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Post by UnKnownShadow on Oct 19, 2007 2:15:02 GMT -5
All of them can be possible candidates for being in the order. How about spirits, does anyone think they have a connection with the White Lotus?
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Post by Aanglover on Oct 19, 2007 8:54:33 GMT -5
All of them can be possible candidates for being in the order. How about spirits, does anyone think they have a connection with the White Lotus? don't know if this is really useful or not... but i just searched for Lotus in wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_%28symbolism%29The lotus in both Egypt and India symbolizes the union of the four elements; earth, air, fire, and water. The roots are in the earth, it grows in and by means of water, its leaves are nourished by air, and it blooms through the power of the sun's fire. The lotus is therefore the perfection of the fourfold order of the natural world. The growth of a new flower directly from the earth-bound original (infloresent proliferation) may be interpreted as a symbol of transcendence as found in Indian philosphophy: a spiritual emergence of a higher world directly from our physical manifestation. It may also be interpreted, as in Egypt, as the exaltation of the essence quality of the lotus.does anyone ever question why Iroh is in the White Lotus Society???
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Post by anitajob on Oct 19, 2007 16:00:47 GMT -5
All of them can be possible candidates for being in the order. How about spirits, does anyone think they have a connection with the White Lotus? don't know if this is really useful or not... but i just searched for Lotus in wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_%28symbolism%29The lotus in both Egypt and India symbolizes the union of the four elements; earth, air, fire, and water. The roots are in the earth, it grows in and by means of water, its leaves are nourished by air, and it blooms through the power of the sun's fire. The lotus is therefore the perfection of the fourfold order of the natural world. The growth of a new flower directly from the earth-bound original (infloresent proliferation) may be interpreted as a symbol of transcendence as found in Indian philosphophy: a spiritual emergence of a higher world directly from our physical manifestation. It may also be interpreted, as in Egypt, as the exaltation of the essence quality of the lotus.does anyone ever question why Iroh is in the White Lotus Society???I already explained that earlier in the thread. Thanks for the wiki, it actually confirms what I argued.
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Post by Sakura on Oct 19, 2007 17:50:54 GMT -5
Yeah, remember in The Desert (or was it the Library) when the old guy took in Iroh, even though he was on a wanted poster? Kinda wierd isn't it, I mean, didn't it say on the poster he was from the FN?
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Post by Lady Ursa on Oct 19, 2007 19:34:55 GMT -5
They would at least have known from Zuko's scar. I mean that Earth Kingdom village he wandered into heard about him. Okay, so they may not have known about the scar, but still...
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Post by UnKnownShadow on Oct 19, 2007 20:41:36 GMT -5
No one would have ever thought Zuko was from the FN the Earth Kingdom. Since there are so many refugees in the city, Zuko and Iroh can get away easily. He could have just lied and said that his scar came from when the FN attack his home.
Iroh on the other hand, he was accepted in the back room because he had proven to be a member of The White Lotus. I think he became a member after his son's death. He was probably looking for some way to better himself, seek peace and happiness above all things. In other words to be enlightned about the world and it's secrets.
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Post by kitsuneopal on Oct 19, 2007 22:13:14 GMT -5
But that makes me think how does one become a member? Being(at the time) the next in line for fire lord, how would the society have contacted Iroh or he contacted him?
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Post by Monk on Oct 19, 2007 22:25:01 GMT -5
The one thing I was rather surprised about was that Iroh did not do more to teach Zuko about the White Lotus or try and get him inducted as a member.
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Post by UnKnownShadow on Oct 19, 2007 22:48:28 GMT -5
Maybe u how to prove yourself worthy of joining the order. Maybe Zuko wasn't ready or prepared enough to join. This shows how serect and important the White Lotus is, if Iroh wouldn't even tell Zuko about it.
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Post by Lady Ursa on Oct 20, 2007 10:57:28 GMT -5
Zuko couldn't master his element, nor could he control his temper. It's a good question why Iroh wasn't working on Zuko's behavior as they were pursuing the Avatar, but his uncontrollable temper is probably one reason why Zuko can't make it into the society.
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Post by anitajob on Oct 23, 2007 8:33:13 GMT -5
The one thing I was rather surprised about was that Iroh did not do more to teach Zuko about the White Lotus or try and get him inducted as a member. Zuko is immature, is quick to become angry, and is very impulsive. Plus he was/is hunting the Avatar, and if the White Lotus society is a pro-Avatar pro-balance-of-all-elements group that we believe it to be, Zuko wouldn't be allowed in.
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Post by wiiboy on Oct 23, 2007 18:13:04 GMT -5
Hey, I am wondering. Do you think it is possible that King Bumi himself is a member of the White Lotus Sociality? I mean he seems like he is the perfect candidate for the group. I can imagine him playing Pai Su, he will always be joking around winning the games.
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Post by conspiracytheorist on Oct 23, 2007 22:37:59 GMT -5
Hey, I am wondering. Do you think it is possible that King Bumi himself is a member of the White Lotus Sociality? I mean he seems like he is the perfect candidate for the group. I can imagine him playing Pai Su, he will always be joking around winning the games. I think that would be absolutely brilliant. We still don't know Bumi's reason for needing to stay in Omashu even after twenty-two episodes beyond his revelation. What the Order of the White Lotus is expounded upon later this season, I think Bumi being part of the Order would fit perfectly into the grand scheme of their plan, and the opportunity could be used to explain by Bumi really had to stay behind (hopefully it wasn't a lame plot hole used to introduce Toph to the viewers, awesome as "The Blind Bandit" might have been).
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Post by teknomage on Oct 26, 2007 11:24:05 GMT -5
Listen OMG guys I just thought of something. Why Bumi has to stay in Omashu. Why we only occasionally see members of the Order spread out across the world in the course of the gang's travels... I think... are you sitting down? I think... the world is a Pai Sho board and members of the Order are tiles playing out their strategy as if it were a game! !!
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Post by conspiracytheorist on Oct 26, 2007 12:32:14 GMT -5
Listen OMG guys I just thought of something. Why Bumi has to stay in Omashu. Why we only occasionally see members of the Order spread out across the world in the course of the gang's travels... I think... are you sitting down? I think... the world is a Pai Sho board and members of the Order are tiles playing out their strategy as if it were a game! !! I'm not sure that that's their mindset when positioning their members, but I think you're right about the strategic aspect of Bumi's placement. It's a theory of mine that when Iroh met with the man in the bar from "The Desert", they were sent to Ba Sing Se not to hide out (although they certainly needed to keep their heads down), but for a more strategic purpose - which Azula interfered with, and now Iroh must break out of prison and complete that mission (teaching the Avatar firebending, anyone?). =D
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