attonbitus
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Post by attonbitus on May 29, 2007 10:43:56 GMT -5
So anyone else out there watch MMA? Personally i've only watched UFC fights. Their Heavy Weight division is pretty boring IMO. The Light Heavy Weights were the same for a while what with Chuck Liddell beating everyone left and right. All that changed with the import of Pride talent to the UFC. Now that Rampage is the new LHW Champ it'll be a more dynamic division. Personally though, the UFC welterweights is were all the action is at. You've got a group of incredibly talented guys all going for the same belt. Matt Huges is the 'de facto' #1 in the division for his dominance for the last couple of year. George St. Pierre is seen as the new successor/rival for Huges. The current champ is Matt Sera who shocked the world by beating GSP for the title with some heavy hands, some say lucky . One of my personal favorite fighters is Karo Parisyn. The guy is a judo expert and has the best fights regardless of winning.
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kooties
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Post by kooties on Jun 8, 2007 11:10:16 GMT -5
Honestly I haven't watched UFC since UFC 5. But I have heard of people like Liddell (honestly, who hasn't?). I stopped watching it since they were kinda onesided in regards to the arts. Basically all of them were either BJJ's , Judo guys, Wrestlers and Shootfighters. The sport just seemed to lack flair (but I've heard they've gotten better) and that all fights ended either by a triangle choke(VERY often), a kimura ,an armbar(rarely) ,a leglock(rarely) and sometimes an occasional KO(Yay!). I understand those are probably the most "effective" ways of dispatching an opponent but they kinda become boring the umpteenth time. Another thing that drives me away are the rules (and haven't they increased over time?) I know these people are not aiming to kill each other, but they kinda limit some martial arts, most notably CMA's(kung fu) as they rely on weapons,neck/ball shots and eye gouging(although I see why they should keep those rules).
But people say it has become more lively and strike oriented than before with the increase in boxers/MT's. So I kinda wanna watch but can't (not on my cable anymore...)
Just a question... are there any serious CMA fighters now or at least people who have some semblances of CMA's in their styles? Or is it still the big 4 (BJJ,Wrestling,Judo,Shootfighters?)
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attonbitus
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Post by attonbitus on Jun 8, 2007 15:03:37 GMT -5
i would say that BJJ, Wrestling, Boxing, and Muay Thai (all mixed in one)are the predominate skills sets that you'll see in most MMA bouts. Judo is actually rather rare since not many Judokas have been able to transition their grappling skills to fighting without a top. The exception is Karo Parisyan (one of my favorite fighters). The general skill level of the higher tier MMA orgs has improved to where a majority of the fighters know decent ground defense and will actively fight their way against the various submission holds. So when a fight does end in a submission it is usually hard won. Stand up striking varies a lot from fighter to fighter. You'll see mostly basic boxing as a majority. The problem with traditional kung fu systems in MMA is that they traditionally take a long time to master and even then many of today's systems never actively full contact spar making the transition very hard. Of course as you mentioned the restrictions on certain technique also hamper "kung fu" fighters such as no open palm strikes. As far as the UFC is concerned I'd recommend watching lightweight and welterweight fights as those two divisions contain the more talented technique fighters while the other divisions are more often about who's stronger in a brawl. If Pride was still ran the way it was I'd say check that out as they had more varied skilled fighters, but it's been bought by the parent company (ZUFFA) that owns the UFC and is pretty much getting gutted with all the top talent entering the UFC. But back to your original question While not really popular in the US over in China San Shou/Sanda fighting (mma equivalent) is gaining popularity. It was developed around the same time as modern Wushu as a form of united techniques that could be used in competition. It does however feature some fighters with some traditional kung fu background. more info www.sanshou.com/article-sanshou.htmlSome notable fighters are Liu Hailong and Cung Le. If you hit youtube there's plenty of vids.
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kooties
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Post by kooties on Jun 12, 2007 5:17:37 GMT -5
thanks for the site.. sorry for not replying earlier (we went out of town) oh well... KARMA!
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attonbitus
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Post by attonbitus on Jun 24, 2007 21:40:33 GMT -5
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