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Post by marvel26 on Nov 10, 2007 7:11:02 GMT -5
AH MAN!!! I think The Puppetmaster is the best episode so far!!! It was deffinatly creepy, and I loved it!! That ghost story Katara told about her mother's friend? *shudders* Ooooooh!! I was wondering when they'd get around to Blood Bending. When I first saw what Water Benders could do I immediately thought of blood bending. Albeit not in such a family friendly way. First off, when one's blood is taken control off, that person is dead. As in right away. Your blood has stopped flowing. Your heart is pumping but nothing is moving. You are going to die an agonizing death.. A water bender could freeze your blood in your viens. This equals death. Your blood vessels can simply burst. Or if one was really sadistic, one could easily dehydrate one's victim or just rip all the blood right through their skin pores. So when Aang and Sokka were controlled, they should have died on the spot. Yet they were lucid and concious, meaning blood was still moving in their bodies normally or at least to their brains. Oh and the other benders are just as lethal. An air bender might be able to remove all the air around a target creating a vacuum. Suffocation ensues. They could deflate the targets lungs by forcing all the air out. Watch as the chest caves in on itself. Likewise they can cause the targets lungs to over inflate and explode. Fire needs oxygen to burn. We breathe oxygen. Theoretically a fire bender can ignite the air in our lungs and/or around us. Or if they worked at an atomic level, the target could spontneously combust. Earth Benders attack you where you stand. That's bad enough, having a spike just drill through your chest out of nowhere. Unless they can fly, an Earth Bender will be constantly keeping their target on their toes. Pun intended. Now that Toph can manipulate metal, it just gets more gruesome. Blood has hemoglobin in it to absorb oxygen. Iron is a main component of hemoglobin. You do the math. Ever seen X-Men 2? The scene where Magneto just draws out all the iron in his prison guard's body. But since Toph needs to been in close contact with the metal she wants to use, I'd say she might be able to cause blood cells to clump together causing a clot when she grabs a person's arm or leg. Imagine a clot moving to or foiming in the brain. Not a nice way to go. Darn I went off topic. Anyway, The Puppet Master didn't really have any Taang moments in it. Aang warning Toph about the makeshift Sea Prunes was funny but then I'd warn my friends if they were going to ingest poison. It's right thing to do. What I did note was that Toph learned a minor lesson about Sokka. Never insult the Moon. Captain Bommerang still has feelings for it. I guess that's why she blushed when he kept urging her to open the locked box. "I'm making Sokka happy/exicted. Yay!" Or something along those lines must have been going on in her head. We need the mention or, if the writers willing, the reappearance of Suki to shake things up.
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Post by K9Thefirst1 on Nov 10, 2007 8:19:44 GMT -5
I had wondered if they were going to do this, just to see how. And, to misquote Tiny Iroh: "Each element has it's own strengths, and weaknesses. And even it's own darker side." And while I did see X2, the thought of Toph bending the iron in the blood didn't cross my mind. But you forgot another potential use of Blood-Metalbending: Clots to the heart. Toph could quite easily make a large clot in the Superior/Inferior Vena Cava, or the Aorta. Blood wouldn't be able to get in, or out. Or better yet, she could fill up one of either the ventricles or atria with blood cells. The ultimate Heart Attack. Anyay, here's that fic I told you about: BloodbenderAnd here's one I found today that was inspired by it: Redemption Spinning Darkly
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Post by marvel26 on Nov 10, 2007 8:44:49 GMT -5
I had wondered if they were going to do this, just to see how. And, to misquote Tiny Iroh: "Each element has it's own strengths, and weaknesses. And even it's own darker side." And while I did see X2, the thought of Toph bending the iron in the blood didn't cross my mind. But you forgot another potential use of Blood-Metalbending: Clots to the heart. Toph could quite easily make a large clot in the Superior/Inferior Vena Cava, or the Aorta. Blood wouldn't be able to get in, or out. Or better yet, she could fill up one of either the ventricles or atria with blood cells. The ultimate Heart Attack. Anyay, here's that fic I told you about: BloodbenderAnd here's one I found today that was inspired by it: Redemption Spinning DarklyWill check those out as soon as possible. I doubt clotting would be in Toph's arsenal, even if she was evil. It'd take too long to kill a person she'd need to move the clot to the desired position first. Even if she did place her hands over the heart she'd still need to be in close contact. Be fine as a torture and interrogation technique but not a battle technique. A spike from right underneath the target would serve much better. In fact Long Feng did a potentially lethal move on Appa once, when he flipped the poor guy over. There was a hidden space underneath the furball but what if there wasn't? A heck of a mess for the city cleaners to deal with.
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Post by taiyo *on limited hiatus* on Nov 10, 2007 9:40:54 GMT -5
Dang, all those ways to kill with each element calls for a horror filled, well written fanfic. Though I'm reading a fanfic called Eyes are the Window to the Soul and in there the authoress briefly said that Aang won the war by exploding his lungs with airbending. So other than the airbending one.....the rest surprised me. *also plans on checking out those fics* I found Aang warning Toph about the sea prunes funny too. Just too preteens having each other's back on what to watch out for when eating. I was trying to figure out why Toph was blushing. That makes perfect sense.
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Post by marvel26 on Nov 10, 2007 10:06:04 GMT -5
Dang, all those ways to kill with each element calls for a horror filled, well written fanfic. Why am I having images of Zuko as Michael Myers? And Mai as Jigsaw's succesor? I had an idea for a dark fusion with DC comics once. Couldn't think of anyone to be the hero though. Zuko as Two-Face. Katara as Killer Frost. Sokka as Captain Boomerang (Most obvious) Toph as Terra. (Not the one from the cartoon) Ty Lee as Harley Quinn Mai as Rose Wilson Azula as Live Wire. I guess Aang could be the Red Tornado. But he's a hero. Look up the Red Tornado at wikipedia. Notice the similarities?
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Post by taiyo *on limited hiatus* on Nov 10, 2007 10:10:48 GMT -5
*innocently* I dunno. :3 Michael Myers I know (shucks I watch him at least three times a week) but who's Jigsaw? I'd have to look up all of them except Sokka's character and....I think I know who Two Faced man is.....I'm seriously deprived from comics. *goes to Wikipedia* EDIT: Dang, I haven't even read yet and the dude has yellow arrows on his head and arms.
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Post by marvel26 on Nov 10, 2007 10:15:48 GMT -5
*innocently* I dunno. :3 Michael Myers I know (shucks I watch him at least three times a week) but who's Jigsaw? EDIT: Dang, I haven't even read yet and the dude has yellow arrows on his head and arms. And he controls the wind too! Not Mike Myers as is Austin Powers. Michael Myers as in the killer from the Halloween movies. And Jigsaw's the villian from the Saw movies. Places people in deadly situations in order for them to...change their ways. Getting back to the Taang here though. The closest we'll ever get to a supernatural killer in the show is Koh. I'm still crossing my fingers that he attacks Toph. Stop looking at me like that. He attacks her and gives Aang the explanation we've all been waiting for. You know the one.
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Post by taiyo *on limited hiatus* on Nov 10, 2007 10:32:35 GMT -5
Niiccce. Oh I know. I watch the Halloween movies all the time. I'm glad they finally aired The Curse of Michael Myers again. I've waited three years for them to do this. Ohhhhh, that guy. o.O He scares the crap outta me and I haven't even seen the Saw Movies. ROFLMBO. Yeah, great plot. Seriously, I would wanna see how Aang goes into action about that so...we're both probably getting stared at. XDD
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Post by Maylene on Nov 10, 2007 14:49:22 GMT -5
Dang, all those ways to kill with each element calls for a horror filled, well written fanfic. Why am I having images of Zuko as Michael Myers? And Mai as Jigsaw's succesor? I had an idea for a dark fusion with DC comics once. Couldn't think of anyone to be the hero though. Zuko as Two-Face. Katara as Killer Frost. Sokka as Captain Boomerang (Most obvious) Toph as Terra. (Not the one from the cartoon) Ty Lee as Harley Quinn Mai as Rose Wilson Azula as Live Wire. I guess Aang could be the Red Tornado. But he's a hero. Look up the Red Tornado at wikipedia. Notice the similarities? Wow those are all good. I love the characters you chose for each. Though which Terra are we talking about, if it's not the one from the cartoon? And I looked up Red Tornado and I laughed. XD Hehee Aang would be good as the Red Tornado, however if you can't find anything for Aang make up your own superhero. And of course Sokka still has feelings for the moon. I believe he always will.
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Post by K9Thefirst1 on Nov 10, 2007 18:36:46 GMT -5
Okay, let's see if we can get back on topic with this thought exercise:
Let's just suppose, for a second, that Katara, by accident or by design, kills someone with Bloodbending.
Now what would everyone's reactions to that be? Or more specifically, Aang and Toph's? And what would be the ramifications/consequences of said reactions?
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Post by Maylene on Nov 10, 2007 18:39:34 GMT -5
Aang would probably be horrified but he would forgive her. After all, he didn't mind conning ppl or how in the first season, Katara stole. As for Toph, she'd probably be shocked, but wouldn't hold it against her.
If it were intentional though, they may seem her differently.
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Post by taiyo *on limited hiatus* on Nov 10, 2007 18:46:25 GMT -5
Dang, that was morbid but original. The way Maylene outlined it makes sense so....yeah. Aang doesn't seem to really hold grudges except for Zuko it seems but let's not go there and neither does Toph. Now intentional....that would be pretty disturbing.
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Post by mike1921 on Nov 10, 2007 18:59:17 GMT -5
Taiyo, why does your siggy look like Katara and Toph made a plan to tourcher Aang in some way, shape or form?...It depends, who does she kill?? and lets just say it was random FN guard number 94, Toph wouldn't really care unless she killed them slowly and painfully, and Aang would stare but would eventually forget ti
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Post by taiyo *on limited hiatus* on Nov 10, 2007 19:07:04 GMT -5
My sig really looks like that? O.o Oh well...don't tick me off, Aang. For the enemy..I guess they would look at it as she had to do what she had to do. The painfully and slowly....ouch. >_<
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Post by marvel26 on Nov 10, 2007 19:22:50 GMT -5
Maybe as a plot twist she kills Zuko. Just a thought. If Katara does kill, it'll be a necessary evil. War and killing are a package deal. If they win the war without killing anyone then I'd be skeptical. Of course if she takes pleasure in squeezing the life out of her victims...well, let's just say if Aang still looks the other way about that then he's not worthy of being the Avatar...or human. If Katara faces Azula she might take pleasure in hurting the princess. Toph would be shocked in a way. Remember, sheltered life to an extent. She was really freaked when Iroh got struck in the shoulder by Azula. She was also the one to sense Jet's condition I think. One case of near death and another full death experienced on hand kinda does a toll on a person especially if their young. Now if Katara were to tell Toph that she killed someone without Toph actually being there to confirm it, Toph might feel a little creeped out but she would let it go. If she were on hand to 'see' Katara snap a person's spine by twisting their body using blood bending, she'd be shocked. "What happened to Sugar Queen?" Sh'ed look past it but I think she wouldn't 'look' at Katara the same way. This would be compounded if Toph did not directly kill anyone during the war, just maimed or seriously injured them or if they got crushed by falling debris, she can't really help that in a frantic battle. "If I can do it without killing anyone, why can't she?" I don't see her personal motive for killing anyone. The war hasn't taken a lot from her. Yes, her country has been over run. But her parents might still be okay if they are subservient to the Fire Nation. Lao Bei Fong is a business man first and foremost. I'm sure he'd find a way to work the situation to his family's favor. Be a shock if he turns traitor...well it wouldn't be really. "As long as I get my daughter back, the Fire Nation has my full financial support. The Avatar must die!" If Toph does kill and she kills for Sokka, I'd have nothing to say. I don't mean that Sokka gets killed and she takes revenge. That's understandable. I mean she kills to impress him. That's just wrong in my book. Aang would have to kill Ozai. I don't see him surrendering. If the writers don't want to write Aang as a killer due to the viewer demographic, they could write Ozai's death as an accident. Personally, I'm hoping Zuko kills Ozai. Maylene: The Terra from the comics.
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