silverdreams
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Post by silverdreams on Sept 21, 2006 16:26:15 GMT -5
You Have A really good point, Kataang seems a bit too obvious. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for Kataang and I'd probably cry if it didn't happen or at least be upset. But It has happened in different shows. I still have that issue with Nick, I have that horrible feeling that they won't put them be together due to the Age Difference. Nick is like that. Plus Its been coming off more and more that Katara Thinks of Aang as more of a little brother, With the exception Of The "Cave of Two Lovers" 9Which seriously did more harm then good cuz it totally made me confused about everything and I still don't think they kissed. The Flame went out, the Crystals lite up, Katara Ran off...Aang wanted the kiss, but ended up half smiling and following..End of Story) But Anyway, I'm still trying To Figure Out Katara. She's so confusing! Its either she loves him more as a brother, or she hasn't yet Discovered her true feelings for Aang..but they're in there..somewhere. She just needs to realize (Kinda Like in the end of "The Fortune Teller") But Look At how fast she fell for Jet, I know things have kinda changed since then...but you know what I mean. I want Kataang to happen, but you totally have a good point, Theres a 50-50 chance as of right now. It really depends on what Katara ends up doing, Cuz Aangs already head over heels for her. And Gawd, if Haru comes back and him and Katara have A relationship, it'd be horrible!! I'll just die, I swear...just like...*Deadness* KATAANG 4E <3 Thats part of the reaosn I want Katang to happen, because shows never do age differences like that and it angers me that they don't, because age really doesn't matter expecially if its only 2 yesrs (same age difference for zutara, too).... well, with an exception of pedo-romance such as.... pakkara xD... (actually its almost like pedo and incest... since he was like... almost her grandpa) ANYWAY... but even if they have a brotherly/sisterly relationship, they can have a romantic one as well. But the thing is that, even if Katang seems to obvious, this doesn't seem like the type of show that does the usual 'main char falls for the popular girl, ends up falling for the one who likes him', thing.... I guess its mostly because we've already seen what happened with other people of the opposite gender both of them had crushes on, such as meng and jet. Though, it might be most likley that either Katang will happen, OR there will be no ships in the end. Honeslty there is pairings I really hope for, such as azulang and zutara, but I doubt its really going to happen. I just have no hope there won't be a circumstance where I CAN'T ship them (partiularly zutara, taang, and that stuff. azulang is more of a crackship... hehe, but still my fave).
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Post by kaangluv on Sept 21, 2006 16:43:49 GMT -5
Yeah. It's been said, but anything's possible. ;D
I actually take it that if it's on Nick, Kataang is the only thing they CAN do... I really like that they try to appeal both to their older fans and the target age, but it's just that; the target age. How many nine year olds will understand the baddie Zuko and Katara, even if Zuko reforms? I don't know. Everyone regards Zutara as FLAMING PASSIONOMG TEHLOVE!!!11, and Kataang as OMGTHEYRESOCUTEANDADORABLE!!.. (No offensive meant to anyone) I personally like the more fluffy thing. I think it's a matter of opinion, really. Anyway, one is as likely as the other.We'll just have to wait and see. ;D
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Post by Paraiba Ocean on Sept 21, 2006 16:50:32 GMT -5
Nick can do any pairing they want. But they have to do it right. Avatar must appeal to both an older and younger generation. I mean, I played a friggin video game and the woman was supposed to have the baby any day then, and her dress was tighter than a paper towel roll around my arm. And it was rated teen. But Nick made a woman pregnant and deliver a baby. You don't see that much on a show directed at a younger audience.
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Post by Yang Fishy on Sept 21, 2006 17:19:48 GMT -5
Yeah. It's been said, but anything's possible. ;D I actually take it that if it's on Nick, Kataang is the only thing they CAN do... I really like that they try to appeal both to their older fans and the target age, but it's just that; the target age. How many nine year olds will understand the baddie Zuko and Katara, even if Zuko reforms? I don't know. If the writers of Avatar obliged by Nick's regular standards, then most of what we've seen probably wouldn't have been aired. Let's give Nick a break from all the bashing since it's still giving green lights to future Avatar episodes. I understand they like to censor anything violent but children these days need to know what's going on and Avatar is doing just that while adding a little humor to it! War, segregation, pregnancy, poverty, corrupted governments, and death are all more mature concepts in life that are normally not discussed with 7-year olds. Avatar is exposing all this by using likable characters so I don't think a Zutara relationship is out of this world. Everyone regards Zutara as FLAMING PASSIONOMG TEHLOVE!!!11, and Kataang as OMGTHEYRESOCUTEANDADORABLE!!.. (No offensive meant to anyone) Well as much as it hurts me to say this but "Zutara canon" hasn't been played on the show yet so how can people say it's "FLAMING PASSION??" As of now Zutara is only a symbolic relationship so the writers can take any approach to it. I just think we shouldn't judge Zutara before it premieres on the show; for all we know, it could be tragic, bold, dramatic or even flaming ^^
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Post by rocio on Sept 21, 2006 22:40:44 GMT -5
Avatar looks more like a show with and for teenagers.... XD......
And "transparency effect" is something that is used in shows of classic narrative that makes see all natural and nobody can doubt it. Something that Avatar obvious uses all along. So it is very possible that they present/display the agreement of Zutara without it seems rare to any of all of us.
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Post by Earth King Sunny on Sept 21, 2006 23:52:46 GMT -5
Indeed, for me KatAang is too much like the standard transparent relationship we see in every other toon and thus is why I am not a supporter of it. Now Zutara can also be transparent but not nearly in my opinion as I can still see it happen. Kataang seems like an oncomming train but there is always a cow on the tracks.
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Post by mindbender18 on Sept 22, 2006 0:04:49 GMT -5
Mmmm..........oncoming train vs. cow, gosh, i wonder what would win. (I'm guessing the cow's suppose to be either zutara, taang, or any other odd reason why aang and katara shouldn't be together) No offense to anyone
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Alleluia
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Post by Alleluia on Sept 22, 2006 0:16:20 GMT -5
Actually, trains stop when a cow is on the tracks..... Hence the point of the analogy.
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Post by rocio on Sept 22, 2006 0:19:30 GMT -5
Kataang already is obvious without the necessity of the transparency effect . Single they even showed to us a kid that has a crush with a girl and he shows it all along.
Effect of transparency would be, for example, the case of Sokka. In one chapter he is able to use its instinct and to save a village. It seems impossible to think that in another one chapter he is drug with cactus juice, and thus he does. And when we are seeing it it seems very coherent. Because they, using the transparency effect for to demonstrated to us that the character of Sokka is so able to make intelligent things like deciphering an old apparatus in a library like to drugging himself to the following minute.
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Alleluia
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Post by Alleluia on Sept 22, 2006 0:28:59 GMT -5
Basically you are saying that the creators will make the characters do what the creators will make them do. And, since it is happening in the show and being treated as normal by the characters, it is accepted by the audience. That what you mean by the "Transparency Effect", Rocio?
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Post by Earth King Sunny on Sept 22, 2006 0:32:33 GMT -5
it translates to me as "predictable" and well Kataang is pretty predictable
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Post by Kataang's Supreme on Sept 22, 2006 11:33:23 GMT -5
In my point of view, If Aang tells Katara he likes her more than a friend, and he most likely will eventually, Katara will admit she likes him back. I know there is not enough evidence to support Katara liking Aang more than a friend, yet, but I have predictions for the future episodes.
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Post by gambitia on Sept 22, 2006 12:06:47 GMT -5
Zutara is categorized as "FLAMING PASSION!!1!!" because that's what 99% of its supporters claim it is.
I personally see any Zuko relationship being hideously awkward, but that's me.
It can take a mile or more for a train to stop...
I think the cow is pretty much squished...the train can't stop in time...
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RE: Everything else...
Kataang is so obvious it won't happen? The "Kataang is obvious" line works both ways. I see Kataang's obvious-ness as a tool for both sides. Sometimes the obvious pair happens, sometimes it does not. There are plenty of examples in all sorts of stories.
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