Angel Eyes
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Post by Angel Eyes on Oct 24, 2006 2:07:37 GMT -5
Would you tolerate homosexuality? Is it wrong, and if so, why, and vice versa.
I don't mind homosexuality, but at the same time, I wonder why homosexulas turn to the same sex for love, etc.
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Grandi
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Post by Grandi on Oct 24, 2006 2:22:39 GMT -5
First of all, I would like to state that no bashing of anybody will be allowed in this topic. Make your point intelligently, without namecalling and back it up.
As for my own point of view, I have no problem with homosexuality. I believe it to be natural and somewhat genetic. In fact, homosexuality isn't just an occurance in humans, the animal kingdom (especially marine birds and mamals) have a signifigant homosexual population.
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Angel Eyes
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Post by Angel Eyes on Oct 24, 2006 3:13:23 GMT -5
^ Seriously? Whoa, cool.
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Post by Earth King Sunny on Oct 24, 2006 6:37:43 GMT -5
The main opponent of homosexuality is religion mainly because of leviticus. But I have no religion trying to control me, in fact I work for a gay person
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Gandalan
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Post by Gandalan on Oct 24, 2006 8:36:44 GMT -5
I am a Christian, and I TOLERATE it. I have a few gay friends, but I wouldn't support gay marriage (legal unions maybe, but not marriage). MO.
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Post by girlunderglass on Oct 24, 2006 11:49:42 GMT -5
I truly believe homosexuality is very much genetical as well as personal preference. I have never had an issue with anyone's sexual orientation as long as all parties involved are of age and consent to what they are doing.
What people do behind their bedroom door is absolutely none of my business.. just as what I do behind mine is my own business as well.
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Hotaru
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Post by Hotaru on Oct 24, 2006 14:26:29 GMT -5
I think that homosexuality is a choice to the person who gets the impulse to be les/gay. Nobody should be made fun of for it, but when they protest present it, I find it VERY inpropriate.
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Post by demonofthewest on Oct 24, 2006 17:47:24 GMT -5
I tolerate, and fully accept those who are homosexual. Gay people aren't really a threat to anything or anyone, so I fail to understand why they are so often criticized. As for gay marriage, yes, I support that too. I understand that the Bible is against it, but there are many other religions besides judeo-christianity and Islam. There are even christian denominations that now support gay marriage. If you read the section in Leviticus, you'll also notice that it says you can't trim your beard and hair a certain way, and you can't eat pork either. There's actually a lot of stuff in the Bible that fundamentalist Christians unknowingly violate.
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Zink
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Post by Zink on Oct 24, 2006 19:25:35 GMT -5
^ That's very true. I attempted to read the Bible cover-to-cover once, and was doing pretty well till I hit Leviticus. Then... kaput.
I go to a Christan church nearly every Sunday. When I say nearly, I mean my family probably misses about 8 services a year. And so does the pianist. And guess what? He's gay. He's a great person and has lost a couple of jobs due in part to his homosexuality because his co-workers were too closed-minded to accept the prescense of a homosexual person at their workplace. He really loved both of those jobs, and likely would have chosen not to be gay if he could. But he can't. It's who he is, and he shouldn't have to change it to be accepted by society. If only the people we chose to alienate deserved it.
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Post by chinkodrill on Oct 24, 2006 19:59:34 GMT -5
Well most scientific evidence points to abnormal hormone levels during fetal development as the cause for homosexuality. Experiment on rats developing in the womb (in utero) show that male rats that were sterilized and exposed to high levels of estrogen in utero would develop feminine behavior as adults (would submit to being mounted, you know what it means) and that female rats exposed to high levels of testosterone in utero would develop masculine behavior (would mount). There is also the case of the freemartin: a female cow born with a male twin, the result is that she will be sterile and she will act like a freemartin (the term is also another slang term for lesbian, guess why)
By the way a discussions on philosophy, ethics and science on a forum for a cartoon show, I’m impress really I am.
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gambitia
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Post by gambitia on Oct 24, 2006 20:11:56 GMT -5
I've heard pretty much the same thing. This explains why there's no so-called "gay gene"; there's nothing in the homosexual person's genome that makes them homosexual because the gene (or whatever it is, I can't remember) was actually in their mother.
Dang, now I want to find that study again...
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Post by writer on Oct 24, 2006 20:32:35 GMT -5
Accually the only time Male/Male mounting accours is for dominance. Animals have sex to reprouduce. Only dolphins and bonobos do it for the hell of it
As for my stand. I don't really know. My friend states that Leviticus is mistranslation. That it's more or less ment to me a mistake. It's not socially right, or something like that. My theory is that King David had fling with Johnathan. But that just me. I like yaoi, simply for athestics. And some plot reasons. My characters bi/gay to reflect certain situations. As for RL. It's not my place to know what going on in the bedroom <<
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Grandi
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Post by Grandi on Oct 24, 2006 20:45:10 GMT -5
Accually the only time Male/Male mounting accours is for dominance. Animals have sex to reprouduce. Only dolphins and bonobos do it for the hell of it. Homosexual behaviour does occur in the animal kingdom, especially in social species, particularly in marine birds and mammals, monkeys and the great apes. Homosexual behaviour has been observed among 1,500 species, and in 500 of those it is well documented.[11] Georgetown University professor Janet Mann has specifically theorised that homosexual behaviour, at least in dolphins, is an evolutionary advantage that minimises intraspecies aggression, especially among males. Male penguin couples have been documented to mate for life, build nests together, and to use a stone as a surrogate egg in nesting and brooding. In 2004, the Central Park Zoo in the United States replaced one male couple's stone with a fertile egg, which the couple then raised as their own offspring.[12] German and Japanese zoos have also reported homosexual behaviour among their penguins. This phenomenon has also been reported at Kelly Tarlton's Aquarium in Auckland, New Zealand. Courtship, mounting, and full anal penetration between bulls has been noted to occur among American Bison. The Mandan nation Okipa festival concludes with a ceremonial enactment of this behaviour, to "ensure the return of the buffalo in the coming season." [citation needed] Also, mounting of one female by another is common among cattle. (See also, Freemartin. Freemartins occur because of clearly causal hormonal factors at work during gestation.) Homosexual behaviour in male sheep (found in 6-10% of rams) is associated with variations in cerebral mass distribution and chemical activity. A study reported in Endocrinology concluded that biological and physiological factors are in effect.[13] These findings are similar to human findings studied by Simon LeVay. Male bighorn sheep are divisible into two kinds, the typical males among whom homosexual behavior is common and "effiminate sheep" or "behavioral transvestites" which are not known to engage in homosexual behavior. [14] [15] from wiki en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality
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Post by [[Himiko]] on Oct 24, 2006 20:50:24 GMT -5
I am totally against homosexuality. It's not that i hate the people cuz i dont and i have some gay friends but I'm a Christian, and the Bible tells me that it is wrong. God's word is absolute truth so i have to obey it. I'm not meaning to bash anyone, and im not trying to let a religion hold onto me. I dont really have a set "religion"... I attend a Bible teaching church, not a specific religion. it just happens to be Baptist. But, no.. I totally disagree with homosexuality.
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Post by thedudeishere on Oct 24, 2006 21:51:02 GMT -5
Ok. My viewpoint.
I am against homosexuality because of the Bible. (And, no, the regulations about shaving your hair and eating pork are not an analogy to the regulation against homosexuality, but that's another topic, and one that is quite lengthy) However, I don't enforce it on public policy because we aren't a theocracy. Also, I think that there is very little evidence for a genetic predisposition towards homosexuality, mainly because most of the major studies alleging a "gay gene" have been significantly flawed in their methodology (which is another big issue, which I might bring up should someone respond to this post). However, one thing I have to say is that if it's genetic, then it's a multitude of genes working together to create a predisposition (of any level) towards a certain sexual orientation.
Just my take.
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