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Post by fuego on Apr 5, 2008 18:40:07 GMT -5
I laugh because there was so much backlash with this episode speicaly the idea of azula not badass in any enviroment like The Beach and make her feel inadequate..an apperently any azula fan(girl) dose not like that.
Now I hearing good vibes from this episode...not hearing the best episode EVA type. Just enought for people to stop being cranky over the episode.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2008 1:50:36 GMT -5
^ I always thought this episode was great it was one of my favorites since the first time I saw it.
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Post by nandireya on Apr 6, 2008 1:52:59 GMT -5
And my less favourable opinion of it hasn't changed either...
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Post by kaibasgirl on Apr 6, 2008 2:55:20 GMT -5
And my less favourable opinion of it hasn't changed either... we know that fuego, I'm a huge Azula-fangirl, and I absolutely LOVED her in "The Beach". I thought it was the most brilliant move on part of the writers, showing her in a non-militaristic enviornment
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Post by nandireya on Apr 6, 2008 3:01:05 GMT -5
we know that Yep...first impressions have a big impact on me...
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Post by conspiracytheorist on Apr 6, 2008 18:35:55 GMT -5
I laugh because there was so much backlash with this episode speicaly the idea of azula not badass in any enviroment like The Beach and make her feel inadequate..an apperently any azula fan(girl) dose not like that. Now I hearing good vibes from this episode...not hearing the best episode EVA type. Just enought for people to stop being cranky over the episode. Ever stop to think that maybe the people who thought this episode was a waste of twenty-two minutes of their life aren't clogging up the thread because, y'know, they just couldn't care less?
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Post by kaibasgirl on Apr 7, 2008 0:19:32 GMT -5
Omg, CT is alive =O!
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Post by nandireya on Apr 7, 2008 0:26:54 GMT -5
Well...I don't think it was a complete waste of 22 minutes...but your point certainly is a valid one.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2008 3:46:40 GMT -5
I thought the beach was a good episode not a waste of 22 minutes. It had character development and a fun story line it also had maiko It was different from other episodes but in a good way it bought something new to the characters.
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Post by kaibasgirl on Apr 7, 2008 10:00:40 GMT -5
You know, I have to wonder if most people who hated "The Beach" hated it because of certain events that took place -coughMaikup/outcough- or because they really thought it was filler...
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Post by inuyatta on Apr 8, 2008 0:02:40 GMT -5
Now I know you're fully aware that some people hate it for more than just the rushed maikup. =p
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Post by conspiracytheorist on Apr 8, 2008 0:34:47 GMT -5
You noticed my absence? Well, shucks. =) Be assured that I don't dislike this episode just because it was heavy on the Zuko/Mai. I'm not really a shipper... or a non-shipper. (I know that doesn't make sense lol.) Well, I guess that's not entirely true. There are two characters that I would have liked to see together by the show's end, but they're obviously not going to get together, so I guess that's what's caused my apathy? Well, whatever. Tangents aside, I didn't like The Beach for a whole host of reasons, but the biggest one was the campfire scene. Ty Lee getting on her hands and knees and sobbing about her desire to be an individual was lame melodrama, and Zuko's outburst following the girls' "interrogation" wasn't a lot better. Mai's, "You want me to express myself? Fine, I'LL GO AHEAD AND YELL AT YOU SOME AND THAT WILL BUILD SOME TENSION!" was awkward. And Azula was all parts wacko in that episode. I guess the episode just failed to tickle my funny bone? Any episode that is being driven primarily by humor runs the risk of failing to impress, whereas episodes like "The Blue Spirit" or "Zuko Alone" receive much more praise because they're executed with much more stable framework in place. The only thing that stopped The Beach from being an entirely silly episode was Zuko remembering the summers he had spent with his family at Ember Island before his banishment (probably the high point, for me), and the campfire scene, which was just an "info dump" (thanks to mahatista for the phrase) from where I'm standing. To top it all off, the episode's resolution was lousy. "Hey guys, we just spilled our guts to each other for a good portion of this episode, but instead of ending it on a thought-provoking note, let's trash this guy's house!" Bleargh. BUT that's only one man's opinion.
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Post by kaibasgirl on Apr 8, 2008 1:21:05 GMT -5
Now I know you're fully aware that some people hate it for more than just the rushed maikup. =p LOL! Yes, that I definitely know XD You noticed my absence? Well, shucks. =) Of course! It was much too quiet around here. Can I ask which two character, just for curiosity's sake? XXXXXXDDDDDDDROFL!!! Oh gd, I'm giving you karma for that!! I stand corrected, two karmas. I love how you put things so cynically like that XD but I have to say, the "info dump" was actually important, because what we learnt about Mai and Azula is probably going to come up in later episodes. And the stuff about Ty Lee was kind of, I don't know, I think it was supposed to add depth to her, so she doesn't look like a poster child for Prozac.
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Post by conspiracytheorist on Apr 8, 2008 1:43:02 GMT -5
Can I ask which two character, just for curiosity's sake? Oh... Very well. The two I had originally hoped to see paired up were Aang and Toph. Everything about the episode "The Blind Bandit" just made it click for me. Of course, it was extremely unlikely that they'd get something started due to Katara's very existence. But I can't say that it bothers me one bit that the creative team has chosen to go with the leading man and the leading lady. I wouldn't really call myself a shipper - I was just delighted with the quality of the writing in "The Blind Bandit" and the unbelievable grace with which the geniuses behind this show brought Toph into the picture. I don't even know if Sokka said one word to Toph during that episode, so Aang it was. ;x Oh good, two karmas! I'll be sure not to turn my cynicism switch off in the future. I really hope that the stuff we learned in "The Beach" becomes relevant later. When 317's episode title was revealed to us (can't say it here because of spoilers and whatnot), I had some hope for 305. But then we got that little tidbit about the general storyline that the episode would follow, and my hopes were kinda dashed. As for me calling it an "info dump", that's not a criticism of the fact that a lot of emotions were shared - rather, it's a criticism of the way in which it happened. It seemed somehow contrived to me. If it had been written differently, I might not be here making a big ol' stink. Ty Lee definitely needs some depth to her character. But I like my characters to be deepened without a lot of sobbing over nothing involved. (Also, I like my characters to ACTUALLY SHOW UP EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. GRRR.) Where are you, Ty Lee?! ;__;
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Post by kaibasgirl on Apr 8, 2008 2:04:44 GMT -5
Can I ask which two character, just for curiosity's sake? Oh... Very well. The two I had originally hoped to see paired up were Aang and Toph. -screams- -glass shatters-OMG!! Are you serious?! I though you were going to say Zuko & Katara I don't believe it! CT's a Taanger!!!!!! This is one of my happiest moments on DH YES! I am giving you tons of karma now! Just cause you're a Taanger -cough- anyway, So true. I know T__T "The Blind Bandit" was definitely one of the best episodes the staff came out with. I was especially impressed with their foreshadowing her in "The Swamp", and then revealing her in two episodes as opposed to straight after. I think if they would have done it straight after, it would've cheapened it a bit, so I was pretty happy that they took the time to build the suspense ^^ Oh good, two karmas! I'll be sure not to turn my cynicism switch off in the future. I really hope that the stuff we learned in "The Beach" becomes relevant later. When 317's episode title was revealed to us (can't say it here because of spoilers and whatnot), I had some hope for 305. But then we got that little tidbit about the general storyline that the episode would follow, and my hopes were kinda dashed. we got a general outline of the plot for that episode? I have to check out the spoiler's section. I see what you mean, but for me, I think it had a bit more of a "now let's share our feelings" kind of air, not that I'm complaining, I loved the feelings that were shared, but for comedy sake, they could've stuck in Wang Fire there XD We should be seeing her soon!! Episode 3.14 or something ^^
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