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Post by Scarlett Ember on Jun 18, 2008 15:52:27 GMT -5
Eh, just because Ty Lee was less predicable doesn’t mean she’s the braver one. Ty Lee did what she did in a split-second decision to save a friend but Mai did what she did with a bit of planning to save her boyfriend. Ty Lee did have to overcome more fear but Mai had to overcome fear too. You know, hence "I love Zuko more than I fear you." Honestly, I think one's (I meant that in general terms -sorry ) opinion on whose sacrifice was greater depends on which character one likes better. Actually I never saw Mai as someone who feared Azula that much anyway. Back when Azula is recruiting them to join her, she uses fear to get Ty Lee to agree, but Mai only does it because she's bored. Then in The Drill Ty Lee says they have to go into that sewage pipe because Azula told them to follow them, but Mai says something along the lines of "Azula can shoot all the lighting she wants at me, but I'm not going in there" <=not directly quoted, but it's the gist of it. Anyway, you can see she's pretty emotionless in general, including not really being afraid of Azula, at least not as much as Ty Lee. She wouldn't even fight in Crossroads of Destiny to keep them from taking the bear, and I'm sure Azula instructed them to guard it. Obviously she is probably a little scared of her, but several times she acts like she's not, so the betrayal didn't seem that big of a step for her. Ty Lee, on the other hand, was very afraid of Azula and seemed to do everything for her out of pure fear of what would happen if she refused. That's what made it so much more shocking when she stood up to Azula. I think she did it out of instinct, and obviously she didn't want Mai to die, but it wouldn't be an easy thing, and I think that's what makes it seem "braver," whether that's the right word for it or not.
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Post by mentalmishaps on Jun 18, 2008 21:12:55 GMT -5
You know, the reasons a lot of these characters are disliked seem to be the reasons I like them.
I like Mai. She isn't a good guy, that's for sure. She's a very typical teenager. The only reason she would go against Azula is for Zuko. I can't see her becoming good for the sake of it. I also really love her knife abilities. Sure, someone could rip their clothing, but the show is for kids. They can't have her stabbing people in the face nor can she be useless. You have to do a little reality bending to get around it, but when is that new? However, I don't think that people are really getting what Mai meant in The Beach. It wasn't that her mom told her what to do. I can picture Mai being forced to sit still as a very young girl for hours on end at her parents fancy parties. Of course, she wouldn't be allowed to talk to anyone, play with anyone, or do anything. She would have to keep her dress nice and neat. That's a lot to ask of a four or five year old. She was probably told "Stop fidgeting!" "Don't touch anything!" and "Don't cry; you're making a scene!" a LOT. That can definately make a person shut up like that. The actions with her brother in RTO were deplorable, but that is part of her character. She isn't a nice person.
Zhao was a perfect example of your run of the mill jackarse. He wasn't particularly talented, but he was determined to crawl up the ladder. Of course, I may be biased because I adore the character that Zhao was based off. The same applies to Long Feng. They were really realistic. You don't find many Azulas, but you find a lot of Zhaos and Long Fengs.
I agree with everyone about Katara, but I don't think that she is always bad. There are a lot of times that I really like her character. It just depends on which episode. The Runaway really made me like her while The Painted Lady made me hate her. It still wasn't enough to make her my least favorite.
Anyway, I'll probably be shot for this one, but my least favorite chracter was Jeong Jeong. I couldn't stand him. Him and his burning curse. Destruction! Pain! Burning! It is completely on him that Aang was afraid to firebend. If he had been a better teacher, Aang wouldn't have burned Katara. Iroh seems to manage his "burning curse" just fine thankyouverymuch.
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Post by bagpipe turtle on Jun 18, 2008 23:22:08 GMT -5
I like Mai. She isn't a good guy, that's for sure. She's a very typical teenager. The only reason she would go against Azula is for Zuko. And for her clothes. Really, there are two main reasons I don't like Mai. The first is that in Return to Omashu, she didn't show an ounce of care about her brother's safety. Sure, she "comforted" her mother, but it's pretty heartless to not be at all concerned about your baby brother. The second reason is that, had Zuko not been on the trolley thingy in Boiling Rock, she would have let all of those people plunge to their deaths in the lake. I know she's apathetic and stuff, but someone who would kill five people if her ex-boyfriend wasn't on the trolley is just... a truly evil person. (Note: This does apply to Ty Lee, too. Even though she's a sweetie and I like her better than Mai, her not doing anything did not make me like her or anything.) I cannot even fathom the cruelty and immorality of this. In my mind, it puts her far from a "typical teenager" status.
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Post by admirality on Jun 19, 2008 12:24:42 GMT -5
ARGHHH ROAR WHAT WHAT What other 5 ppl voted Ozai ? Show them to me !!!!! He is mine !!!!!! ne way I voted him first that constitutes ownership !!!!! *fangirl rage over* But at least he is beating Iroh heheheheheh lol
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Post by nymphadora on Jun 19, 2008 12:25:49 GMT -5
^^LEAST favorite character thread admirality.
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Post by admirality on Jun 19, 2008 12:28:00 GMT -5
^^ AWWWW darn it..... *feels like an ideaot*
LOL....... I was just coming to hav a secnd look when I saw the title least favourite character... LOL
*goes to the fourite character thread where I intended to go*
It is offical Admirality is an illiterate nincompoop
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Post by mentalmishaps on Jun 19, 2008 18:19:52 GMT -5
I like Mai. She isn't a good guy, that's for sure. She's a very typical teenager. The only reason she would go against Azula is for Zuko. And for her clothes. Really, there are two main reasons I don't like Mai. The first is that in Return to Omashu, she didn't show an ounce of care about her brother's safety. Sure, she "comforted" her mother, but it's pretty heartless to not be at all concerned about your baby brother. The second reason is that, had Zuko not been on the trolley thingy in Boiling Rock, she would have let all of those people plunge to their deaths in the lake. I know she's apathetic and stuff, but someone who would kill five people if her ex-boyfriend wasn't on the trolley is just... a truly evil person. (Note: This does apply to Ty Lee, too. Even though she's a sweetie and I like her better than Mai, her not doing anything did not make me like her or anything.) I cannot even fathom the cruelty and immorality of this. In my mind, it puts her far from a "typical teenager" status. That's true, Mai does love her clothing. And food. But I actually like that about her. I wouldn't necessarily like her personally for those traits, but it makes her an interseting character to me. And not caring about the others on the trolley is very teenage. From Mai's point of view, it wasn't any of her concern, and they were traitors. The same applies to Ty Lee. She knew that they would die, but they were her enemies. You tend to turn a blind eye to people you were just trying to kill (or disable).
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Post by concreteangel on Jun 19, 2008 18:29:25 GMT -5
On occasion, there's someone I can't stand.
But I think that all the characters are absolutely necessary and I don't know what Avatar would be without them.
So there's not a specific one for me to pick.
Except maybe Zhao.
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Post by nymphadora on Jun 20, 2008 8:23:41 GMT -5
Who said Sokka?! *angry fangirl rage* And Appa too. lol I think I voted for Sozin a while back....(because of 306... ) but now I'd say......well I don't really hate the characters on that list. I really don't like the Mechanist though.
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Post by concreteangel on Jun 20, 2008 11:37:53 GMT -5
I wanna know who said Aang. The MAIN character. How do you watch a show where you hate the main character?
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Post by admirality on Jun 20, 2008 12:13:08 GMT -5
I wanna know who said Aang. The MAIN character. How do you watch a show where you hate the main character? I voted aang.... he is my enemy after all ..... and in my books Ozai is the real star
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Post by mentalmishaps on Jun 20, 2008 12:37:05 GMT -5
Who said Sokka?! *angry fangirl rage* And Appa too. lol I think I voted for Sozin a while back....(because of 306... ) but now I'd say......well I don't really hate the characters on that list. I really don't like the Mechanist though. Haha, I never really liked him either. Or Teo for that matter.
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Post by admirality on Jun 20, 2008 16:27:33 GMT -5
I hav just rewatched the good bits of DOBS again and well ... WELL .... I hav very good reason to dislike Zuko ... Did u see him slam Ozai against the wall !!!! I hav fallen of a swing b4 onto my back kinda like when Ozai was slammed on that wall and I wasn't able to breathe afterwards so I know Ozai's pain poor honey bunny... what did he do to deserve that ? WHAT?.... Zuko's attack was unprovoked !!!!!... Therefore I hav all the more reason to hav Zuko as a least favourite character as well as aang ... U cannot argue with my logic
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Liamane
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Alas, the bliss of childhood...
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Post by Liamane on Jun 20, 2008 16:36:05 GMT -5
Actually, there are times where I'd love to ring my hands around Aang's neck. But, I went with Mai. XDD I have respect for every character on the show; I mean, I can tolerate just about anyone, even Katara in her psychopathic moments of threatening others or Zuko while he betrays his uncle and temporarily kills all of his endeavors to become a good guy. But Mai, lovely Mai, just gets on my nerves. She's so bland- at least everyone else sports expression. A lot of people say that "The Beach" changed their perspective on Mai. As for myself, nothing changed at all.
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Post by nymphadora on Jun 20, 2008 16:41:31 GMT -5
LOL admirality. Ozai didn't shoot lightning at him or anything. XD
I'm the same Liamane. Sometimes Aang's annoying, sometimes I don't mind him. Mai's just boring. :/
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