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Post by paintedrose on Apr 15, 2007 1:07:06 GMT -5
[rant]One of the reasons I'm so against Mai is BECAUSE she's Fire Nation...for Zuko to accept her is for him to accept everything the Fire Nation is and that would keep him firmly on the Dark Side and that's something the majority of the fandom don't want. And the fact that they're both fairly sombre people...jeez, where would be the spark in that? There'd be no heat...no passion...what would be the point? Unless the creators do something to prove otherwise, the pairing holds about as much excitment to me as a limp noodle...[/end rant] Karma! Thank you for saying what I was too afraid to say. I've been hearing things about Zuko being "whipped" by Mai in the future and I hope this isn't true, because it would be so....boring and out of character for both of them. But I said Katara. This pairing would hold my attention. Plus, their personalities go so well together. For instance, when Zuko is being hotheaded (haha) Katara can knock him down a peg or two....which Zuko needs from time to time. lol And we've already seen these two share secrets that they haven't even told their closest friends and relatives. They have a connection.
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Post by samfan911 on Apr 15, 2007 1:44:27 GMT -5
I say Meng because they both can stalk Aang together ;D
Wouldn't that be a treat.
But seriously I don't really know who's best for Zuko.
Katara- yeah she's understandable Song-bit of a softy, but I think she gets him a lot. Mai-Both can be Azula's follower together. Plus they may have somethings in common. Jin-So innocent that it makes Zuko in love Blah....
I could go on, but I think new girl characters may catch my eye.
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Post by luckydime on Apr 15, 2007 7:34:29 GMT -5
I am going to have to say Mai out of the current position and what we know about these characters. Katara is a nice girl and all but it just seems to me no matter what positive memory they have of each other it turns into violence, and a fight. If Katara and Zuko were ever to get together it would probably be a lot fighting, and in our world that would lead to a divorce.
As for Song, she was a nice girl who helped Zuko develop a lot, same goes for Jin. But, I do not think we will see them again for awhile possibly never again. But who knows?
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Post by zebradonkey on Apr 15, 2007 7:50:24 GMT -5
I think Mai would go best with Zuko. I have absolutely nothing against Jin and Song, but i don't think they're coming back. But if they do *thumbs up* more power to Zujin and Soko
As for Katara, she's doing just fine with Aang so i'm not even going to count her
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Post by aangryjerk on Apr 15, 2007 8:48:29 GMT -5
Thought I'd add my two cents, as I'm getting quite tired of the misunderstanding when it comes to Song. Granted, no one's seen her since CoTL, but still, I don't like seeing the facts misinterpreted and twisted around into something that just is not true. Seriously, I'm not trying to twist facts to suit some hidden agenda. I'm just addressing the original post--which girl deserves Zuko. And since Song was mentioned, I wanted to say maybe she doesn't deserve him because he would hurt her, and she would feel that hurt more keenly than the other girls discussed. I'm thinking of what she deserves, and I think she would deserve a guy who treats her more kindly. I know you disagree but I don't see any other way to read Song's character. Her sensitivity is what makes her so compassionate, but it also makes her vulnerable. I did try to suggest that Zuko has changed since then. He has shown encouraging signs that he can be compassionate, so I don't think he would be such a callous jerk to her if they met again. But I think if they are to have a relationship, Song has to have changed too by reigning in that sensitivity a bit. Agree with you about Katara, she's such a loose cannon sometimes. I do kind of like the Zutara ship, but realistically they probably would end up maiming each other. (Are angry Zutarans going to hate on me now?)
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Post by Kataang101 on Apr 15, 2007 10:23:02 GMT -5
I think it should be Jin.
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Post by Nietzsche on Apr 15, 2007 10:47:03 GMT -5
"Deserves" Zuko? Like, he's a treat, or a punishment? Because right now, I wouldn't wish Zuko on anyone.
But I think he'd work well with Mai.
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Post by sonnig on Apr 15, 2007 11:14:38 GMT -5
Opposites attract because they are not really opposites, but complementaries. - Sydney J. Harris ;)I think Zutara is cute, and I have a feeling (since the first episode) that it will happen ... Sure I might me alittle idealistic, even when all the signs are pointing the wrong way but its always seemed that Kataang is too predictable. Katara deserves Zuko! she completes him!
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Post by Ana on Apr 15, 2007 11:31:34 GMT -5
I've been hearing things about Zuko being "whipped" by Mai in the future and I hope this isn't true, because it would be so....boring and out of character for both of them. How so? Going by The Tales of Ba Sing Sei I don’t think it’s totally OOC if he wasn’t the dominate one in the relationship. As Mai being Fire Nation, I don’t see how that would guarantee him a place on the Dark Side. He could still like Mai and not like what’s going on in his country. Agree with you about Katara, she's such a loose cannon sometimes. I do kind of like the Zutara ship, but realistically they probably would end up maiming each other. (Are angry Zutarans going to hate on me now?) Yes. But honestly, sticking two hot headed people together will most likely not end well. Zuko and Katara are both very firm in their opinions and when they encounter someone who opposes said opinion the usually show their tempers (see: The Chase for Katara). If we are dealing with that I reallly don't think they're suited. I say Meng because they both can stalk Aang together ;D Oh, that would be funny. They can be stalking buddies (unfortunately for them Aang has his heart set on someone else)!
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Post by lexlex on Apr 15, 2007 12:33:06 GMT -5
i think he would b good with either mai or katara. mai has known him longer but katara understands him now. so idk but i picked mai. mai also hasnt seen him with his scar...maybe that will turn her off idk.
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Post by inuyatta on Apr 15, 2007 14:07:00 GMT -5
Seriously, I'm not trying to twist facts to suit some hidden agenda. I'm just addressing the original post--which girl deserves Zuko. And since Song was mentioned, I wanted to say maybe she doesn't deserve him because he would hurt her, and she would feel that hurt more keenly than the other girls discussed. I'm thinking of what she deserves, and I think she would deserve a guy who treats her more kindly. I know you disagree but I don't see any other way to read Song's character. Her sensitivity is what makes her so compassionate, but it also makes her vulnerable. I did try to suggest that Zuko has changed since then. He has shown encouraging signs that he can be compassionate, so I don't think he would be such a callous jerk to her if they met again. But I think if they are to have a relationship, Song has to have changed too by reigning in that sensitivity a bit. Agree with you about Katara, she's such a loose cannon sometimes. I do kind of like the Zutara ship, but realistically they probably would end up maiming each other. (Are angry Zutarans going to hate on me now?) I know you weren't twisting it--but I have seen plenty others do so. I do agree, she deserves a guy who would treat her more kindly, and hopefully by the end of the series, that might be the kind of guy Zuko becomes. Not sure what you mean by the sensitivity bit though--do you mean she's too trusting? Because that I can probably see. Probably blinded by her earnest enthusiasm to help those who were in her position and having difficult times. As far as her reactions go, I thought she handled things very well. -She didn't get offended when Zuko initially refused her invitation, and merely let it go until Iroh accepted. -She was depressed when remembering how long it has been since she saw her father, but she did not dissolve into a tearful mess like Katara did in the cave (not blaming either one, everyone handles their grief differently). -She was not offended when Zuko stopped her attempt to touch his scar--merely understood and tried to make him see that he really was not alone by showing her scars. -Up until the very end of the night, she kept trying to instill some hope in Zuko, and watched with concern as they left--then he stole their pet. She was in shock, then disappointment (compare with Iroh in the finale) and slid the door closed. So it seems she took a gamble and lost--or maybe she eventually broke even. Hard to say exactly as of right now. Anywhoodle, I imagine a truly oversensitive person would have made a big scene out of every opportunity, and Song did not. Based on the evidence, I'd really have to say Katara is far more sensitive, as she can pretty much be baited into a temper by clumsy words (Aang, CoTL), verbal confrontation (Toph, The Chase), or even just a sudden reappearance of someone she left on less than ideal terms (Jet, Lake Laogai/ Zuko, Crossroads of Destiny). Do we blame her for any of it? I certainly don't, I think she acts exactly as I would expect of a 14-15 year old in her situation. If this is getting off topic, please feel free to PM me or something--this is actually helping distract me from the AWS.
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Post by yiceman on Apr 15, 2007 18:11:16 GMT -5
I've been hearing things about Zuko being "whipped" by Mai in the future and I hope this isn't true, because it would be so....boring and out of character for both of them. How so? Going by The Tales of Bae Sing Sae I don’t think it’s totally OOC if he wasn’t the dominate one in the relationship. As Mai being Fire Nation, I don’t see how that would guarantee him a place on the Dark Side. He could still like Mai and not like what’s going on in his country. Yes. But honestly, sticking two hot headed people together will most likely not end well. Zuko and Katara are both very firm in their opinions and when they encounter someone who opposes said opinion the usually show their tempers (see: The Chase for Katara). How does that make them suited? I say Meng because they both can stalk Aang together ;D Oh, that would be funny. They can be stalking buddies (unfortunately for them Aang has his heart set on someone else)! Well...we only have one scene of Zuko and Katara actually having a conversation. It seems like they got on pretty well, neh? Where does this assumption that they would clash with each other stem from, then? From the only piece of evidence we have of them talking, it seemed to work pretty well.
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Post by mindbender18 on Apr 15, 2007 18:17:29 GMT -5
I chose Mai.
Lol, I also love the way the shipping wars have shifting from Kataang vs. Zutara to Maiko vs. Zutara in nothing flat
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Post by Ana on Apr 15, 2007 20:00:18 GMT -5
From the only piece of evidence we have of them talking, it seemed to work pretty well. True, but that "peace" only lasted for however long they were in the cave. Since Zuko and Katara have only interacted 5 or so times we have to guess how they would act in a romantic relationship. Going by that some, like myself, think they would be a horrible match. But then, quite a number think Z and K are match made in heaven. Lol, I also love the way the shipping wars have shifting from Kataang vs. Zutara to Maiko vs. Zutara in nothing flat Poor Zutarains. They’re getting into wars all over the place.
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Post by yiceman on Apr 15, 2007 20:23:15 GMT -5
Yet your insistence is that their personalities would clash. In every other example of them interacting, they have fought because of PRINCIPLE. They fought because they were on opposite ends of a war; not because they disliked each other.
Therefore, these don't count as examples of personalities. However, the one scene we have where they weren't in a battle, didn't have encouragement to fight, they did NOT fight. They got on quite well, and considering their history, that's pretty substantial.
So yes, the assumption that their personalities clash is, imo, quite untrue.
It's just like a Communist woman and a Capitalist man during the Cold War. They'll fight each other because they believe in their causes and support their nation. Does this mean they would fight because they dislike each other? No. If the war had never occured, they could very easily get on quite well.
I once knew a girl who was in one of my classes. If I said "up" she would say "Down." We dissagreed on just about every political issue there was. She was Pro-Life, I was Pro-Choice, she was against Gay Marriage I was for it, she was Christian, I believe that we as human beings are just animals who are too dumb to possibly comprehend any sort of higher power that may or may not exist, so out of fear religion was created to answer questions we didn't know, and that if a God exists, it is not anything like what we have written and thought of and it likely doesn't pay us much attention at all.
This girl and I would debate non-stop in that class, going at it verbally and disagreeing on everything.
The only thing that kept me from asking her out was that she already had a boyfriend. Once we were out of that class, we got on fine and enjoyed spending time together and were good friends. We didn't let that stuff interfere with the fact that we genuinly liked one another as people.
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