Power
Fire Lord Zuko
Kataangian Elite. Air/Water Warrior
Toph and Sokka. Every day they get closer to each other.
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Post by Power on Sept 9, 2007 21:32:04 GMT -5
I have to agree with that one. If anything, Katara could be a sister, so, c'mon. Yeah, I understand the analogy you all are making with the whole Pieta thing, but, please, lets not turn this into an Oedipus complex. Yes, Aang fills the role of a messianic hero, but so does Superman. It's not necessarily Oedipal for a man to fall in love with someone who mothers him. I mean it happens in real life all the time. But we're not talking about real life are we? Katara is not necessarily the follower. In the desert she was completely in charge of everyone which was yet another episode when she was cast in the "mother" role. Even to Toph asking for more water in the most child-like voice we've ever heard from her. I don't think it's sick to cast someone in the maternal role and to have someone get a crush on her. Boys do it with favorite teachers all the time (NOT talking about MKL -- no panties in a bunch please). Men do it with nurses. Mothering is womanly and Katara is beautiful so it isn't such a stretch. I don't think anyone is saying she's cast in the role of his actual mother, just the maternal figure of the group. However, as I said just a few posts ago, season 3 could change things. Katara could take less of a motherly role, but Aang is cast in the savior role regardless. Heck she even says it at the beginning "but I believe Aang will save the world." I'd say in the desert it was more of a leadership role than motherly.
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Post by bagpipe turtle on Sept 9, 2007 21:35:27 GMT -5
It's not necessarily Oedipal for a man to fall in love with someone who mothers him. I mean it happens in real life all the time. But we're not talking about real life are we? Katara is not necessarily the follower. In the desert she was completely in charge of everyone which was yet another episode when she was cast in the "mother" role. Even to Toph asking for more water in the most child-like voice we've ever heard from her. I don't think it's sick to cast someone in the maternal role and to have someone get a crush on her. Boys do it with favorite teachers all the time (NOT talking about MKL -- no panties in a bunch please). Men do it with nurses. Mothering is womanly and Katara is beautiful so it isn't such a stretch. I don't think anyone is saying she's cast in the role of his actual mother, just the maternal figure of the group. However, as I said just a few posts ago, season 3 could change things. Katara could take less of a motherly role, but Aang is cast in the savior role regardless. Heck she even says it at the beginning "but I believe Aang will save the world." I'd say in the desert it was more of a leadership role than motherly. I disagree. She was leading the group, yes, but when she was talking to Toph and Aang, it was in a very motherly, "I'll take care of you" sort of way.
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Post by Everwen45 on Sept 9, 2007 21:36:59 GMT -5
Also, If you wanna make any parallels with Christianity, then I think it's more accurate to portray Aang and Katara as Jesus and Mary Madgalene. Absolutely not. Mary Magdalene was a prostitute and her purpose was to show Jesus' inclusiveness when all others, even his own disciples shunned her. No parallel with Katara at all. Not to start a debate of religion, but Mary Magdalene was never called a prostitute in the New Testament, despite the popular belief. Okay, guys, as fun and interesting this debate is, aren't we in the zutara thread? I'm quite surprised none of the mods is here to stop us when other times we just asked for the weather and they were here saying "That's off topic".
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Post by bagpipe turtle on Sept 9, 2007 21:39:17 GMT -5
Okay, guys, as fun and interesting this debate is, aren't we in the zutara thread? I'm quite surprised none of the mods is here to stop us when other times we just asked for the weather and they were here saying "That's off topic". Techincally this is sort of related to Zutara. A little bit.
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Post by rocio on Sept 9, 2007 21:41:07 GMT -5
NO ONE HAS **THAT THING**concept!!!!
It is the image that more words is worth in the cinema and television because it contains a great force!
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Post by mahatista on Sept 9, 2007 21:41:41 GMT -5
Absolutely not. Mary Magdalene was a prostitute and her purpose was to show Jesus' inclusiveness when all others, even his own disciples shunned her. No parallel with Katara at all. Not to start a debate of religion, but Mary Magdalene was never called a prostitute in the New Testament, despite the popular belief. Okay, guys, as fun and interesting this debate is, aren't we in the zutara thread? I'm quite surprised none of the mods is here to stop us when other times we just asked for the weather and they were here saying "That's off topic". Mary Magdalene may not have been an actual prostitute (I won't say you're right until I research it myself) but her purpose was as I said. She was indeed a follower, but nothing more than that on Team Jesus. I do feel like the discussion has been a bit hi-jacked, but that always seems to happen when the relationship between Katara and Aang is discussed, which is kind of hard to avoid when talking about the possibility of a relationship with Zuko. *Sigh*
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Post by Everwen45 on Sept 9, 2007 21:42:30 GMT -5
bagpipe turtle: Well then, enlighten me, because I'm a bit lost here. @rocio: What are you talking about?
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Post by bagpipe turtle on Sept 9, 2007 21:44:06 GMT -5
It is the image that more words is worth in the cinema and television because it contains a great force! Yeah, agreed. That's why people can probably still pull off silent films- because of that old cliche- a picture is worth a thousand words. Even when nothing is being said, the images on screen can still convey emotion and important aspects of the film or show. They still tell, even when the dialogue does not. Ehm. This related to Katara and Aang's relationship, which has to do with Zutara because... um... well, actually, I have no idea. It's related somehow, though. May be a strech, but I'm sure there is a connection.
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Post by rocio on Sept 9, 2007 21:44:30 GMT -5
Katara is Mary in the sense not only by her position in many of the Piete scenes that she made with Aang all along the show, If not by the fact that she was the one narrating the legend and waiting for him as a Mary, without mentioning that she gived him to the life.
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Post by mindbender18 on Sept 9, 2007 21:53:10 GMT -5
Katara just has a motherly personality, she's motherly to everyone, not just Aang.
Hell, if things were different, she would be motherly to Zuko (but of course, it wouldn't be seen like that >.<)
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Post by rocio on Sept 9, 2007 21:53:31 GMT -5
Katara just has a motherly personality, she's mother to everyone, not just Aang. Hell, if things were different, she would be motherly to Zuko (but of course it wouldn't be seen like that >.<) Im not talking about personality
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Post by Everwen45 on Sept 9, 2007 21:54:12 GMT -5
You know what I've been thinking with all this? That either Aang is really light or Katara really strong, because that was like what, the third time she carries him? And then Aang goes and carries Zuko quite often. That doesn't make any sense.
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Post by bagpipe turtle on Sept 9, 2007 21:55:39 GMT -5
You know what I've been thinking with all this? That either Aang is really light or Katara really strong, because that was like what, the third time she carries him? And then Aang goes and carries Zuko quite often. That doesn't make any sense. When did Aang carry Zuko...?
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Post by Jalien on Sept 9, 2007 21:57:01 GMT -5
Katara is Mary in the sense not only by her position in many of the Piete scenes that she made with Aang all along the show, If not by the fact that she was the one narrating the legend and waiting for him as a Mary, without mentioning that she gived him to the life. Wow, nice parallel. I never even thought of Katara being the one who awakens Aang. @ Everwen45: Yeah, I know right? I was particularly surprised that Aang could carry Zuko. That couldn't have been the easiest thing. 0.o @ bagpipeturtle- The season 1 finale. In the snow storm.
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Post by Everwen45 on Sept 9, 2007 21:57:30 GMT -5
You know what I've been thinking with all this? That either Aang is really light or Katara really strong, because that was like what, the third time she carries him? And then Aang goes and carries Zuko quite often. That doesn't make any sense. When did Aang carry Zuko...? "The Blue Spirit" and "The Siege of the North, Part II"
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