historyman12
Fugitive Iroh
IS IT JULY 14TH YET?
Posts: 4,822
|
Post by historyman12 on Jan 20, 2008 13:05:27 GMT -5
^And herr Paul was ripped to shreds in SC.
and so was Giuliani
|
|
Zenjamin
Ba Sing Se Zuko
Toko supporter
Posts: 2,617
|
Post by Zenjamin on Jan 20, 2008 13:23:32 GMT -5
Paul Still beat Rudy in SC too... really, RP has caused Rudy so much embarassment, im surprised he is still in the race. he doesnt even have a message he is getting accross to the people. abyways, RP is the only campainging in Louisiana right now, and it has allot of independents. getting 2ed will give him allot of momentum (if at least SOME of the media recognize it) but if he wins 1st in Lousiana with that momentum.... I sont even want to say how big that would be least i Jinx it. and because Being the last to post on a page and having the post referenced but not quoted right after it was posted is a big pet peeve of mice. Good news people, In the Nevada primary... Ron Paul got 2ed. YA BOI! EDIT: WHAT THE FRACK!? www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsoSX_b4lSoRP was nipping at Mccain's heels when Fox News did this, yet they didnt even mention his name and highlighted Huckabee instead?? Rupert Murdoch needs to be assassinated. EDIT: ok, sorry about that... calming down now and getting back to being optimistic. So RP actually has a chance of winning Louisiana after that performance. this is quite exciting. EDIT: www.youtube.com/watch?v=tge6RaL26S0LUL, start watching 4 minutes into it. Pimpen for Paul. I love it.
|
|
|
Post by Consonant*** on Jan 20, 2008 15:50:50 GMT -5
Paul Still beat Rudy in SC too... really, RP has caused Rudy so much embarassment, im surprised he is still in the race. he doesnt even have a message he is getting accross to the people. Because Rudy's totally been running in those states. Seriously, why do you keep comparing him to Giuliani? Giuliani has been focusing on Florida, where Ron Paul will get destroyed by not only Giuliani, but people who have won multiple states ALREADY, I.E. Romney and McCain. Paul's barely been doing better then Thompson, who's possibly about to drop out. Holy crap he might win A STATE! That wil ttly get him teh nomnation lololololololol. Good news people, In the Nevada primary... Ron Paul got 2ed. YA BOI! EDIT: WHAT THE FRACK!? www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsoSX_b4lSoRP was nipping at Mccain's heels when Fox News did this, yet they didnt even mention his name and highlighted Huckabee instead?? Because Huckabee, Romney, McCain and Giuliani are the only one who have a shot at the nomination.
|
|
Zenjamin
Ba Sing Se Zuko
Toko supporter
Posts: 2,617
|
Post by Zenjamin on Jan 20, 2008 16:52:14 GMT -5
honestly, your right, those three are the only ones who have a shot at the nomination. and that is because the mass media tell sheepele like yourself who has a chance at winning and you follow that instead of actually listening to the policies and ideas of the candidates.
but if RP wins a state, AND the media recognizes him as a contender, the he will have the momentum and his policies and ideas will come into the public light.
The catch22 situation of "the media doesnt recognize canadateX because he doesnt have a change" and "Xcanadate doesnt have a chance because the media wont recognize him" is really starting ot tick me off.
its time to [morpheus voice]free your mind[/morpheus voice] from what the media tells you about who has a chance and evaluate canadates on their ideas independtly.
It it for this reason that the political philophers of old were so clinical of democracy. the fear that people would not act on logic, but rather on how other powerful entities could control "the mob"
PS dont fool yourself, Giuliani doesnt have a snowballs chance in hell at the nomination. RP is a longshot as well, but even if he cant win he is getting his message out for the future generation.
|
|
|
Post by Consonant*** on Jan 20, 2008 19:51:00 GMT -5
honestly, your right, those three are the only ones who have a shot at the nomination. and that is because the mass media tell sheepele like yourself who has a chance at winning and you follow that instead of actually listening to the policies and ideas of the candidates. Except nobody votes for somebody purely based on their chance to win. A candidate needs to find a balance between popularity and issues. You act as if the only thing stopping Ron Paul from being elected is the fact that nobody knows about him. But face it, he's running as a REPUBLICAN, he's AGAINST THE WAR, he's PRO-LIFE, he SUPPORTS STEM-CELL RESEARCH and he's AGAINST THE DEATH PENALTY. With those views he'd be much more suited for running as a Democrat, but if you waver even the tiniest bit against their Big Mother ideals you're screwed. Except he'll never be a contender because he'll never appeal to any major base. Not the Evangelicals, not the Die-hard liberals, not the Vets, nobody. The fact of the matter is that he's too sui generis to actually get any mainstream support. Which is why I chose McCain and/or Thompson the second they entered their ballots. Or Hillary, possibly. I would've chosen Duncan Hunter or Allen Keyes, but they're kinda not running anymore.
|
|
Zenjamin
Ba Sing Se Zuko
Toko supporter
Posts: 2,617
|
Post by Zenjamin on Jan 20, 2008 21:02:55 GMT -5
O, but how mistaken you are, RP is more of a traditional conservative then any of those NEO-Cons. Please watch this following link. (which Fox has banned form the airwaves.) www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lprnp7ZzT0PS The vets give more money to RP then any other candidate. the current serving troops give more to RP then any other candidate. also, why do you think being Pro-Life would make someone better to run as a democrat? the other things are addressed in the link i provided. PPS. a great deal of the Thompson supporters, for his(verbal) support of the constitution, and the Huckabee supporters ,for his support of the free tax act, have said that they support RP as a secondary. Thompson is getting nowhere, and is starting to run out of money, while Huckabee is almost broke. If/when they drop out, many of their supporters will go to RP.
|
|
|
Post by Consonant*** on Jan 20, 2008 21:16:00 GMT -5
O, but how mistaken you are, RP is more of a traditional conservative then any of those NEO-Cons. Please watch this following link. (which Fox has banned form the airwaves.) www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lprnp7ZzT0Now you're just arguing semantics. That's like telling somebody nobody can be somebody's "surd" because they're not a female dog. Meanings change, and if you think that names matter, then you're sorely mistaken. "That which we call a rose by any other word would smell as sweet". Whether or not he's more "conservative" than anyone else is irrelevant if nobody who identifies as a Republican agrees with him. Sources?
|
|
|
Post by Grimmjow of the Funk on Jan 20, 2008 21:18:52 GMT -5
zenj it doesn't matter if he is secondary to others he is not number one which is why he is all but dead, i know he is popular on the internet but that isn't enough, yeah he has support but he ain't gonna win.
|
|
Fireman
Jet
Me in Anime form
Posts: 376
|
Post by Fireman on Jan 26, 2008 11:36:15 GMT -5
What no way, YOU are the idiot. Ron Paul is goin to win... well I don't know for sure but he sould because I don't want to have to have a camera monitering me in my car when I get my licence. Or to have my computer moniterd by the government. my buisness is not theirs.
|
|
Zenjamin
Ba Sing Se Zuko
Toko supporter
Posts: 2,617
|
Post by Zenjamin on Jan 29, 2008 18:26:28 GMT -5
|
|
Gandalan
Casual Zuko
Wavemaster
Posts: 979
|
Post by Gandalan on Jan 31, 2008 9:20:07 GMT -5
... On another side note, I think Ron Paul is awesome. He's more libertarian than the libertarian candidate. XD In any case, try Glass Booth to see who you match up with. I had Ron Paul. Even if he doesn't win the nomination, I'd vote for him as an independent.
|
|
Zenjamin
Ba Sing Se Zuko
Toko supporter
Posts: 2,617
|
Post by Zenjamin on Jan 31, 2008 10:20:05 GMT -5
Libertarian and traditional republican are verry close to one another. Ron Paul is also much more (traditional)republican then any of the republican candidates. smaller government, constitutional loyalty, lower Taxes, Power in the people not the bureaucracy, a humble foreign policy, ect... the current NEO-Cons are a completely new breed Update: Ron Paul at the CNN Reagan Library Debate 1-30-08
|
|
|
Post by Consonant*** on Jan 31, 2008 17:10:47 GMT -5
... On another side note, I think Ron Paul is awesome. He's more libertarian than the libertarian candidate. XD In any case, try Glass Booth to see who you match up with. I had Ron Paul. Even if he doesn't win the nomination, I'd vote for him as an independent. It was virtually a three-way tie between Huckabee (76%), Romney (74%) and McCain (71%). And Huckabee freaks me out with his die-hard Christiandom, while I don't like the fact that Romney's a lawyer for life. Libertarian and traditional republican are verry close to one another. Ron Paul is also much more (traditional)republican then any of the republican candidates. smaller government, constitutional loyalty, lower Taxes, Power in the people not the bureaucracy, a humble foreign policy, ect... the current NEO-Cons are a completely new breed Point?
|
|
Zenjamin
Ba Sing Se Zuko
Toko supporter
Posts: 2,617
|
Post by Zenjamin on Feb 7, 2008 21:30:34 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by Consonant*** on Feb 7, 2008 22:21:00 GMT -5
Just because he's more of a traditional Republican doesn't mean he's gonna get the nomination. There's a reason Neocons keep getting it, you know.
|
|