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Post by Musogato on Mar 25, 2012 23:12:58 GMT -5
Since the episodes are online and we are (legally) finally seeing the characters in action, time to board the ships. Thoughts, speculations, favorite fanart and vids, have at it. Fancy ship titles and collected links can be edited into this post later on.
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Post by kaangluv on Apr 3, 2012 9:00:25 GMT -5
^Thanks for setting up the thread! Get this, folks: it appears that Makorra is endgame . There's a very spoiler-y clip from Korra Nation that may shed light on that screen cap from a couple of days ago. korranation.tumblr.com/However, part of me feels that this is all too convenient. Would Nick really show so much of Makorra ahead of time given their focus on romantic suspense in the original series? I suspect that there's more to this than meets the eye...perhaps the newspapers create fake romantic tension between the Fire Ferrets (a la the Harry/Hermione Rita Skeeter article) or there's some other element that has yet to be discovered. Edit: Hoorah for my 1000th post! The Korra sprites are kickass and right in time for the premiere.
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Post by nandireya on Apr 5, 2012 22:16:03 GMT -5
And for those of us not in the US who are denied the pleasure of viewing it...I'm assuming it contains this? i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/sandrya69/tumblr_m1ryhurJlE1r4w42r.pngI'm getting more and more fed up and less and less interested in this show with all this wonderful stuff we apparently second-class citizens of the world in general can't share in...by the time it reaches our shores I'm predicting I'll no longer give a flying [insert expletive here]
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Post by Musogato on Apr 5, 2012 22:31:44 GMT -5
No prob! Haha! That clip is hilarious, I love how she just earthbends the kids away. XD But while it shows where Korra's feelings may stand, Mako is still very ambiguous. Even in those Makkora kiss screencaps from the trailer, his expression seemed very surprised at her move. Although I will say that the ending for A Leaf In The Wind, where they're both gazing at the other's residence, was rather romantic. I'd say there'd be some end-game potential just from that, based on how camera angles were used in the previous show. I do agree though, all together this does seem like quite a bit, especially since the show hasn't really started yet. From a marketing view, maybe they're trying to push it to draw in more girls/romance-lovers (to show that LOK has more sides to it than just the fighting and being a sequel to ATLA), or are pushing this ship into view early on in some attempt to ease potential shipping wars like with ATLA. (But that would be silly; fandom does what it wants.) The press creating stuff to sell papers is an interesting idea. I wonder if there would be tabloids too, and what ridiculous things they would say. Oh man I hope there will be, it would be so funny. xD It'd be like one giant easter egg. And congrats on the milestone! ^^ @nandi, no, it's a new scene. It's here on Youtube, maybe it'll work? But yeah, it's really frustrating that all this stuff is only viewable in one country, especially with how global things are now, and how hard Nickelodeon is pushing this. You'd think they would at least be mentioning when it would be available elsewhere.
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Post by Yang Fishy on Apr 15, 2012 21:57:51 GMT -5
I wonder if there would be tabloids too, and what ridiculous things they would say. Oh man I hope there will be, it would be so funny. xD It'd be like one giant easter egg. We did see Chief Bei Fong in one of the Newspapers which Korra was trying to airbend but resulted in Firebending xD Before that during the scene where Korra confronts Tenzin about all the Order of white Lotus guards who maintain a watchful eye on her even while on Air Temple Island 24/7 she was reading a newspaper and there was an image of a black haired guy who has this smirk on his face and wears what appears to be a black jacket so its hard to tell his nation affiliation there. He definitely makes an appearance in a future episode! In one of the upcoming previews Korra confronts him and calls him "pretty boy." Seems to be some sorta confrontation between them there. Not sure is he's an antagonist, protagonist in disguise, a Jet type character. Who knows? But he's definitely got a role to play later on. Easter eggs are so much fun indeed ^^
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Post by Paraiba Ocean on Apr 16, 2012 16:11:16 GMT -5
In regards to the Makkora kiss, I'm rather irritated/angry about that. Aside from the blatant ship!teasing much like the Zutara teasers from the S2 finale, I'm upset because it's like they didn't even try to keep it hidden. Just LOL HERE IT IS. idk, having hugs, or possibly romantic moments is one thing, but c'mon. Let's do a little story writing. We don't even know a whole lot about Mako, or Bolin for that matter. It kind of makes the scene a let down whenever it comes to a head later on. In other news, it's still too early for me to determine how I feel about this pairing, but cynical!Alexia feels like this is almost a makeup pairing to Zutarians. Like, "Hey sorry your ship didn't work out, but here's this one so please keep watching our show." I always see the glass as half empty. I guess it remains to be seen, but hopefully they do a better job with pairing in this series than they did in the last. there I said it
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Post by Musogato on Apr 16, 2012 23:51:30 GMT -5
Yang Fish, yes they are! Easter eggs are great, haha. ^^ That pretty boy you're talking about is called Tahno, and I think he was in the trailer for the next new episode. There were also newspaper pictures of Amon, and Tarrlok, the slick Councilman that's apparently Tenzin's rival. Ehehehe, I hope this newspaper theme will continue. Some of the newspaper captions are readable too, so hopefully the person on ASN forum who's been translating the Chinese script will do those too. It probably won't reveal much, but I imagine if there's some crazy event in the city, the headlines could be pretty funny. ^^ I am curious what the ship spelling you guys think will become the main one though. I've seen Makkora and Makorra, and a little bit of Makkorra. Personally I kinda like Korko, but only because it negates repeating letters. ^^; Doesn't have the same ring to it, though. I can kind of see how this ship could be a call to Zutarians, if only because it's the same elements, but I don't understand why Bryke would go with that mentality. Fans interpreting the show however they do, that's how fandom works. But I've seen this on other sites too, and I don't understand why Bryke would owe it to fans for their interpretations. Especially when they get a lot flack for how things go, and even for things that aren't in their control like how commercials are put together. ......Olive branch, I suppose? That doesn't seem very fair to the new characters though.
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Post by nandireya on Apr 17, 2012 2:49:14 GMT -5
I think it should be Koko ^_^
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Post by Paraiba Ocean on Apr 17, 2012 9:38:54 GMT -5
I am curious what the ship spelling you guys think will become the main one though. I've seen Makkora and Makorra, and a little bit of Makkorra. Personally I kinda like Korko, but only because it negates repeating letters. ^^; Doesn't have the same ring to it, though. I can kind of see how this ship could be a call to Zutarians, if only because it's the same elements, but I don't understand why Bryke would go with that mentality. Fans interpreting the show however they do, that's how fandom works. But I've seen this on other sites too, and I don't understand why Bryke would owe it to fans for their interpretations. Especially when they get a lot flack for how things go, and even for things that aren't in their control like how commercials are put together. ......Olive branch, I suppose? That doesn't seem very fair to the new characters though. lmao none of those names seem to roll right off the tongue. Oh well... I don't think Bryke owe fans anything, and that's the reason they're doing this. I know a lot of Zutararians were ticked off how the last show ended, and since I'm cynical, part of me assumes this is a little bit of an olive branch as you said, to be, "Sorry this ship didn't work, we're doing this one?" in hopes of keeping a large fanbase (but that calls into question the "trueness" of the fanbase). On the other, more optimistic hand, the inner shipper is hoping they saw the potential relationship between the two characters and wanted to play it out with different, but similar, characters.
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Post by Yang Fishy on Apr 17, 2012 15:16:00 GMT -5
In regards to the Makkora kiss, I'm rather irritated/angry about that. Aside from the blatant ship!teasing much like the Zutara teasers from the S2 finale, I'm upset because it's like they didn't even try to keep it hidden. Just LOL HERE IT IS. idk, having hugs, or possibly romantic moments is one thing, but c'mon. Let's do a little story writing. We don't even know a whole lot about Mako, or Bolin for that matter. It kind of makes the scene a let down whenever it comes to a head later on. I agree. I was shocked with the amount or romance they were releasing so soon. We just got to know the characters name and BAM one character is already pulling the moves on another. The writers used to love to withhold as much as they could from us until we literally would fall from the edge of our seats in suspense. And now their just giving it away? There could be mulitiple explanations for this. 1. Their trying to gain a wide audience again. It has been years since ATLA. 2. Mako and Korra like Katara and Aaang are the first ship to be given screentime and hence are set to being endgame seeing as how LOK is only planned for 2 seasons so far. 3. It could also be cause of their ages. Korra's 17. If they gave us all these snogs with 12 and 14 year olds I expect things to be much more romantic when you have 17 year olds involved! 4. Or Simply for drama. And I don't mean they want to get us fans riled up. But more like this kiss between Mako and Korra won't actually be romantic or luvy duvy but actually add to drama to the series. It might actually come to drift them apart then bring them closer together. Make things awkward between them On the other, more optimistic hand, the inner shipper is hoping they saw the potential relationship between the two characters and wanted to play it out with different, but similar, characters. I have hope in Mike and Bryan...and in some of the writers still! [geez I'm worse than Katara -_-']. I really felt that years after ATLA and learning from what went well, what they liked, and what they could have improved on, Bryke decided on this awesome new show idea and didn't give two cabbages what fans might have thought and just decided that these two would look great together-if they indeed are going to be endgame. Lets just hope their actually not in the process of making up episodes as we go and vulnerable to being swayed by corporate pressures etc. Although I myself was a Zutara fan to the end in ATLA [although I wanted them to end up as really close friends/special bond], this just wasn't the time [era] for Zutara The show due its time limitations of 3 seasons was built [and just made more sense] for Katara and Aang to occur. It was hinted at since episode 1 really with that Sokka "kidding" comment ["We're gonna go save your boyfriend."] and would have been confusing had it trumped not only Katara and Aang who had a tidbit of buildup here and there between episodes but also Mai and Zuko who supposedly had some "history" together [although I still don't count a childhood crush as history or reason enough, but that's just me]. Now that I see Tenzin, I see the appeal in Kataang. Their grandchildren are adorable! But years after ATLA I STILL have a hard time with Maiko to be honest. lol I never did like that pair Now that they've had time to think things through I hope it was more a lightbulb going off in Bryke's head thinking; 'How awesome would it be for a Waterbending Southern Watertribe Avatar to end up with Brooding Firebending type Guy!' [and a little bit of...'You know that Zuko and Katara what the heck's pair name did have some appeal' to go in their minds rather than just 'We owe these rabid fangirls something.' Because they really don't owe us anything at all. Except for Ursa's story. They do owe us that. haha. I guess it remains to be seen, but hopefully they do a better job with pairing in this series than they did in the last. there I said it Ditto. Sokka and Suki were pretty awesome. I was happy with them. And I don't care who rebuttals at this point but Platonic Zuko and Katara was awesome! To see how far these two came from the beginning where just the sight of the other meant 'put 'em up' because it's about to be a showdown to see them talking, bonding, sharing pain, becoming friends and fighting a common enemy in the end was the greatest development between two characters I witnessed in the series. Even beating Zuko and Aang since Aang's persona is just forgiving-he would give anyone a second chance with his monkly nature of being. Those two came a very long way and I was happy for that. Romantic wise-yeah the authors could have used help with the romance lines. Seriously some made me gag. lol. But thats people opinions. Some felt it was the best romance ever written. Others not so much. What can we say-we have high expectations for Mike and Bryan [Whew glad I got that off my chest. rant over]
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Post by Paraiba Ocean on Apr 17, 2012 21:47:59 GMT -5
I doubt the intent of the trailer was to give the fans ammunition to load the cannons with (Bryke knows how unreasonable we they some shippers can be), but it still makes the moment less disappointing/satisfying in a way. I have a feeling I'm going to favor Mako to Bolin because I can relate to him in the burdens of an older sibling, but still. save the good stuff for surprises. I'm unfortunately a "glass is half-empty" kinda girl, so whenever I see something, I assume it's for the wrong reasons instead of the right reasons. However, I do want to have some faith in Bryke and the writers, so I'm going to tell myself consciously that they saw the potential appeal of that kind of relationship. My main issue wasn't necessarily the ending pairings (though I kind of question some things, because while the relationship lines were corny), but it seemed everyone ended up with someone - except Toph - all the sudden. That has nothing to do with my ships/preferences/tastes, but how they were executed; there were a lot of questions or resolutions that I think Bryke didn't really do a good job with the story writing. But what's done is done, and there's no need to bring old grievances to a new series. I'm a dying Zutara fan to the end, admittedly; my OTP was flawless /sobs in corner. I will forever be unsatisfied until I see a kick butt episode that shows wtf happened to Ursa. edit: spoiler warning. Korra and Mako interactThis video is a small clip that's been circulating, but it's extended a bit. Just giving a slight spoiler warning in case but no major plot details are given away.
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Post by jillrg on Apr 22, 2012 16:48:37 GMT -5
I shipped Maiko wholeheartedly and completely, but I have no problem with Makorra. If it was the writers' intention, however, to "appease" Zutara shippers with a Waterbender/Firebender couple this generation, it looks like it failed, as fanfiction.net is still flooded with new Zutara fan fics each day, and Makorra fan fics are off to a relatively slow pace (that story never made sense to me anyway). The canon relationships of the first series were awesome (except for Sukka lol), and so far, all indications are imho that the main canon relationship of this series will be great too... unless it's all another trick from the series whose writers love to mess with shippers as much as Louisa May Alcott did, in which case the reactions will be hilarious to watch as they unfold.
I at first thought the romantic hints between Mako and Korra were off to too fast a pace, but when I remember Aang's and Katara's interaction in their first 3 episodes, I think it's about the same.
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Post by Paraiba Ocean on Apr 22, 2012 18:10:48 GMT -5
Really? I think that Mako and Korra are moving at a bit faster pace than Katara and Aang just because I never really saw Katara reciprocating any feelings towards the end of the series, but in the same breath, LoK is supposed to be leaner and meaner than TLA. I think that's why Korra and her potential beau are getting to the cutesy oops I fell asleep on your shoulder/head moments.
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Post by Horyo on Apr 26, 2012 4:01:03 GMT -5
^I also believe that has to do with several in-series factors:
Korra and Mako appear older than their TLA counterparts (Korra is 17). They've probably had significant development (physically and sexually) compared to a 12-year-old Aang, or a 14-year-old Katara.
Also, Aang and Katara lived in a time during war, where romance was the least of their priorities. Katara was also mother figure because she was forced to grow up as one, and probably never had much time in her life at the South Pole to develop strong romantic attachments.
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Post by TML on Apr 28, 2012 2:45:40 GMT -5
I know that Bryke might have a twist up their sleeves and are probably just teasing my fangirl heart but I couldn't help but fangirl all over the place when I saw this ♥ ♥ :
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