dies instantly whenever he can't reach the platform. XD
PoR is a GC game, right? Never say impossible, as there is always eBay and Amazon. XD
Either way, I'm impatient so I might just get RD.
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Post by concreteangel on Jan 4, 2009 0:18:26 GMT -5
Micaiah and Elincia both heal. And I'm pretty sure Sanaki can, but I'm not sure... I haven't played in a while. It's very convenient. Sothe is definitely fun Keep his A rank support with Micaiah for my favorite ending in the whole game. Those two claim to be brother and sister, but you definitely doubt it from, like, the beginning. Oh yeah, Ike. You gotta love him. He always hits 20/20/20 for me. (20th level, class change, 20th level, class change, 20th level... I'm assuming you probably know how it works but just in case... in FE, a character changes classes when they hit level 20 or use a certain item after level ten, and they go back to level one again. But they're way stronger.) Make sure you have a nice round team, though. That's important for the final battle. A marksman is definitely nice. A couple varying generals... some knights. Dragonlords. Definitely both of those. But, don't take my opinion! Do it youself. It's fun to see the different outcomes.
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Tera253
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Post by Tera253 on Jan 4, 2009 14:46:58 GMT -5
so from what I hear, Radiant Dawn is the most unforgiving? cool. =D anyways, I deeply analyzed each character from Radiant Dawn and, based on how well I was able to use them I was able to decently describe how good or bad they were.
Sothe is cool at first, but you need to have careful timing if you want to know when and when not to use him, otherwise he'll be an EXP hog one moment and an underpowered weakling the next.
Micaiah is alright, but you kinda have to watch her carefully throughout the entire game otherwise she'll drag you down. I usually give her PAragon, but I'll get into that later.
Ike is a beast. period. just make sure that once he hits level 20 that you try to use him as little as possible, otherwise he'll be an EXP hog as well. once he promotes, go to town till 20 again.
The Laguz kings are amazing... great for the endgame if you don't want a challenge.
I personally wanted a challenge, so I only took 1 or two of them, and the rest were my hero characters like Nephenee, Mia, Boyd, Rolf, and Sanaki.
oh, and Sanaki is AMAZING. she's my all-time favorite video game character because of how heroic she was when I used her. she WOULD NOT get hit.
but yeah, Sanaki is awesome. ~Sanaki~
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Post by Sheogorath on Jan 5, 2009 23:45:02 GMT -5
If you liked any of the other games, Radiant Dawn is definitely a great buy. I don't have Path of Radiance, but you don't need it to understand the plotline. They explain what of it needs to be explained and POR is nearly impossible to find. You do and you don't. And it is but it's not. We've been over this time and again. Even if they explain all you really need to know, it's still good to know first-hand what exactly happened. There's nothing like the actual experience as opposed to missing little but enjoyable things and not knowing 100% of any of it, big or small. Besides which, for all the differences between Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, I'm willing to bet it's still a good idea to figure out the game on PoR or some earlier Fire Emblem before you go in and do something stupid and get a Game Over in the first half hour of the game. Although, I've been playing Fire Emblem since it first came to the U.S. on the GBA back in 2000, so I already know what I'm doing. And secondly, Amazon.com or ebay. Imossible to find? More like over-priced, even at the least expensive level. As far as likeable characters go, the ones I'm concerned with are the main ones. They aren't all sparkly, highpitched and helpless, are they? (They shouldn't be if they're main guys in a fighting game of all things.) Although, looking at past FE installments, they're usually sexy swordwielding guys, right? Isn't PoR and RD centered around Ike? I'd say they're all pretty hardcore, if only the main male characters weren't always so pretty and made to have one big emo moment when it wasn't really necessary, though Eliwood's father did have the more heartwrenching death. And no, not every main character in Fire Emblem is a swordslinging guy. In the first one, your first main character was a greenish-haired girl named Lyndis, followed by red-haired Eliwood, your first male Lord, though he IS a bit scrawny, and then axe-wielding, blue-haired Hector. In The Sacred Stones, you start off contolling Eirika, the princess of the Kingdom of Renais, destroyed by a sudden and devastating attack by the Grado Empire. It's not til halfway through the game, or later if you decide to keep Eirika, that you take control of her brother, the lance-wielding Ephraim. Regardless of who you chose to follow at the game's split, you wind up taking control of both of them and using them through the end of the game. I wouldn't say any of them are helpless, but at first, you have to keep an eye on them. Even with good stats, HP still tends to suck until you have them built up. That's where Seraph Robes come in. Better used on Mages and Pegasus Knights but work just as well if you use your main characters more frequently.
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Post by concreteangel on Jan 6, 2009 1:59:30 GMT -5
Okay, so not having PoR didn't affect ME at all. In fact, when I first played Radiant Dawn, I didn't know there was PoR. I knew there was a GameCube Fire Emblem, but I figured they were about as connected as the other games, aka not really. I just figured they were referencing important historical details that you needed to know. It wasn't until after I'd beaten the whole game twice that I finally decided to look up how to get some secret characters that I'd heard about, and, from there, I found out about PoR's plotline.
First one I played was Sacred Stones, which was good. It's definitely the easiest one because there's a training ground right there that you can visit at any time. Trust me, I had many, many, many overleveled characters in that game. I'm one of those people who trains to death, then goes to actually beat the game. Effective, but not very challenging. Then, I consecutively finished the Eliwood one while starting Radiant Dawn.
There's a DS one that will hopefully come out in the US sometime. Marth is in it, I believe. It's a remake.
And, contrary to popular belief, Roy is in one of the games. He's Eliwood's son (Ninian being my preferred mother), and appears for only moments, but, still. I think they're remaking that one too or something. I'm not quite sure.
Haha. Yeah. My advice for playing Radiant Dawn? Make sure you've got a well-rounded team each time, and get that as fast as possible. You switch teams a lot, but, in the end, they all combine and split off again... but that time it's not in the groups they used to be in. So make sure you've got strong people on every team. Plan out who you're going to take into the final battle as soon as you can. Fall in love with Shinon? Make sure he gets good stats. And definitely make sure your lords are high level. You have to take them into the final battles and some of them are kinda wimpy.
Good supports are definitely a good idea, too. Ending-changing ones are fun, but there's not a lot of those in Radiant Dawn. Three, I think. Without PoR.
That was very long...
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