raiondoll
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Post by raiondoll on Apr 28, 2012 14:58:43 GMT -5
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Esile
Casual Zuko
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Post by Esile on Apr 28, 2012 15:01:12 GMT -5
Amon was way scary in this episode, even the radio that was playing his broadcast became ominous. I'm glad he's sticking to his plan though, it'll be interesting to see how they deal with such a savvy and calculating enemy. And Esile, I saw the overtones in there too, but I also wonder if that's unavoidable, just because of the gender dynamics at play. (DH-wise, it's a fuzzy line. I think as long as any discussion outside of the Critical Thinking board stays respectful and vague/brief, it should be okay?) My heart was breaking for Korra the whole episode, but I'm glad that they showed her being scared. Like those above have said, it makes her more human, and that she's not just a one-dimensional bull-headed character. I look forward to seeing where she goes from here and how she will deal with this fear/prepare against Amon, and I love how supportive Tenzin is being. I don't think it had much to do with the gender dynamics to be honest. They certainly didn't help the situation, but the fact was that Korra was outnumbered, knocked out, and mentally broken down. Even if all of the members of the Equalists, Amon included, were female, I still think it would have had those overtones. I actually really liked Korra this episode because she was more relatable. Up until now, I just wasn't connecting with her. She was too in-her-own-world for me to really understand her, and now that she's learning that the world isn't all sunshine and lollipops, she's starting to win me over. One thing that I loved was that her (well-deserved) fear at Amon wasn't something that made her weak, it was something that she had to overcome and deal with. I never felt in this episode that Korra was a weak character. If anything, this episode has made her stronger because she understands more of what she's up against now.
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Post by ILZ on Apr 28, 2012 15:48:19 GMT -5
That said, I'm really glad we got to see some more of Mako and Bolin just being themselves, rather than focused on a match or captured by equalists. "The scarf stays" and "Who's this Tarlok guy? I can have a talki with him if you need me to...&quo It nice to see the brothers in a different light. And I really liked seeing them all dressed up for the party. Speaking of which I'm glad that Asami obviously invited Bolin as well which was a nice thing to do. And the scarf being his father's is a great throwback to Katara. Yeah, my first impression of Tarlok was that he was more of a planner than a doer. Even when he created his task force, I didnt really think he was going to be involved in it anymore than a leader capacity. Yeah, I agree. I wish we were able to see some of the other important people at the party. And of course my inner fan girl would love to see Zuko.
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valentine
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Post by valentine on Apr 28, 2012 16:42:50 GMT -5
I'm glad that Mako ran into someone who is going to be able to get them to the championship, but I have to agree with a lot of you...she seems to good to be true. I wouldn't be surprised if she ended up being in league with Amon in one way or another. And Korra's reaction to Asami showing up with Mako at the party was priceless. Bolin giving Korra the presents for saving him was adorable he so likes her I'm just sad she's put him in the friend zone so quickly.
Who else freaking despises Tarlok? He is one shady little critter, and I hate how he pretty much backed Korra into a corner so she had to join the task force. Amon freaking creeps me out though, I've been wondering if maybe he is someone that we know...highly doubt it though.
With every episode I start to love Tenzin and his family more and more, like at dinner when his little girl was talking to Tarlok and said "Why do you have three braids? Why do you smell like a lady? You're weird" and Tenzin at the party getting freaked out when his kid used something as a toilet that wasn't meant to be used that way haha
I LOVED the last scene where we got to see glimpses of "The Gaang" Toph looked flipping awesome and Aang rocked that little beard he had going on. I'm absolutely loving this show, I was a little worried at first because I enjoyed Aang's story so much. But Korra kicks butt she's pretty dang impressive right from the beginning. I can't wait to see more.
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nandireya
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Post by nandireya on Apr 28, 2012 17:28:16 GMT -5
If the mysterious benefactor who allowed her father to forge his empire turns out to be Amon or someone affiliated with him, perhaps Asami will be forced to betray the Neo Team Avatar to save her dad (and her way of life)? Tarlock? Definitely one of these* But...the flashback... If Korra was seeing her past life, shouldn't she have been seeing it through Aang's eyes? She shouldn't have been able to see her past self...except maybe reflected in they eyes of that dude he was lunging at. And if that's grown up Aang, why doesn't the statue have the beard? Was it built before he grew up enough to grow facial hair? * WARNING!TV Tropes is highly addictive! Click at your own risk!
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Post by KrystalFruit22 on Apr 28, 2012 17:40:42 GMT -5
Oh wow, I liked this show before, but this episode really got me hooked. It's nice to see a more multi-faceted Korra admitting that she has fears like a normal person instead of just rushing into things head on. And even though I'm pretty sure Mako/Korra will happen in the end, I can't help but think she and Bolin are adorable with his little cupcake and "You saved me!" thing. He's like a puppy! That whole part cracked me up. I definitely think Asami is using Mako to get to Korra, and I see her as being sort of Jet-like figure (winning Katara's affection through his looks and then betraying her, using the whole "I lost my parents too" sort of thing as a sympathy card). There are so many similarities. I could definitely see Hiroshi Sato as maybe being indebted to the equalists in some way, though I don't think he was trying to tie Mako up with anything nasty by loaning him money. However, I can certainly see his past with the loan coming back to haunt him and Amon threatening to shut him down if he/Asami don't try to get to Korra through Mako or something. But I don't think Sato himself is looking to hurt anyone. I think he may be more of a pawn to Amon if anything, unable to escape because of debt or a deal or some sort. Maybe that's where Amon gets all his fancy technology, like Teo's dad and The Fire Nation maybe? And I was so excited to see the old characters all grown up! Now I'm really curious as to who they were fighting in that flashback and what the whole story behind it was. Ghaa, cliffhangers.
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nandireya
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Post by nandireya on Apr 28, 2012 17:49:46 GMT -5
I wonder if Mako got a flower and a cupcake too...?
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Post by Musogato on Apr 28, 2012 19:12:47 GMT -5
@raiondoll, ooh, thank you for the interview link! There's been so many new interviews lately, I've totally fallen behind. But the previous episodes have all used the new logo where it's just The Legend of Korra, while this episode used the old one from last year. It's just weird to see it switched back all of sudden, since I thought they weren't going to use it anymore. Maybe they're going to alternate it? Esile, Good point. And agreed on the not being a weak character point too; she never seemed that way to me either, I thought it was handled very well. @nandi, the Aang statue looks pretty young, maybe he was still a teenager/young adult when it was built? Maybe there will be something mentioned about it in the last Promise book. And that would be super cute if Mako got gifts from Bolin too. ^^
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raiondoll
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Post by raiondoll on Apr 28, 2012 21:00:48 GMT -5
@musogato: Ahh, I see what you mean. Good eyes! I didn't spot that at all.
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Sheogorath
Kyoshi Azula
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Post by Sheogorath on Apr 28, 2012 22:59:20 GMT -5
Oh, my Celestia. This show just gets better by the episode. I love it. My heart bleeds for Korra, it really does. I would be in much the same emotional state if I were her. You don't see a psychopath, an intelligent psycopath, but a psychopath all the same, take away someone else's bending and not be freaked the eff out and paranoid as all getout he's coming for you. And on the subject of Amon coming for Korra, I say bravo to him for answering Korra's challenge like he did. I like villains who make plans and stick to them as they work toward their goals, so the kind who can break their opponents' wills as part of those plans, and so quickly, they get put over in my book a lot faster and higher than any other. Zhao was good, Azula and Ozai were better, but in my opinion, Amon is already the best Avatar villain so far.
Asami, Asami. What to do about Asami? Luna in Canterlot high in the mountains, that's an interesting new development. I mean, when I first saw her, I said to myself, I said, "Don't trust her, you fool! It's possible she works with Amon!" but then, maybe she's not with Amon and she does have her own issues and she turns out to be on Korra, Mako, and Bolin's side. We shall see.
And on a side note, I for one love the new element nation formal wear. So stylish and modern, yet still true to the nations of origin of those wearing them.
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Post by Nashk Tategami on Apr 29, 2012 1:24:53 GMT -5
One of the things that concerned me was the semi-"reveal" of the fact that the council was made of benders. The leaders who govern the people are the very "group" that nonbenders hate so much. I wonder if that is coincidence or purposeful? (Both in universe, and out.) Something else no one has mentioned yet.... The equalists are actively trying to train new Chi-Benders. I am curious about how thorough the training is. Are they trying to make full blown warriors for the movement, or are they just trying to get the basics down so that the equalists have grunts, or simple "agents" around the city. I also noticed the rape overtones, and in fact that was the first thing I said to my friend as we were watching together as soon as the scene was over. I think its appropriate however, as Amon has essentially, if you would excuse my crude language here, "Mind-raped" korra. Mind rape explained- tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MindRapeHe broke her spirit. Amon made a very (surprisingly) smart play in regards to how he dealt with the avatar. I have no doubt korra will break her fear eventually, but this mental blow that amon has dealt to korra will color her efforts against the equalist movement for the rest of the series. I will also be REALLY surprised if Amon doesn't use this in some way. Will he trumpet his victory over the avatar? Will he stay silent and let Korra stew in her own shame? What will be his next move? More importantly... What are his plans? Musogato Kyoshi, Sheogorath The new formal wear really is excellent, and to be honest I was really delighted to see Korra in more feminine clothing, and surprised to find she was actually wearing a skirt. Of course her outfit was practically the same as her usually outfit outside of the skirt and hair topper.
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Sheogorath
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Post by Sheogorath on Apr 29, 2012 2:37:27 GMT -5
@sheogorath The new formal wear really is excellent, and to be honest I was really delighted to see Korra in more feminine clothing, and surprised to find she was actually wearing a skirt. Of course her outfit was practically the same as her usual outfit outside of the skirt and hair topper. Yeah, and she looked good in it, too. Tenzin and Tarlok looked pretty sharp, as well. And on the subject of Tarlok, he surprised me twice. He looked like a snake in the grass from the very beginning, but I didn't think he'd actually do any of the work on his task force, and then he actually tried to talk Korra down? Really? He still comes across to me as being untrustworthy, but if he's willing to do some actual work and continues to show that he understands that they need to be careful when it comes time to actually take down Amon, I'm willing to give him a chance. I'll just be watching him, though.
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Post by Munchkinator on Apr 29, 2012 2:43:29 GMT -5
Honestly, I was so ready for Korra to go into the Avatar state during her confrontation with Amon, but the fact that she didn't sort of reaffirmed just how out of touch with her spirit she really is. That's going to be such a huge obstacle for her to overcome!
And on the subject of Tarlok, while he is manipulative, I don't think his motives are bad at all. I trust that he wants to do good even though he does come off as a shady character more often than not.
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Earth and Water
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Post by Earth and Water on Apr 29, 2012 3:23:15 GMT -5
Oh geez ... this episode went by so fast when it ended I was like 'what that's it?' And then thought, there wasn't much to this ep. Of course thinking back heck yeah there was! When Asami entered I jumped. But I still can't believe Mako played along with her so well, it was almost as if he forgot all about Korra. And when her showed up to the gala with her and was facing Korra I half expected him to get nervous or something, but he didn't. I don't think he quite has caught on to Korra yet ... although the whole staring out the window in ep. 2 kinda hints that he does ... so grr ... But it really is an interesting dynamic that's going on, Bryke yet again upped the anty on this one ... not only in the romance, but also in the fighting Equalist stuff ... and Amon. Legend of Korra doesn't have lines in black and white like the original series did ... there is soo much more grey stuff ... But in my opinion it makes the show much more Awesomer! @ Nashk: The term mind-rape really applies here. I have been around people somewhat like this ... and this truly is the proper term for it. Whether it is deliberate or not, they have their ways of throwing up brick walls in your face when you thought your path was clear, and then delving invisible slimy needles right at your weak spot ... (sorry for the grotesquely portrayal). Bryke really has created a very sinister, wicked, manipulative bad guy. He is like Azula times five ... well give or take. Torrlok is a player ... he is so full of himself its ridiculous, yet another grey player Bryke popped on us. I feel my chest tighten with inert anger just thinking about what he did to Korra ... I can just see him smiling 'black mail the Avatar into going on a mission to win her trust just to turn around and WHAM! slam her in the face with evil.' It really is fun, exciting and terrifying to think of the plot value not only of Terrlock but of the entire plot in general.
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Horyo
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Post by Horyo on Apr 29, 2012 4:08:34 GMT -5
Does anyone notice how Korra treats Tarlok's servant lady? I know it's played for laughs, but using bending to knock away someone because they're annoying you? Amon may actually have a point.
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