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Post by Zukosfire5 on Apr 16, 2010 21:15:33 GMT -5
www.ugo.com/movies/changes-to-the-last-airbenderSo. Thoughts? Personally, I definitely raeged when someone told me that the prononciation of the names was changed for the movie. But, once I read his thought process behind it and saw why exactly he was doing it, I can understand why he did it and where he's coming from. I'm still a little miffed about it but then again I'm also a stickler for sticking to the source material. On the other hand, I'm pretty upset that firebenders apparently can't create their own fire in the movie (if I understand the article correctly). It kinda diminishes the cool factor by, like, a thousand. Although I guess that means that Zhao will get to punch a fish to death after all. What do you guys think?
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Post by Alouncara on Apr 17, 2010 18:49:56 GMT -5
Interesting, with the name pronunciation and all, I understand the fire bending thing, it definitiley levels out the playing field, except with Airbenders, because if the Firenation found a way to make it so Airbenders had no air, they'd be screwed themselves xD.
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Post by Zukosfire5 on Apr 17, 2010 22:06:52 GMT -5
I see your point but I still don't think that it's a good idea. For example, in the show it is basically impossible to separate Airbenders from their element, and very hard (though not impossible) to separate Earth and Waterbenders from their element. And making it so that Firebenders need a source of fire to Firebend would (in my opinion at least) make it harder to believe that the Fire Nation could take over the world. I mean, if you had a bunch of Fire Nation soldiers coming to attack your village, all you have to do is blow out all the candles and then the Firebenders would be out of luck.
Granted, I may be interpreting Shyamalan's statement the wrong way.
Also, I find it interesting that Shyamalan is deciding now to be ethnically correct about things such as names after the racebending and general casting fail.
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Post by Zidaneski on Apr 18, 2010 12:04:51 GMT -5
How would it be hard for the firebenders to take over the world? If an army has the determination and will to dominate I'm sure its possibe. Also, with fire you can create it (so to speak). For water benders you're pretty much screwed if you're not close to a water source and you don't know how to take the water out of plants. In a swamp sure water benders have the advantage but easily set fire to the place and now the two are even. Set fire to a regular forest and firebenders win easily.
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Post by asian malaysian on Apr 19, 2010 4:32:53 GMT -5
^^ Maybe thats why water benders live in areas where they are constantly surrounded by water? Just saying.
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Post by asian malaysian on Apr 19, 2010 4:42:41 GMT -5
^^ Maybe thats why water benders live in areas where they are constantly surrounded by water? Just saying. Btw, it would be interesting if airbenders would use airbending against their opponents by (temporarily) depriving them of air. It would be a more efficient way with fighting fire benders since strong winds can fan flames instead of putting them out.
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Post by Zukosfire5 on Apr 19, 2010 18:06:29 GMT -5
How would it be hard for the firebenders to take over the world? If an army has the determination and will to dominate I'm sure its possibe. Also, with fire you can create it (so to speak). For water benders you're pretty much screwed if you're not close to a water source and you don't know how to take the water out of plants. In a swamp sure water benders have the advantage but easily set fire to the place and now the two are even. Set fire to a regular forest and firebenders win easily. Well, if I understand Shyamalan correctly, he took away a Firebender's ability to create his own fire. Instead, they have to rely on pre-existing sources of fire (i.e. a torch or campfire) to Firebend, much like how a Waterbender needs a source of water to Waterbend. But like I said, I may have interpreted his comments the wrong way, so I suppose we will have to wait and see how it plays out in the movie.
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Post by Zidaneski on Apr 19, 2010 22:40:39 GMT -5
^^ Maybe thats why water benders live in areas where they are constantly surrounded by water? Just saying. Well yeah, and thats why the fire nation hasn't been able to conquer the water tribe or the earth kingdom, and also why Zhao would want to kill the moon spirit because he knows fighting water benders on their home turf is suicide.
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Post by Alouncara on Jun 10, 2010 11:34:14 GMT -5
How would it be hard for the firebenders to take over the world? If an army has the determination and will to dominate I'm sure its possibe. Also, with fire you can create it (so to speak). For water benders you're pretty much screwed if you're not close to a water source and you don't know how to take the water out of plants. In a swamp sure water benders have the advantage but easily set fire to the place and now the two are even. Set fire to a regular forest and firebenders win easily. Well, if I understand Shyamalan correctly, he took away a Firebender's ability to create his own fire. Instead, they have to rely on pre-existing sources of fire (i.e. a torch or campfire) to Firebend, much like how a Waterbender needs a source of water to Waterbend. But like I said, I may have interpreted his comments the wrong way, so I suppose we will have to wait and see how it plays out in the movie. What I got it is that most of the general population can't create their own fire, but those with enough chi or something like that *cough* Iroh *cough* could. So all you'd have to do is have one guy in an army that can start the fire and the rest goes from there. It also make the comet a bigger threat in my opinion because then everyone can firebend rather than just bigger flames.
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Post by Zukosfire5 on Jun 12, 2010 9:02:41 GMT -5
Exactly. I remember reading in another interview that he told Shaun Toub (Iroh's actor) to not watch the series at all, and this possibly could have extended to the other members of the main cast.
And it's like, I know you're trying to go for Darker and Edgier here but don't you think that your main actors should be familiar with the series and their characters, and at least try to capture the essence of the animated characters?
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Post by Kana on Jun 12, 2010 12:48:06 GMT -5
See, this is the problem. I was getting all pumped for the movie, then I read things like this, and I realize the movie will most likely disapoint.
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Post by nandireya on Jun 12, 2010 18:46:22 GMT -5
On the firebending thing...if the prequel comic is anything to go on...I think there will be a select few firebenders who will be able to produce their own fire...
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Post by nymphadora on Jun 12, 2010 18:54:12 GMT -5
zukosfire - I agree with what you said about the actors capturing the essence of the characters- and the series in general. But I'm getting worried that the movie isn't going to get the right feeling. Like, most of the major plot points will be there, but the heart of the series will be missing. The series took a very serious matter and, for the most part, made everything seem like it wasn't that big of a deal. The characters had fun and that's what I love about it.
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Post by firelordmomo on Jun 13, 2010 0:32:37 GMT -5
Yea he explicitly states that SOME firebenders, as in the more powerful masters, can use their "chi" to create fire. This would have to be the case if he intends to keep the whole "creating lightning" aspect for certain firebenders like Iroh, Azula, and Ozai. "M. Night Shyamalan: Yeah, right? But keep in mind, the highest level firebenders can use their chi. This will tie into the comet "
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Post by ZutaraSukkaTaang on Jun 13, 2010 14:06:07 GMT -5
The name changes bother me... A lot. >.<
I'm okay with the firebending change, but I don't like it that much. This was one trait that made Firebenders.
I'm still excited for the film, no doubt, though.
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