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Firefly
Oct 18, 2008 10:22:00 GMT -5
Post by Kohana on Oct 18, 2008 10:22:00 GMT -5
I noticed there isn't a thread for this amazing show yet. Totally have to remedy that.  I got the dvd of the series recently, a gift from Grandi and Danneh <333, and I'm watching an episode or two every night now. I must say I'm falling in love with this baby. The dialogue is hilarious and witty, every character is unique and adds something to the show, and the plot is great as well. My favourite characters are definitely Jayne and Kaylee. Jayne is just too hilarious and Kaylee is just too cute. This is definitely a show I'd recommend. 
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Firefly
Oct 18, 2008 13:39:43 GMT -5
Post by Grandi on Oct 18, 2008 13:39:43 GMT -5
I just love the humor of the series combined with the odd morality that Mal has. He's someone who isn't the technical good guy but you have to root for him.
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Firefly
Oct 18, 2008 21:31:50 GMT -5
Post by username on Oct 18, 2008 21:31:50 GMT -5
Nathan Fillion looks kinda like Jason Bateman.
Just putting that out there.
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Firefly
Oct 21, 2008 0:17:49 GMT -5
Post by travellingfay on Oct 21, 2008 0:17:49 GMT -5
Oh, show!
Man, the frail vehicle of the English language is inadequate to expressing the sheer volume of obsessive fannish love affection I have for this show. So. Good. And ahead of its time! Whedon was consciously reacting to the sanitised shiny SciFi of Star Trek & Star Gate etc: "There will be no bumpy foreheads, no living long, no prospering." Choosing to give the ships a more Milennium Falcon feel, and the cinematography a rough and ready hand-held approach, they really made something fresh, gritty and realistic. It's no coincidence that the reimagined Battlestar Galactica has these same stylistic features - a shedload of the people who worked on Firefly went on to work on BSG when it went into production shortly after Firefly was cancelled. (I like BSG an awful lot, but I still prefer Firefly for the wit and lightness of touch that balanced out the harsher, more tragic moments. Also, I like the fact that it isn't a space-opera. It isn't an epic about the rise and fall of civilizations; it's just about a bunch of people trying to get by. Trying to keep on flying.)
Speaking of which - Curse Fox for cancelling the show! Curse them to the lowest level of Hades! They had it in for the show from the moment they saw the pilot episode and realised that Whedon wasn't going to hand them a vacuuous 90210-in-Space money-spinner after all. Very clearly, the suits had been expecting something more like Andromeda. When they got a show that started out with the good guys losing a war and the hero losing his faith in God, they clearly crapped their expensive pants and tried to back-pedal like crazy. Idiots. They gave Joss and Tim A WEEKEND to pen a new pilot after they set eyes on 'Serenity' - and 'The Train Job' is all well and good, but 'Serenity' does a much better job of setting the scene and introducing the characters, imho. Bad job, Fox. No cookie.
Much as I adore BtVS and AtS, I think that Firefly is my favourite Whedon show. Other than the episode 'Heart of Gold', which is just good, EVERY episode is outstanding, imho. Intelligent, witty dialogue, stellar acting, a wonderfully strong ensemble, detailed world-building, thrills, spills, swashbuckling, philosophy and hot, interesting, likeable persons of both genders. Gah. I love the way that the writers constantly and consciously subvert cliches and narrative tropes, and send us off in directions we don't expect - It is my One True Show, and I want to hug it and squeeze it and call it George. (Also, I want to keep Simon in a gilded cage in my apartment, but that's a whole other story.)
It's not flawless - I could wish that Joss and Tim had done a better job with their "...and a wh*re!" concept, but I fanwank it as best I can. I like the notion that Companions are somewhere between geishas and Bene Gesserit - I just wish we'd seen more examples of there being Companions of both genders, and that the writers had really sat and thought through all the implications of creating a Hi So, respectable, sex worker class. (I've nothing against the idea, but I think that it would neccessitate a lot of shifts in fundemental societal attitudes to sex and to women along with it - and we don't actually see evidence of that in canon. In fact, with Mal's harping on about Inara being a wh*re, quite the reverse.) Still, that only bothers me when I'm waxing pretentious.
Mostly? I LOVE THE SHOW! See, it's reducing me to caps lock! LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE!!!
Ahem. Here endeth the gushing. We return you to your regularly scheduled Avatar discussion.
ETA: hmmm...I see that the Distant Horizon software is not thrilled with my use of the designation wh*re. But "lover girl" just doesn't have the same impact, and part of the point IS the language Mal uses, and its impact.
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Firefly
Jan 25, 2009 18:50:27 GMT -5
Post by Grimmjow of the Funk on Jan 25, 2009 18:50:27 GMT -5
WOW. Well i do not believe that i can say as much about the show as the person above me, but the show is pretty sweet. I wish the show was still going on it was one of my favorites
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