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Post by waterbendergrl06 on Aug 25, 2008 16:06:35 GMT -5
Alright, just recently, I've realized that most of the nursery rhymes we've come to know and love, have dark themes to them. Ring Around the Rosie is about people dying from the black plague and Baa baa Black Sheep is about buying and selling slaves. Does anyone else know some evil truth about other rhymes?
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Post by irishgal on Aug 25, 2008 16:30:00 GMT -5
Yeah I did realize that a while ago too!
I knew the "Ring-around-the-roise" one....But never the "Ba Ba Black Sheep" one until you said it...Some other ones I heard...I did hear the "Humpty Dumpty" was supposedly about a canon or something.
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Post by Aanglover on Aug 25, 2008 16:40:44 GMT -5
Mary, Mary quite contrary,
How does your garden grow?
With silver bells and cockle shells
And pretty maids all in a row.
The illustrations of Mary in her garden for the nursery rhyme Mary, Mary Quite Contrary are usually those of a cherubic maiden tripping down the path in a whimsical garden full of bells and seashells. Occasionally, one might find a rather disconcerting Victorian interpretation of the rhyme with the heads of maidens as the face of the flowers but that is as disturbing as this popular nursery rhyme gets in modern interpretation. However, Mary’s prototype was not so sweet.
Mary, Mary quite contrary was about Bloody Mary?!!
A final interpretation goes to the heart of her persona as “Bloody Mary” with silver bells and cockle shells referring to instruments of torture: silver bells being thumbscrews and cockles shells being instruments of torture attached to the genitals. While the pretty maids would be a reference to early guillotine-type devices used to decapitate victims.
why do parents let their kids sing this stuff?!?!
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Post by Consonant*** on Aug 25, 2008 20:22:56 GMT -5
Rock a Bye Baby
/thread
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Post by goten0040 on Aug 25, 2008 20:45:39 GMT -5
Rub a dub dub... three men in a tub...
Hmm...
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Post by tiaramaki on Aug 28, 2008 12:47:21 GMT -5
waterbender: Geez... I never realized this until now. <___< Now I'm really confused about our culture. We sing Black Sheep, even though we're up in the region that was part of the North during the Civil War. What they hey? I guess kids are too ignorant (i.e., don't study about the meaning/ask their parents about it.) about these. @goten: Too bad kids don't know about that topic... ^^;;
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Post by Taintedmushroom on Aug 30, 2008 23:23:14 GMT -5
Hush-a-bye, baby, in the tree top. When the wind blows, the cradle will rock. When the bough breaks, the cradle will fall, And down will come baby, cradle and all.
Perhaps this qualifies.
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Post by bagpipe turtle on Aug 30, 2008 23:45:16 GMT -5
London Bridge is falling down, Falling down, Falling down. London Bridge is falling down, My fair lady.
Obviously not a good thing when a bridge falls down.
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Post by zukofan22 on Aug 31, 2008 17:56:08 GMT -5
Hush-a-bye, baby, in the tree top. When the wind blows, the cradle will rock. When the bough breaks, the cradle will fall, And down will come baby, cradle and all.Perhaps this qualifies. Yeah. It's about a baby falling from a tree to its presumed death! And they SING this to their own babies?
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Post by mike1921 on Aug 31, 2008 18:34:16 GMT -5
I've always found that song to be ubsurd.
And I want to meet the sick bastard who made all of these songs/ made them into tunes for children.
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Post by historyman12 on Aug 31, 2008 19:02:00 GMT -5
Why do you care so much?
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Post by That Kid Neo on Aug 31, 2008 19:02:24 GMT -5
I've been told "Jack and Jill" was actually about sex. And that Jack "breaking his crown" was really Jack losing his virginity. Also the "Humpty Dumpty" rhythme is about the collapse of British government (rumored). Oh, and check this out. I found it online too.
I had a little pony..." by Mother Goose
I had a little pony, His name was Dapple-gray, I lent him to a lady, To ride a mile away; She whipped him, she slashed him, She rode him through the mire; I would not lend my pony now For all the lady's hire.
nothing says nursery rhyme like drowned kids
"Three children sliding on the ice..." by Mother Goose Three children sliding on the ice Upon a summer's day, As it fell out, they all fell in, The rest they ran away.
Now had these children been at home, Or sliding on dry ground, Ten thousand pounds to one penny They had not all been drowned.
You parents all that children have, And you that have got none, If you would have them safe abroad, Pray keep them safe at home
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Post by Victim ~*of *~Circumstances on Sept 1, 2008 3:36:01 GMT -5
^Never heard of that virginity bit. I always thought it was grim because crown is another word for head. Hence, falling down and breaking his head....lots of blood.>.<
Here's one we used to sing in elementary.
Ladybird, ladybird fly away home, Your house is on fire and your children are gone, All except one, And her name is Ann, And she hid under the baking pan.
or
Ladybird, ladybird, fly away home, Your house is on fire, Your children shall burn!
'Course, they're only bugs but the wording is a bit grim if you interpret it in another way.
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Post by goten0040 on Sept 1, 2008 17:16:56 GMT -5
This might be inappropriate, with the subject of thinking about it... but...
"She'll be coming round the mountain when she comes." WHAT?
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Post by zukofan22 on Sept 1, 2008 19:31:08 GMT -5
Those were probably just to warn the little kids about dangers of life.
Like the Goldilocks and the Three Bears. Apparently, the bears KILLED Goldilocks and ate her, she didn't run away when she saw them.
They just didn't want to be TOO vivid, less they give the kid nightmares.
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