Horyo
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Post by Horyo on Mar 8, 2009 22:37:03 GMT -5
Graphically it's very nice. I played the GBA one, and now I'm playing the DS one. I am very picky about (most games and especially) Tactical turn-based games. The only ones I have enjoyed up to now are Fire Emblem, FFTA (both), and that one game for the GBA: Knights of Lodis or something.
Character classes are fun, though I'm not sure I understand reclassing here (some of my characters can't switch to certain classes).
I'm on Chapter 6 or 7 for Shadow Dragon, and I just lost this one Horsemen (he died in EVERY mission and I had to restart...) but I let him go seeing as how he's a burden.
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Post by mikael on Mar 8, 2009 22:54:34 GMT -5
You get as many horsemen as you do mosquito bites during the summer, and most are inconsequential characters.
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Sheogorath
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Post by Sheogorath on Mar 9, 2009 2:29:13 GMT -5
You get as many horsemen as you do mosquito bites during the summer, and most are inconsequential characters. My definition of "Inconsequential characters" is those who have no more scenes later in the game than the first three chapters after their initial appearance. By that reasoning, just about everyone is inconsequential, even the ones who join extremely late in the game. Like Renault in the first one. How in the world is he supposed to gain an A-rank support with anybody? There's only the final chapter after the one he joins in, and last I knew, you can't support in the phase where you fight Nergal and then once again in the phase where you fight the Dragon. Unless my knowledge is wrong, at which point, I could have had an A-rank support between Vaida and Heath.
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Post by Horyo on Mar 9, 2009 5:34:48 GMT -5
Some characters are relatively important for recruiting; Lena is one of them. Marth will most likely be your main recruiter but he can't die anyway, so it doesn't matter.
All the characters are important to me, and the interesting thing is, since they can class change, it adds a spin on how to disperse your army.
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Post by mikael on Mar 9, 2009 14:02:50 GMT -5
@ Waltz: I don't find unique class units inconsequential (I went through the game once without reclassing). This game does make more characters kinda pointless, though. Sacred Stones did a good job of making me want everybody alive - I think you only got one unit that could become a summoner, as I recall.
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Post by Aura of Cruxis on Mar 9, 2009 20:53:59 GMT -5
*gaspers* I luff Fire Emblem! I fell in love with Radiant Dawn and cried when I had to to return it to Hastings (rental).
Hokay, there's this HELLUVAN awesome game coming out for the Wii, but that might be a while. Should I consider buying this or just rent it whenever Hastings manages to put it out for rental?
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Sheogorath
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Post by Sheogorath on Mar 9, 2009 21:58:15 GMT -5
@ Waltz: I don't find unique class units inconsequential (I went through the game once without reclassing). This game does make more characters kinda pointless, though. Sacred Stones did a good job of making me want everybody alive - I think you only got one unit that could become a summoner, as I recall. In Sacred Stones, both Knoll, the Shaman who joins along with Ephraim and company in Jehenna if you played Eirika's game, or where ever it was he joined in Ephraim's game, and Ewan, the apprentice-level magic-user could become Summoners. I never had them both become Summoners. Knoll as I use him usually becomes a Summoner, and Ewan usually becomes a Sage. Auri: Are you talking about Shadow Dragon? Or some other game?
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Post by Tera253 on Mar 11, 2009 20:30:49 GMT -5
*gaspers* I luff Fire Emblem! I fell in love with Radiant Dawn and cried when I had to to return it to Hastings (rental). Hokay, there's this HELLUVAN awesome game coming out for the Wii, but that might be a while. Should I consider buying this or just rent it whenever Hastings manages to put it out for rental? that's when you buy Fire Emblem. as for the game you speak of, it depends entirely on what this game is, dontcha think? ~Ty Lee~
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Post by mikael on Mar 15, 2009 19:28:32 GMT -5
@ Waltz: I don't find unique class units inconsequential (I went through the game once without reclassing). This game does make more characters kinda pointless, though. Sacred Stones did a good job of making me want everybody alive - I think you only got one unit that could become a summoner, as I recall. In Sacred Stones, both Knoll, the Shaman who joins along with Ephraim and company in Jehenna if you played Eirika's game, or where ever it was he joined in Ephraim's game, and Ewan, the apprentice-level magic-user could become Summoners. I never had them both become Summoners. Knoll as I use him usually becomes a Summoner, and Ewan usually becomes a Sage. Auri: Are you talking about Shadow Dragon? Or some other game? Because I was OCD about having every unit, I made Knoll a druid and Ewan a Summoner. I already had two Sages. The Hero is still by far my favorite unit in the game, though how they class up from Mercenaries is beyond me (What, you pay me enough and suddenly I work for free as a hero? GAH).
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Post by Sheogorath on Mar 15, 2009 23:42:53 GMT -5
In Sacred Stones, both Knoll, the Shaman who joins along with Ephraim and company in Jehenna if you played Eirika's game, or where ever it was he joined in Ephraim's game, and Ewan, the apprentice-level magic-user could become Summoners. I never had them both become Summoners. Knoll as I use him usually becomes a Summoner, and Ewan usually becomes a Sage. Auri: Are you talking about Shadow Dragon? Or some other game? Because I was OCD about having every unit, I made Knoll a druid and Ewan a Summoner. I already had two Sages. The Hero is still by far my favorite unit in the game, though how they class up from Mercenaries is beyond me (What, you pay me enough and suddenly I work for free as a hero? GAH). It's kind of gay, though, that four or five characters can become Sages, and but two or three of them are Clerics and Monks, while there's only two who can use Dark-type magic. That's so not fair. Even less when you consider they nixed the Dark-type in the Path of Radiance universe. So I have Shadow Dragon, and the Prologue and the first three chapters done. So, what... do I think? I think it's pretty good, that's what I think. The graphics and music are a lot easier on the eyes and ears than previous handheld Fire Emblems, let me just say. And the rumor about not being able to get certain characters if a certain number of units more than required to get them remains by the time you meet them? That's not true. There's only one character like that, where you need four or fewer left after Prologue IV to get her, and she joins in Chapter 1 if you met that condition. The rest are either you talk to them with someone because they start as an enemy, you have Marth visit a village and recruit them through the scene you see there, or you can even recruit certain people by not killing them in the level they appear as an enemy and clearing the stage with them still alive. That's intriguing. If I have to complain about something, it's that I'm not used to Fire Emblem in a split-screen format yet, so I'm looking at the bottom screen when people are fighting, and the actual fight is on the top screen, and by the time I get there, the fight's already half over. The game seems to be madly in love with horse-riders, Cavaliers and their ilk, as I've already 3 or 4 of them at this early stage, and almost half of them left to join rides a horse! Hello, reclassing when it's available. Also, there's a time when you have to choose between recruiting a Hero or a Paladin. Just guess which one I'm going to choose? All in all, it's actually pretty good. The graphics are sort of halfway between earlier handheld Fire Emblems and the Path of Radiance series, and character design, both battle and map sprites, as well as conversation sprites, are well done. If I had to complain about character design and all that, why the devil is Marth so young?! They say years pass between the prologue and Chapter 1, but he don't look no older! Not a day! I can understand updating graphics from an older version of the same game, but come on, man. Not even video game characters look the same as they did years apart from iteration to iteration. Addendum: I stand by what I said that there's only one character you can get by having less than a certain number alive at a certain point, and that's because it's true. There are others throughout the game who can be obtained by having less than a certain number left alive by the end of a specific chapter, but being that these characters are obtained in side-quests, they don't really count. Sure, there are necessary steps to take to obtain them once you're there, but you don't really need them. If you do want them, however, most are worth the effort, you have to pick some sheep to sacrifice from chapter to chapter. This game really does want you to let certain people die, as evidenced by the fact that some have stats far superior to others. So if anything, my first play through is nothing more than a play through to determine who's worth keeping and who should be sacrificed. Although, there are a total of four "If you have this specific person, you can't have this one." characters, a Hero and a Paladin you choose from, and then you can either get another Manakete from a side quest or a powerful Sage if you decided not to go for the side quest. Personally, I don't want to do what is necessary to get the third Manakete, so I'll just not do the thing necessary to get them and go for the Sage. Note: This post is mainly for concreteangel, who asked me for my thoughts about my time with the game. Addendum: Since I seem to be the only person who cares about this thread any more (I am a thread killer, after all), it's pointless for me to make new posts, that's multiposting, so I'll just go ahead and make any statements like this. Want me to stop? Then let's get some more posts and bring this thread back to life! Here we go. And what I want to say today is this: Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon certainly has some lovely ladies in it. Lena, Princess Minerva, Athena, Princess Nyna (Definitely Princess Nyna), the girls in this game, I dare say are a lot better looking than the girls in other Fire Emblem games.
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