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Post by wildimagination on Jan 29, 2007 1:36:53 GMT -5
Wow, lots of posts since I left! o.o Anyway, I think Ursa just really cares about Lu Ten alot. Y'know...I mean how would you feel if YOUR nephew died?
Anyway, I love the idea of them meeting secretly. I have this theory that Iroh got Ursa pregnant with either Zuko or Lu Ten!
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Post by Melis on Jan 29, 2007 1:42:07 GMT -5
Oooh, I like that theory. There's a lot of theories like that floating around like: What if Iroh is actually Zuko's father? That could be one of the reasons why Ozai disliked Zuko so much, and favored Azula who could be his own child. Also, why Iroh is very protective of Zuko and treats him like his own. Of course, we all know the reason to that one but it can easily be used for that theory, IMO.
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Post by wildimagination on Jan 29, 2007 1:50:47 GMT -5
Wow...suddenly, I don't feel ridiculous for posting that theory.
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Post by Melis on Jan 29, 2007 1:55:50 GMT -5
Don't feel ridiculous! There was a theory going around that Zuko was going to join Azula. It seemed ridiculous at first but then look what happened in the season finale. I can't really find any other hints to link Iroh/Ursa together in canon, besides the one above, and that from the looks in "Zuko Alone", they seemed pretty close. I see Iroh as being a confidant for Ursa, probably someone who was there for her more than Ozai was. I really do think that he loved her though, so that makes it a: Ozai/Ursa/Iroh triangle going on in my head. xD
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Post by Snowbunny on Jan 29, 2007 15:39:22 GMT -5
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Post by wildimagination on Jan 29, 2007 20:47:32 GMT -5
True, but that could also mean he just couldn't face Zuko. I mean, would you wanna face your kid after you killed your wife/husband?
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Post by Coral on Jan 30, 2007 13:35:49 GMT -5
There is an Iroh/Ursa thread?! I hadn't noticed it before...Ahem...Well...I can imagine if it turns out Zuko is indeed Iroh's son. Maybe that's why there are so many issues with Azula and Ozai...
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Post by wildimagination on Jan 30, 2007 18:08:53 GMT -5
Yeah, but we're saying Ozai and Azula DON'T KNOW about the whole Irusa thing.
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Post by Kirsten on Jan 30, 2007 18:35:50 GMT -5
I like this ship. Uras and Iroh would probabley be a better couple than Ursa and Ozai.
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Post by Melis on Jan 30, 2007 19:15:22 GMT -5
I like this ship. Uras and Iroh would probabley be a better couple than Ursa and Ozai. Haha, does that make Iroh/Ursa = Kataang and Ozai/Ursa = Zutara? *shot* As evil as he looks, I don't think Ozai is capable of killing Ursa. From that screencap, he seemed to be really upset about her leaving. I think he did love her, or had some sort of romantic feelings for her. You can say that Ozai blames Zuko for Ursa leaving, since she protected him instead of her own husband, and had to leave because of Zuko. Not only that, but he could've been jealous of his own son because he was able to get the attention Ozai wanted from her.
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Post by kaangluv on Jan 30, 2007 19:23:58 GMT -5
Ooh! I'll join!
It's a very realistic and likely canon pairing, although I'm not sure Nick would condone 'cheating'...Ah well. I would definitely ship this!
Personally, I felt like the Zuko Alone backshot was very mysterious. The creators purposefully hid Ozai's face, and we therefore have trouble drawing conclusions about his feelings and theorizing about motives simply because we cannot see his reactions. Unfortunantely, with Nick being what it is, I'm not sure if Avatar fans will find out who killed Ursa, unless it is too 'graphic'.
Pfffttt.
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Post by Lady Ursa on Jan 30, 2007 23:19:09 GMT -5
Interesting theory. But then what would happen to Ilah? Course, we never heard anything about her... I used to think Azula was the older child. And if Ozai and Ursa were unable to bear a son... okay too much info.
Iroh and Ursa definitely would've been close, but I wouldn't go so far as to say something like what the OzaiXUrsa relationship would've been entitled to.
And if Iroh managed to see Ursa again (URSA LIVES!!! actually, I dunno), maybe he could convince her to talk some sense into her son...
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Post by Melis on Jan 30, 2007 23:35:41 GMT -5
Omg it's Ursa! Darn, she crushed our Iroh/Ursa dreams. *Weep* How do you feel about your son Momma Bear? Well, Lady Ilah could've been an arranged marriage and probably died of childbirth. He seems to really love Lu Ten more than his deceased wife, but that's what I speculated since he hardly talks about her. I used to think Azula was older too, but I guess that's just because of her personality.
Iroh doesn't have to convince her, because I'm sure she'd do it either way. I think she's alive, because they made it seem like she's still alive, but that's just me.
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Post by Growly on Jan 31, 2007 0:04:54 GMT -5
I remember discussing the Iroh as Zuko's possible father theory before - it was and still is a favourite of mine. Unfortunately I'd have to hunt back through the posts in the old Zutara threads to find it.
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Post by Coral on Jan 31, 2007 15:32:10 GMT -5
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