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Post by stinkypinky on May 12, 2007 18:06:58 GMT -5
Spoilers for those who aren't reading the manga
This was being discussed in Narutoforums, and I thought it was an interesting thread.
What makes Shikamaru's revenge against Kakuzu and Hidan different from Sasuke's rvenge against Itachi? In both cases they both witnessed their precious person(s) killed. They both vowed to avenge that person(s)
Revenge seems to be frowned upon in Konoha. Kakashi tells Sasuke to forget about his obsession, Tsunade tells team 10 to not go after Hidan and Kakuzu. But Kakashi offers to help Shikamaru in his vengeance and not Sasuke's. What makes their revenge different from eachother?
Did Kishi simply forgot, or is the different measures Shikamaru and Sasuke took to reach that revenge?
Discuss, and please DO NOT GET OFF TOPIC!
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Post by waterfire (I am back!!!) on May 12, 2007 18:46:22 GMT -5
Was Shikamaru that obsess with revenge?
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Post by Tungsten on May 12, 2007 18:53:13 GMT -5
The thing about Shikamaru is how far he was willing to go to get his revenge. He stayed calm he thought things through and didn't sacrafice his mental health in order to get his vengence. Sasuke on the other hand became obsessed and betrayed his comrades in order to gain power. Shikamaru was more of a team player and was more willing to seek help from his friends, while Sasuke rejected his friends and is more using his new team rather than working with them.
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Post by waterfire (I am back!!!) on May 12, 2007 19:31:28 GMT -5
That is why Shikamaru is smarter then Sauske.
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Post by Sakura Uchiha on May 12, 2007 21:08:55 GMT -5
so that explains why!
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Post by waterfire (I am back!!!) on May 12, 2007 21:42:02 GMT -5
We know that Sakura and Shikarmaru are smart. Since Shikamaru is smarter on revenge then Sasuke. So Sakura is smarter the Sasuke consider the fact that S and S have the samw IQ
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Post by stinkypinky on May 13, 2007 10:57:57 GMT -5
The thing about Shikamaru is how far he was willing to go to get his revenge. He stayed calm he thought things through and didn't sacrafice his mental health in order to get his vengence. Sasuke on the other hand became obsessed and betrayed his comrades in order to gain power. Shikamaru was more of a team player and was more willing to seek help from his friends, while Sasuke rejected his friends and is more using his new team rather than working with them. I agree. Sasuke has already been shown since the begining heading down a dark path. He's been compared to his brother growing up by his own clan, being overshadowed by him, and when he sees what Itachi has done, vowed to do anything to kill him. When he becomes part of team 7 even he himself tells himself that he was getting distracted by them, that when he saw Naruto had surpassed him and that Itachi was after Naruto and NOT Sasuke, once again he felt inferior. So what does he do? He abdanons his village to join a man, who not long ago just killed the 3rd and tried to destroy his village. All for revenge, he tries to kill Naruto when he follows. And only stops because he doesn;t want to be his brother. In the time skip he was about to kill them all, just to prove he no longer felt attached to them, so if he had kiled Naruto he would not have obtained the MS. Now he is only using his new team for his revenge, he probably doesn't give a dang about their fate. He is bound to fail again, because he still hasn't learned the theme of the story. |
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Post by Sakura Uchiha on May 13, 2007 15:23:51 GMT -5
but why can't sasuke ask his friends to help him?
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Post by stinkypinky on May 13, 2007 15:33:32 GMT -5
but why can't sasuke ask his friends to help him? He considered his old team as a distraction from his revenge. They held him back. So he left, and now he is just using his new team. |
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Post by waterfire (I am back!!!) on May 13, 2007 16:38:37 GMT -5
That is why Sakura is smarter then him while she was trying to stop him. But she didn't oh well she tried.
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Post by Sakura Uchiha on May 13, 2007 17:23:00 GMT -5
she did a lot of hard work to stop him
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Post by waterfire (I am back!!!) on May 13, 2007 18:05:01 GMT -5
Yep and now Sauke turn all emo and stupid and its surprising that Sakura is a genious like Shikamaru. I mean Kabuto said that her mind is above Genin Level during the Chunin exams (I got that from the book).
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Post by stinkypinky on May 14, 2007 17:05:59 GMT -5
Yep and now Sauke turn all emo and stupid and its surprising that Sakura is a genious like Shikamaru. I mean Kabuto said that her mind is above Genin Level during the Chunin exams (I got that from the book). Sakura is in now way near Shikamaru's genius. You have to remember that Shikamaru is also lazy, and finds things troublesome XP But when he is really serious about something (like the Sasuke retrieval arc or recently team 10 arc) he truly is a hard worker and does care for the welfare of his team. |
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Post by waterfire (I am back!!!) on May 16, 2007 22:09:48 GMT -5
Yeah I just love the lazy ones for some reason but i also like the hard working ones too.
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