nandireya
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Post by nandireya on Feb 3, 2007 6:56:27 GMT -5
Aang's injury was far worse than the one that led to Zuko's scar. Azula had, according to Nick, actually killed Aang. Zuko's injury was bad but it doesn't seem that it threatened his life.
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Post by spook on Feb 3, 2007 7:57:25 GMT -5
So what? A wound is a wound, right? Aang's wound was still fresh, so if the spirit water was simply a more potent form of ordinary water, it would have easily healed it if it would have been able to heal scars. Scars after all are not wounds, and can't be healed. So if this water would in some magical way have managed to let Zuko's scar evaporate into thin air, then the least it would have been able to do was heal a regular burn, no matter how severe.
I personally think it's called spirit water for a reason: it didn't heal Aang's body, but it did heal (or in this case, revive) his spirit. So perhaps it's just a form of water which is able to heal the spirit, rather than the body.
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Post by luthien on Feb 3, 2007 9:19:22 GMT -5
Whoa... Nick says Aang actually died? I checked their site and didn't see a reference, only to the fact that he was mortally wounded and healed. Yikes!
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Post by Sokkaroksya on Feb 3, 2007 14:25:21 GMT -5
Yeah, I wasn't under the impression that he actually DIED...just got a major shock to his system, as it were. And maybe the spirit water didn't heal the wound because it didn't have to, it just had to keep Aang from dying.
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Post by Everwen45 on Feb 3, 2007 16:33:58 GMT -5
Aang's injury was far worse than the one that led to Zuko's scar. Azula had, according to Nick, actually killed Aang. Zuko's injury was bad but it doesn't seem that it threatened his life. Nowhere in the Nick site says that Aang died. Was he mortally wounded? Nobody it's arguing that, but people can get that wounded and yet against all odds survive. C'mon guys, no matter how cool Katara's healing abilities can be, she can't bring people back from dead, not even with the water from the Northern Water Tribe's spirit oasis.
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Post by zutarian4eva on Feb 3, 2007 16:59:21 GMT -5
I think Katara was inspecting it first, to see how badly the damage was, she was possibly thinking about if she was about to do the right thing...Maybe after all that, water will just do the trick of healing the scar besides the Oasis Water, and, WHAT DOES ZUKO KNOW ABOUT HEALING ABILITIES? I liked the way Zuko closed his eyes and left her touch his scar...*Squee*
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Post by spook on Feb 3, 2007 19:35:17 GMT -5
Aang's injury was far worse than the one that led to Zuko's scar. Azula had, according to Nick, actually killed Aang. Zuko's injury was bad but it doesn't seem that it threatened his life. Nowhere in the Nick site says that Aang died. Was he mortally wounded? Nobody it's arguing that, but people can get that wounded and yet against all odds survive. C'mon guys, no matter how cool Katara's healing abilities can be, she can't bring people back from dead, not even with the water from the Northern Water Tribe's spirit oasis. Seeing as Aang dying in the Avatar State was already blatantly foreshadowed in episode 201, I think it's pretty much a given that he actually did die. Oh, plus I think pooldude confirmed it (not sure though), and we all know that pooldude's word = indisputable truth. [/slight sarcasm]
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Post by Melis on Feb 3, 2007 22:39:51 GMT -5
Aang's injury was far worse than the one that led to Zuko's scar. Azula had, according to Nick, actually killed Aang. Zuko's injury was bad but it doesn't seem that it threatened his life. Nowhere in the Nick site says that Aang died. Was he mortally wounded? Nobody it's arguing that, but people can get that wounded and yet against all odds survive. C'mon guys, no matter how cool Katara's healing abilities can be, she can't bring people back from dead, not even with the water from the Northern Water Tribe's spirit oasis. Well, it did have "special properties". If Yue was saved because of being bathed in the water from the Spirit Oasis, who's to say that it couldn't have helped Aang in some way? I think Katara healed the Avatar Spirit, along with Aang, which would mean that Aang the Person and the Avatar Spirit are probably one in the same. Plus, pooldude confirmed that he did infact did die while he was in the Avatar State so now we're stuck between whether or not the cycle is broken or if the Avatar State was completely destroyed.
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Post by Everwen45 on Feb 3, 2007 23:15:44 GMT -5
^Fine... he died, thought I would like to see the post where pooldude says it. Anyway...
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Post by yiceman on Feb 4, 2007 3:48:26 GMT -5
I figure the water worked like a difibulator. Aang wasn't dead-as-a-doornail ,kicked-the-bucket, full on corpse-like, but his system had shut down leaving him technically deceased for a moment. If Katara hadn't gotten to him fast enough, I doubt the water would have been able to do anything. If it was a magic water that could bring back a 3-day-old corpse, Pakku would have mentioned it.
P.S. It seems to me like Katara would know the limits of her healing abilities better than any of us. If she thought the water could heal a scar, I trust her professional opinion.
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nandireya
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Post by nandireya on Feb 4, 2007 3:55:18 GMT -5
He was mortally wounded...that's what mortally wounded means...the wound is so bad it leads to death...
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Post by luthien on Feb 4, 2007 5:20:27 GMT -5
;)I'm guessing they'll have to actually mention the specifics of what happened to Aang after Azula shot him down with the lightning. It was apparent he suffered a mortal wound, but not apparent that he actually succumbed - my impression was that Aang was at death's door and brought back from the brink, but that he didn't actually "cross over," so to speak. I had guessed that the reason they had such an explicit explanation of death in the Avatar State back in 201 was so we would have a grasp of just how high the stakes were should Aang *not* be brought back from the brink (because based on previous knowledge it would be assumed he'd just be reincarnated). My impression when Katara healed Aang was that she brought both him as an individual and the Avatar State as a whole back from death's door. But we'll have to see what the official explanation is...
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Post by nandireya on Feb 4, 2007 5:30:40 GMT -5
It will certainly be interesting if she brought Aang back without the Avatar State...it would make his final confrontation with Ozai a lot more difficult...and without the Avatar State he doesn't have to let go of Katara...
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Post by spook on Feb 4, 2007 6:37:15 GMT -5
P.S. It seems to me like Katara would know the limits of her healing abilities better than any of us. If she thought the water could heal a scar, I trust her professional opinion. Katara: "I don't know if it'll work, but..." She probably was as clueless as we are. She had only used her healing ability to heal small burns before, so it's likely she herself didn't know the full extent of her abilities. Especially considering she never payed too much attention to it, as all she wanted to do was learn how to fight. Where would the fun in that be? If that's the case Aang could just wake up in episode 301, remember he still has to open the last Chakra, do it and Boom, bye bye firenation. And thus a lot more interesting. Finally a protagonist who has to face the ultimate evil without being able to depend on some ubermegapowerfull power-up to save his butt.
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Post by luthien on Feb 4, 2007 6:57:31 GMT -5
I think opening the last chakra is just the beginning of mastering the Avatar State for Aang, though - and it's clear he still has trouble with doing what's necessary to voluntarily enter the Avatar State *and* still cover his behind to make sure he doesn't get killed. Which is where the rest of the GAang comes in - making sure Aang isn't vulnerable when he's doing his Avatar thing. (Which makes me wonder - has he told them yet that if he dies in the Avatar state the whole thing ends? I can't remember if he did - I don't think he did.) This whole incident might lead to Aang having to come clean about not fully mastering the Avatar state (which he lied about), and revealing to his friends that the stakes are much higher than they think. The GAang has a very important job they don't know about - well, they know they don't want anything bad to happen to Aang, but they must now additionally know that he's not all-powerful when in the Avatar state - he can still be killed - and that it's their very important job to protect him at all costs if he's to finish his job. Plus, there's the issue of his firebending, which he still has yet to master.
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