Zenjamin
Ba Sing Se Zuko
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Post by Zenjamin on Oct 7, 2007 22:30:02 GMT -5
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Post by dragonflly on Oct 7, 2007 22:36:07 GMT -5
^^There's nothing to fix. Zuko's got good in him and we all know it. He made some bad decisions and hurt people, and he knows this and it's killing him. He's being torn to shreds. His irrational behavior and hurtful words is himself trying to justify his actions; TO HIMSELF! Do you think all the development in his character during S2 was just there for bad storytelling? He's a complicated character, doing what we wanted him to do would have been....not so complicated now huh.
And yes I do re-evaluate people on a daily basis. But people make bad decisions, every day. Good people do bad things, it's life. And it's not blind faith, the creators themselves said it. They have shown it in many ways from the very first episode,
mindbender18: I was in no way singling anyone out. I simply stated that quite a few here that loved Zuko(even 2 wks ago) have now turned on the hate.
It brings a saying to mind and I'm sure you've all heard it: To Error is Human, but To Forgive is Devine. Imagine what the world would be like if you screwed up a few times and then everyone was out to get you. Let's not forget that Zuko really hasn't done anything, yet, that he cannot fix and make right.
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Silent_E
Appa
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Post by Silent_E on Oct 7, 2007 22:40:33 GMT -5
EDIT: allright! who voted for Aang?! It was me, I confess! It's just that people adore Aang. It doesn't matter what he does or how many mistakes he makes, he will always be loved. Zuko on the other hand is currently the most hated character in ATLA because of the choice he made in CoD. Heck, I hate the decision he made (and hated it even more when we found out he had feelings for Mai), but he felt that he made the right choice. Later he will come to see that he was wrong, and depending on if he is as strong a person I believe him to be, he will want to make things right. Besides compared to Aang, Zuko only had one or two people that actually cared for his well-being. (I guess you can add Mai to. )
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Post by cougarwildclaw on Oct 7, 2007 22:42:09 GMT -5
Zhao AND Long Feng. Zhao.Has.Wierd.SIDEBURNS. Long.Feng.Has.A.Wierd.Pizza-.Guy.Mustache. Hey I have sideburns. Ah well, my least favorite character right now would have to be Zuko. Im sure I will ike him again eventually, but until he clears his head agian I do believe I will dislike him.
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Firework
Avatar Aang
Free like a butterfly instead of a flying boar... butterflies are prettier anyway.
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Post by Firework on Oct 7, 2007 22:42:57 GMT -5
Wow, no one has voted for Ozai.
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Zenjamin
Ba Sing Se Zuko
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Post by Zenjamin on Oct 7, 2007 22:48:51 GMT -5
It brings a saying to mind and I'm sure you've all heard it: To Error is Human, but To Forgive is Devine. Imagine what the world would be like if you screwed up a few times and then everyone was out to get you. Let's not forget that Zuko really hasn't done anything, yet, that he cannot fix and make right. yes. i agree. and when he does something that warrants our forgiveness, he shall have it. but if this was real life, and there were no "creators", fan appeal, or plot devices that told you zoko was going to turn good. then you would have to wait to revise your judgement until action speaks for itself. also, sending an assassin out to kill someone seems like a pretty negative, permanent, unfixable decision to me. Wow, no one has voted for Ozai. i think the people who vote for the "bad guys" or ones who are created to be hated will vote for azula. shes just shown shes evil through and through. Besides compared to Aang, Zuko only had one or two people that actually cared for his well-being. (I guess you can add Mai to. ) dang affirmative-action. **runs away**
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SpiritBender
Buzzard Wasp
Ya tvoy hozyayn!!! (May The Force serve you well...)
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Post by SpiritBender on Oct 7, 2007 22:54:39 GMT -5
Wow, no one has voted for Ozai. ^^That's because he's pretty much been a non-entity whose only purpose thus far has been to give back-story to Zuko and Azula...
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Firework
Avatar Aang
Free like a butterfly instead of a flying boar... butterflies are prettier anyway.
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Post by Firework on Oct 7, 2007 22:58:48 GMT -5
Wow, no one has voted for Ozai. ^^That's because he's pretty much been a non-entity whose only purpose thus far has been to give back-story to Zuko and Azula... I remember the old days when Ozai was just a shadow and people hated his guts, now everyone is p***** at Zuko.
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Post by mindbender18 on Oct 8, 2007 6:58:12 GMT -5
but that is his fault though. He could've had more people who cared for him if he wasn't such a little......Zuko. I have no sympathy for him
Aang on the other hand, doesn't shun everyone who shows care for him
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Post by mike1921 on Oct 8, 2007 7:02:18 GMT -5
Well I have some level of sympathy for Zuko. But it's his fault,so I'm not gonna be like "creators help him!" Ok I hate AA and will bash it whenever possible but what does that have to do with this
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Fizzywig
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Post by Fizzywig on Oct 8, 2007 13:39:38 GMT -5
Meh im nto a fan of Zuko or Katara but to be honest,there is no character in Avatar i hate more than Mai. she just annoys me seriously being dour all the time is just not cool so at least some sense of a second emotion. ANYTHING ANYTHING AT ALL. and your emofests with zuko dont count!
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Post by paintedgirl on Oct 8, 2007 13:46:27 GMT -5
I liked Zuko in de first half of season three, caring for his own, respecting his uncle. I think he has the power to let freedom roam between water and fire. He should overthink what he has down with his uncle. Don't worry. He will save Iroh. He is like his real father, only not biological. Ty lee get's on my nerves because she is all giggly and way to girly to be in the fire nation army. She can't fall in love with Sokka, she is so much smaller than he is?
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Zenjamin
Ba Sing Se Zuko
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Post by Zenjamin on Oct 8, 2007 16:16:46 GMT -5
Ok I hate AA and will bash it whenever possible but what does that have to do with this[/quote] because Silent_E doesnt find Aang lacking ot negitive in any way. he just wanted to bring him down to make zuko look better. like perfectly capable white guys getting laid-off to make room for the under-represented. however the difference here. is Zuko actually disirves being droped form the hearts of the fans. ... dont respond to the AA part. i dont want this thread to turn political.
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shadowbender
Momo
Let's all hope he can find his way home
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Post by shadowbender on Oct 8, 2007 16:28:03 GMT -5
I pretty much hate those one episode characters that everyone seems to be obsessed with. meng for example. she appeared once. only once. Everyone is obsessed with her tho. characters like that tick me off not becaus eof themselves but because people make way too big a deal about them. (teo is an exception because he was always going to come back into the story for reasons too long for me to put the effort into explaining)
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Post by avatarasabat on Oct 8, 2007 16:30:34 GMT -5
^ word with what Zenjamin said I don't understand why people hate Aang, not that he's too cute to hate but I relate him better, I can understand being given something you never wanted. In my case Asperger's, his case being the Avatar. But we accept who we are find identity in it.
My least favorite is Azula not that she is evil, but because she's accually rather boring. She's ok to watch but I find her predicable and stale. Zuko is better antagonist, because his side is very confusing to keep up with. I disliked him since the start, but now I like the fact that he sided with Azula it makes him more darker and showing his real nature. and Ozai is to hot hate, watch him gives me the chills >D oooooo sexy evil >:3 ......... Who voted for Sokka D:
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