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Post by Horyo on Jun 17, 2012 3:43:00 GMT -5
The message given to Iroh was from Korra, or so they said, and it was more updated than anything Tenzin could have sent. So apparently Korra has the ability to send/receive--telegrams?--whatever they are. I doubt it'll be a huge plot point. that the last transmission sent out was from Tenzin as we saw. Korra has no means of technological support, especially when Amon is in control. The council buildings are probably under observation, as the police statement. By the time Tenzin sent his message, Republic City was pretty much claimed and he realized that, what with the council subjugated and the police outmaneuvered. Furthermore, if Tenzin already sent a message, there's no reason for Korra to risk herself by sending one and he specifically told her that he sent it, to which she accepted and decided it would be better to wait. The only reason I think he mentioned Korra in the telegram was because Iroh and Korra probably have some kind of history with each other or because the Avatar telling you she needs help means she needs help. I could be wrong, but who knows until it's actually confirmed. |
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Post by nandireya on Jun 17, 2012 3:52:06 GMT -5
I no longer care when this show is going to reach my shores for I no longer have any desire to watch it. Byrke has broken my heart for the last time.
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Post by Horyo on Jun 17, 2012 3:56:52 GMT -5
Why are you upset again?
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Post by nandireya on Jun 17, 2012 4:19:54 GMT -5
Lin. She'd already lost her mum, her man and her job...her bending was all she had left. I'd have preferred it if they'd killed her. Let her go out in a blaze of glory.
It's not the first time Byrke's storytelling has disappointed me...I've had enough...it's time to just let it go...
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Post by yiceman on Jun 17, 2012 5:00:01 GMT -5
Buck up, if the Avatar can de-bend someone, then he/she can re-bend them. This whole show so far has been about seemingly impossible things happening. Normal dude stealing bending, bloodbending at will, etc. It's being made something of a theme, and perhaps for good reason. I wouldn't be surprised if Korra figures out how to restore someone.
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Post by Horyo on Jun 17, 2012 5:02:48 GMT -5
Although the show has moments of dark themes, it's still presented to children. I highly doubt Nick was going to let Lin die onscreen, and an offscreen death probably would've disappointed you even more.
Realistically, rather than being upset that Lin was, what, "shamed?" by losing her bending, I think it's more important to recognize her defiance and will, and, as I mentioned earlier, Amon's sign of respect for her as a character. Sad things happen to a character who lived a rough life. The sentence Amon gave her, if not permanent, is just the same as a death sentence and shows the most pivotal moment of this series because a good guy just lost their bending, and not just any good guy, Lin Beifong. It's gut-wrenching. It's sad. But that's what stories are supposed to do. I don't think seeing your character go down like that is a convincing reason to drop the series entirely and blame the writers for what happened, but that's me.
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Post by asian malaysian on Jun 17, 2012 5:59:07 GMT -5
Lin. She'd already lost her mum, her man and her job...her bending was all she had left. I'd have preferred it if they'd killed her. Let her go out in a blaze of glory. It's not the first time Byrke's storytelling has disappointed me...I've had enough...it's time to just let it go... Nandi, with all due respect it sounds like you were looking for a fairy tale story telling. I admit that the pace of the story is a lot faster than we are used too with characters being hurt faster and more permanently than we would like but that is in line with the shorter leash that Nickleodeon has given them and the older more mature age group that this series targets. We are talking about an enemy that exemplifies the fact that bending is not everything. Characters like Lin are in their 50's. They are old enough and have lost enough to know that bending or any particular skill is never everything and that life goes on long after the thrill of living is gone...if you let it. Actually , I think without regret holding her back, she has an even bigger chance to be more alive than she has been during the series so far-even if she never gets her bending back. |
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Post by nandireya on Jun 17, 2012 6:14:50 GMT -5
It's not just this one incident...or even just Avatar...it's a compound thing over multiple ongoing stories. It seems EVERYTHING I've been reading or watching has taken a direction that has broken my heart or ticked me off.
A person can only take so much disappointment...
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Post by Elisabeth Blanctorche on Jun 17, 2012 9:48:32 GMT -5
Lin losing her bending that way had me in tears. This is by far my favorite episode of the entire Avatar series. So far I'm really loving LOK even more than the original series. Lin is easily one of my favorite characters after watching that. I haven't seen such a beautiful sacrifice like that in ages. Bryke has seriously been on the money with show, and now, after this episode, I can officially say that I'm as emotionally tied to these characters as I was with the original cast. I'm looking forward to seeing what type of impact this has on Korra and the rest of Team Avatar. None of Korra's inner circle has been directly effected by Amon's actions until now. This may be a turning point for Korra. As for Amon, I really think this solidifies him as perhaps the most threatening villain we've seen to date. Azula had her moments in book 2, but I never got the feeling that she could get this best of the gAang, especially when people like Katara could best her. With Amon, it's a completely different vibe. I feel a legitimate fear for our heroes; I want him stopped at all costs! This was a great episode! The Finale is going to be awesome!!! Oh yeah, Mako is a piece of philoprogenitiveness. Such a lame and useless character. I seen people calling him a Zuko clone. I wish! Zuko was far and away more interesting than this guy. It should have been him who lost his bending. Wouldn't have noticed either way. I'm really thinking that Iroh II is Zuko's son. This is seriously going to be a long week.  haha Nandirya hasn't changed one bit lol. |
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Post by Paraiba Ocean on Jun 17, 2012 11:44:51 GMT -5
As soon as I heard "General" I knew this was going to be Dante Basco's character. Could be Zuko's son, could be Zuko's grandson via Zuko's daughter/the current Fire Lord. And maybe it's just my wuv for Zuko, but I'm hoping that side of the family comes into play via introduction at the end of the season or early on in the next season... I mean, they did leave everyone's favorite angsty scarred prince alive for a reason. We'll see though.
I hate that Lin lost her bending, but I think it reinforces the seriousness of Amon. I think Amon's been a greater villain so far than Zhao, Zuko (in the first season), Long Feng, Ozai, and Azula combined, but maybe that's because he's been a formidable foe for more than just a group of children I went there, but accomplished adult benders like Lin, Tenzin, and Tarrlok have been bested by him and his cronies on multiple occasions.
Finally glad that Asami talked to Mako. I liked Mako originally, but he's slid down in my eyes. I don't necessarily think he's a jerk, but I think he's confused and he really needs to stop fooling around with Asami until he gets his thoughts clear. I hope Asami doesn't slide down the ~u pikd da avatar im levin~ ramp, and I have a feeling she won't, but I think that if Asami and Mako are broken up, it would allow for some actual development of their characters. And Bolin could use a little too, but whatever.
I don't think that the seizure of Air Temple Island meant anything strategically but symbolically. It was the home of Korra in Republic City, had a statute of the last Avatar, and home to her airbending master. It's almost to say, "The Avatar can't even stop us from taking over her home."
Oh, Lin, bless her. I still keep to the idea that Amon using a pressure point (sharing the same name as he does) means something, especially because in Avatar, many characters have had names that correlate some way to something about them (Katara, Momo, and Azula are some examples). I could be wrong but there's clearly something off about him, and Aang energybended the same way with Ozai and Yakone so I'm inclined to think something's off. But if it is, Korra's gonna require some spiritual enlightening, and maybe the aftermath of Amon is what season 2 is about?
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Post by copshowguy on Jun 17, 2012 13:18:16 GMT -5
The message given to Iroh was from Korra, or so they said, and it was more updated than anything Tenzin could have sent. So apparently Korra has the ability to send/receive--telegrams?--whatever they are. I doubt it'll be a huge plot point. that the last transmission sent out was from Tenzin as we saw. Korra has no means of technological support, especially when Amon is in control. The council buildings are probably under observation, as the police statement. By the time Tenzin sent his message, Republic City was pretty much claimed and he realized that, what with the council subjugated and the police outmaneuvered. Furthermore, if Tenzin already sent a message, there's no reason for Korra to risk herself by sending one and he specifically told her that he sent it, to which she accepted and decided it would be better to wait. The only reason I think he mentioned Korra in the telegram was because Iroh and Korra probably have some kind of history with each other or because the Avatar telling you she needs help means she needs help. I could be wrong, but who knows until it's actually confirmed. I'm pretty sure that the only message was from Tenzin mentioning that the avatar needs help. Which is why Iroh mentioned the avatar. The message was probably something along the lines of: "Republic City and Avatar in trouble. SEND IN MORE PLANES!" |
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Post by MasterEcabob on Jun 17, 2012 17:49:12 GMT -5
"Holy crap, Tarrlok was Yakone's son!"
"k"
-_- Seriously guys? Way to throw one of the coolest characters right under the bus. I mean, I get that Amon is more important right now, but couldn't they at least do a little with his character? Oh well.
The assault on the councelors was cool...although not nearly as epic as the Dai Le coup back in Season 2. I liked how they used gas to funnel everyone out, and then ambushed them with magnet mecha. Made for a pretty cool fight.
Great to see that the OWL do something for once. Flinging fireballs and stones down from the top of the stairs was amazing, not to mention their "we'll hold them off" last stand near the end. And to top it all off...Jinora coming in on a freaking glider and kicking complete butt! I was literally cheering at the screen for that. And then Ikki and Meelo got in on the action...though I did shake my head a bit at the "ahem" fart bending.
Feel pretty bad for Lin though. That said, there's no way they aren't going to reverse that at some point. At least, I hope!
Finally...dat Iroh. I figured it was going to actually BE Zuko at first, what with the dramatic face reveal. Wonder who exactly this guy is though, given that Zuko's daughter is the Fire Lord. Maybe he's her son? And why name him Iroh? He's a pretty humble dude, and Lu Ten would have been a much better way to honor the man. Plus, would have made cross-series character debates a LOT less confusing!
Overall, pretty good episode, although I wish the Krew had done more. Seriously, Korra and Bolin had like five combined lines! Oh well, can't wait for the finale.
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Post by Solvabibble on Jun 18, 2012 12:17:45 GMT -5
"Holy crap, Tarrlok was Yakone's son!" "k" -_- Seriously guys? Way to throw one of the coolest characters right under the bus. I mean, I get that Amon is more important right now, but couldn't they at least do a little with his character? Oh well. This. Even though the Krew has more important things to worry about at the moment, I do hope this isn't the last we've seen of Tarrlok. I'm curious to know more about his origins and how bloodbending has apparently become more widespread. Mako/Asami: Seriously Mako? I understand having feelings for two people at the same time, but getting defensive and upset at your brother for telling your girlfriend about it does not help your case at all.  On that note, I really wish Korra would clear the air with Asami already. I was hoping that would happen in Ep 8 when Ikki outed Korra's crush on Mako, but I was disappointed when she tried to change the subject immediately. I like both Korra and Asami's characters, and I think they are excellent foils to each other. I don't want to see their friendship devolve into feuding over a boy. Bolin: "Car! ...Oh, we're good." There has been entirely too little of Bolin lately. Just sayin'. Even though I already knew what was coming, seeing Lin take her last stand and kick SERIOUS Equalist butt before losing her bending was heartbreaking. As someone pointed out earlier, it almost seemed like Amon showed her more respect than he did to the previous benders. While it was a shock, I think removing her bending was a wise storytelling move on Bryke's part. We've already seen how serious a threat Amon is and know what he's capable of, but de-bending one of the most powerful characters in the show? They've just cranked Amon's character up to eleven. If Lin does eventually get her bending back, I'll be ecstatic. If she's lost it forever, then thanks for the heartache, Bryke. I'll just be in my corner sobbing.Finally, General Iroh: Yay! I can't wait to see more of his character. I'm going with the theory that he's Zuko's grandson. Also, welcome back Dante Basco  |
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Post by Horyo on Jun 19, 2012 1:39:53 GMT -5
\ I'm curious to know more about his origins and how bloodbending has apparently become more widespread.\ Arguably, ti's similar to how lightning became a commodity skill. Speaking of which, was Mako redirecting lightning (well electricity) this episode? It seems like a pointless question, but his movements weren't very similar to normal redirection. And if he did, where did he learn it? As far as I know, lightning redirection was a skill hard to master (and train, as the chance of running into lightning, bender or otherwise, is low) and taught by a master for survival against a very specific attack and requires very fast and precise movement and some preplanning. Mako probably learned lightning generation for work at the power plant, but I don't see why they would teach him redirection as well. |
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Post by asian malaysian on Jun 19, 2012 2:17:56 GMT -5
^^ I suppose if youre going to bend lightning in an industrial enviroment, the ability to redirect lightning maybe considered an important basic safety/emergency skill like CPR.
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