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Post by conspiracytheorist on Oct 25, 2007 0:59:39 GMT -5
Not to spoil it for everyone, but the Avatar and the Firelord has got to be the best episode so far. Roku and Sozin… wow, just wow. This episode is what I think a lot of the fans having been waiting for, an episode that contributes in a big way to the main storyline, and begins to clear up some of what was left hanging last season, while also setting up some stuff for the future. For real. Everybody spoil yourselves NOW! It's so worth it. =D
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Post by bloodbender on Oct 26, 2007 8:21:34 GMT -5
Yeah it really is just that good! The highlight of the season.
As for my thoughts on the season its been good but not great
The Awakening just felt rushed
The Headband was solid but nothing special
The Painted Lady while I know it wasn't technically a filler still kind of felt like one in the sense that it was a pretty boring episode
Sokka’s Master was a well deserved episode for a character that has been seriously overlooked and neglected as a whole. Also it was more light hearted like the early avvie days.
The Beach was good but I didn't think AangG really needed to be included in it
The Avatar And The Firelord has been the best of the series so far and the twist I never saw coming
I won't say anything about episodes 7 and 8 but for links to them PM me...
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Post by zukofan21 on Oct 26, 2007 22:29:03 GMT -5
In my opinion...none of us can say what the "majority" of fans think unless we've personally surveyed all of the millions of Avatar fans. As for me, I'm currently very much satisfied and am hungry for more! Me too it seems like lots of people are rippin this season so far like lots of people ripped season 2 apart when its first five episodes aired. The Avatar State was rushed...The Swamp was boring...Avatar Day was stupid...The season really isn't starting out any worse than season 2 did in my opinion. It's not bad. I personally like it so far.
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Post by pg15 on Oct 26, 2007 23:02:47 GMT -5
I just watched "The Avatar and the Firelord".
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The season just got 10 times better.
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Post by pressie on Oct 29, 2007 19:33:00 GMT -5
The Fire Lord is pretty much the only great episode this season. i like the painted lady because it showed katara as a kick Equus asinus character which we haven't really seen since season 1.
toph is like nonexistent which sucks since she's awesome. sokka's master was decent though i think it took up too much time.
i've seen the next 3 episodes so i can't really state my opinion on the half season as a whole.
I did like season 2 better.
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Post by quazar on Oct 29, 2007 23:43:06 GMT -5
the episodes just keep getting better. 309 is brilliant, just brilliant. On the UK threads people are conflicted about it but i think it's great. Just you wait, wow.
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Post by dragonflly on Oct 30, 2007 0:07:18 GMT -5
The plot/storyline is almost nonexistant. Halfway through and we've seen a bunch of eppies that just leave the feeling of fillers. Although these episodes are entertaining, they just don't give the story a boost, they're all over the place. It's just moving so slowly, what I feared seems to be happening. It's all gonna be rushed and stuffed in all at once. I really hate that. Take the time to make it good, spread it out, for Pete's sake. Don't throw it all together to the point where if we blink we'll miss the most important part. So far, barring a few eppies, this half of the season is a bit disappointing.
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Post by fuego on Oct 30, 2007 0:18:30 GMT -5
well what the main story...we know that there going to be an attack and there just waiting, in the mean time there just discovery. I have no idea what people want in there third season...so not shock since I known or had a feeling that "day" was going to be during the middle of the season.
again we just want something that we thought make scene in our own thoughts like how aang hasn't learn fire bending...people are starting to worry about that thought.
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Post by Ryth76 on Oct 30, 2007 1:16:47 GMT -5
The plot/storyline is almost nonexistant. Halfway through and we've seen a bunch of eppies that just leave the feeling of fillers. Although these episodes are entertaining, they just don't give the story a boost, they're all over the place. It's just moving so slowly, what I feared seems to be happening. It's all gonna be rushed and stuffed in all at once. I really hate that. Take the time to make it good, spread it out, for Pete's sake. Don't throw it all together to the point where if we blink we'll miss the most important part. So far, barring a few eppies, this half of the season is a bit disappointing. How do they leave the feeling of fillers? Awakening - Aang burns his staff and comes to terms that it's not his fault the world is at war and there is still hope; Zuko sees Ozai again and the road to hiring CM begins. Headband - Aang plants the first seeds for a desire for freedom in the minds of children in the Fire Nation. The gaang gets their new outfits and there is Kataang. Zuko hires the CM. Painted Lady - We don't know yet if what happened in this episode will have effect on future episodes. Jet was thought to be filler, until he reappeared. So is Imprisoned, but we don't know if those earthbenders are going to reappear or not yet. Sokka's Master - Sokka learning to swordfight, his new trademark fighting technique. Much needed Sokka development. Also, learning a completely new technique generally does take an entire episode. Such as 209 and 116. The Beach - character development, Zuko admitting his anger toward himself, Maiko development, and various bits. Seeing Mai and Ty Lee with more emotions. The events of this episode do have some effect later on, so I guess it couldn't be called a complete waste. The Avatar and the Fire Lord - No comment. If you think this is filler something's wrong with you. I'm not going to say anything about the next three episodes because they haven't come out in the US. However, I will say they (or at least the majority of the scenes shown) are vital for character development and possibly reoccurring details. I think it's good that the first half of this season centers more on character development because right now that is almost all that can go on right now. The next half will be packed with more tying of ends and fighting, learning firebending, and fighting the Fire Lord. Crap! Just realized... Essentially, there will only be six more episodes before the grand 3-part finale, so I guess it'll be pretty rushed... Which means technically, as far as normal Avatar episodes go, we're past the halfway point. It could be that this series is going to end with a few lose threads left... that's fine with me. Many series do that. Leaves something for the fans to discuss and theorize over. Tying too many threads and/or explaining too much (the infamous Harrp Potter epilogue) can be worse. Maybe they'll leave some things to the imagination so the fans can theorize.
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Post by wiiboy on Oct 30, 2007 5:55:31 GMT -5
Well I do not hate any of the episodes. I love all of them too dang much, I wish I hated one like all of you guys do. I guess I am nothing but a miserable loser. But I at least do have a least favorite. A role previously filled by The Great Divide, but that episode grew on me too much. The Painted Lady is probably my least favorite episode so far, since it just seemed like it didn't fit within the other episodes.
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Post by Ryth76 on Oct 30, 2007 18:51:28 GMT -5
I watched all three seasons (well, the first two and all nine episodes of the third) this week end, and realized that this season is no different than the others. I think that's the problem. This season should be faster paced and more pinpointed than the previous two, but it's just the same as the others.
There was funky anime expressions, ridiculous fillery episodes (none as ridiculous/ingenious as NM&DD though), and seemingly pointless episodes (some turned out to have some significance to either the plot or the characters' personalities) in the previous seasons, too. Maybe not so much of the anime expressions, but that's not the point. The point is, that was then and this is now, so people were expecting a change of pace and rise of quality which didn't really happen (though the music is beautiful and there's no LL or Chase-style animation yet).
The only thing that would've really happened by now by past season standards is Aang starting firebending, which is pointless right now because of the invasion plan.
309 was silly, but I bet it'll be the last silly episode in a long time. Remember, the creators wanted balance, so I bet DoBS will end far worse than any of us suspect and the next few episodes will still have the feeling of hopelessness (that was their "best bet," remember?).
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Post by volcomxreckless on Oct 30, 2007 19:06:34 GMT -5
308 was SO awesome! I'm still gonna watch the episodes on TV though! =P
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Post by tatgrrl24 on Oct 30, 2007 20:32:48 GMT -5
I've loved every ep so far ... I don't think any of it is filler - no more than the first 5 eps of season 1 or 2. Awakening: Rushed, yes ... but would you prefer they waste 5 eps of the season with Aang still unconcious? The Headband: We learn about the propaganda. This is very important because it explains why the FN people are the way they are towards the rest of the world ... they've been lied to since a very young age. I hope we'll see the payoff when the FN learns the truth but it may not be shown - only alluded to. The Painted Lady: Does anyone here really think it's not important for the Avatar to have supporters in the Fire Nation - I think he is eventually going to need all of the help he can get. Especially if the invasion does not go as planned. The Beach: I loved this ep, I really felt at the end like this was a chink in Azula's armor. There is something that hurt her once, there is something she envies Zuko over - I felt very hopeful at the end of the ep as if in the end the tables would be turned and Azula would be the one left with nothing and Zuko with everything. Like that one little moment of weakness was the beginning of her downfall. The Avatar and the Firelord: No description needed ... Total awesomnessitude!! For those who haven't watched ... just WOW ... wear Depends. I will say I agree, the pacing is a little off but I actually like the disjointed feel of it - like it's not quite coming together the way it should ... similar to the invasion itself. I have to wonder if they're not doing it on purpose ... making it feel not quite right, inviting the sense of foreboding of the battle to come. /rambling
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Post by thelastavatar on Oct 30, 2007 22:54:40 GMT -5
The Awakening did feel rushed, they could have fleshed out the emotional turmoil going on, perhaps a few more flashbacks about what happened. Like Appa suddenly getting his saddle back.
The first few episodes I think are to provide a better view of normal life in the Fire Nation, that they really are normal people under the propaganda and jazz. We see they have schools, pollution, industry vs agriculture; basically, a lot of things many nations today face. Personally, Headband hit the mark about helping the Fire Nation people than Painted Lady. The only major thing we learn from Painted Lady is that Katara is willing to stick to a healer's motto: to never turn their backs on people.
Wondering how they are gonna fit in learning and mastering firebending in...what...6-8 episodes, if they get in learning in each one? Unless there is going to be a crazy plot twist in here somewhere...
Beach and AaFL start setting the stage basically for the final conflict: why the characters chose their sides, and how the war basically started. Maybe there will be one in the future that deals with the Gaang's side.
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Post by pg15 on Oct 31, 2007 0:09:26 GMT -5
Well, as far as I'm concerned, the beginning of Season 2 wasn't much different:
The Avatar State/The Awakening: Both are setup episodes, in that they setup the characters for the new season. Aang et. All set out o get a Earthbending teacher while Iroh and Zuko become fugitives in Avatar State, while Aang et. All enter the Fire Nation and prepare for the Invasion while Iroh and Zuko return home in Awakening.
COTL/Headband: Both are funny little shippy episodes...yeah, that's about it.
Return to Omashu/The Painted Lady: Both involve our characters getting into trouble in order to rescue someone/thing (Aang -> Bumi, Katara -> the village); although, I suppose Book 2 was better in this respect since it's a call back to the Omashu "storyline".
The Swamp/Sokka's Master: The Swamp was pretty much filler except for the return of the Blue Spirit, while Sokka's Master was setup of Sokka's major sword skillz later on. I'd like to give this to Book 3.
Avatar Day/The Beach: Whether people liked it or not, The Beach did offer quite a bit of info and development for the Fire Nation babes (and Zuko), while Avatar Day revealed a little about Avatar Kyoshi and Zuko leaves Iroh. I'd still give it to Book 3.
The Blind Bandit/The Avatar and the Firelord: Both are fantastic episodes that really move the plot along. A tie.
So of the 1st 6 episodes of both seasons, there aren't much of a difference. I haven't seen the rest of the first half so I won't comment.
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