reyairia
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Post by reyairia on Aug 19, 2007 7:04:35 GMT -5
I'm still trying to decide whether I will read another Zutara fanfic but if you put Sokkla in there,I will read it. Haha, well I have only one OC that has a connection with two people, but that's really all I could say so it could happen. XD I dunno. I might actually make Azula turn good in the sequel, but I don't know. Oh well =D Azula turn good? You're going to have to work really hard into making that believable. X3
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Post by fcsquibbles on Aug 19, 2007 10:41:50 GMT -5
Going through this all over again. When I was following IchiRuki, it being one of THE most popular Bleach ships meant that it got a lot of negative attack (obviously by non-IchiRuki people). Now with Zutara, when I popped over to the Kataang thread, same sort of sense is felt (well except for Zutara & Kataang fans). There is a Chinese saying that "Greatest popularity can even make the heavens jealous". Wonder if that's so. *sigh* Can't people be happy and just have fun.
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Post by aurelia on Aug 19, 2007 11:00:49 GMT -5
Haha, well I have only one OC that has a connection with two people, but that's really all I could say so it could happen. XD I dunno. I might actually make Azula turn good in the sequel, but I don't know. Oh well =D Azula turn good? You're going to have to work really hard into making that believable. X3 Yeah, I don't think it's gonna happen. Haha. I like her as an evil princess.
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Post by reyairia on Aug 19, 2007 11:01:14 GMT -5
Going through this all over again. When I was following IchiRuki, it being one of THE most popular Bleach ships meant that it got a lot of negative attack (obviously by non-IchiRuki people). Now with Zutara, when I popped over to the Kataang thread, same sort of sense is felt (well except for Zutara & Kataang fans). There is a Chinese saying that "Greatest popularity can even make the heavens jealous". Wonder if that's so. *sigh* Can't people be happy and just have fun. Popularity is why people seem to hate Zutara a lot. I think I know where the bashers come from, actually... I'm into the Ino/Chouji ship in NARUTO, and it's subtely hinted at and quite foreshadowed, it has a lot of deepness behind it and it's an opposite-attract ship; Ino is obsessed with being skinny and pretty while Chouji is on the heavy side and lovs to eat. I kind of went into the fandom expecting it to be quite popular, only to see that nobody would ever see it coming, everybody considered it crack for some unfathomable reason and thought that SaiIno or ShikaIno were going to become canon. When I mentioned that InoCho was really foreshadowed I was responded with "But Chouji only thins to eat!" Needless to say I was steeming ticked, I blamed it all on the fact that Chouji wasn't skinny and people were so shallow minded that they forgot that there's more to Chouji than eating (as explained from quite a deep scene, involving Chouji being made fun of because people thought only that btw), and that because Chouji wasn't in their definition of a bishie or some s*** like that they didn't pair him up with Ino. And you know? I still blame it on that. And you know what else? I grew to hate both of those ships. I guess Kataangers probably took it the same way I did; they thought kataang was such an awesome deep ship in the show and it was going to be canon only to get on and see that zutara was more popular, they probably also blamed it on how Aang didn't fit people's definition of a bishonen and therefore people shipped Katara with Zuko instead who did and grew to hate zutara like that. I'm pretty sure I'm right, since I've seen people describe zutara as a "crack pairing created because Katara and Zuko are the best looking characters in the show." ... And that's why there's a lot of zutara hate. XD
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aurelia
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Post by aurelia on Aug 19, 2007 11:06:07 GMT -5
Going through this all over again. When I was following IchiRuki, it being one of THE most popular Bleach ships meant that it got a lot of negative attack (obviously by non-IchiRuki people). Now with Zutara, when I popped over to the Kataang thread, same sort of sense is felt (well except for Zutara & Kataang fans). There is a Chinese saying that "Greatest popularity can even make the heavens jealous". Wonder if that's so. *sigh* Can't people be happy and just have fun. Popularity is why people seem to hate Zutara a lot. I think I know where the bashers come from, actually... I'm into the Ino/Chouji ship in NARUTO, and it's subtely hinted at and quite foreshadowed, it has a lot of deepness behind it and it's an opposite-attract ship; Ino is obsessed with being skinny and pretty while Chouji is on the heavy side and lovs to eat. I kind of went into the fandom expecting it to be quite popular, only to see that nobody would ever see it coming, everybody considered it crack for some unfathamable reason and thought that SaiIno or ShikaIno were going to become canon. When I mentioned that InoCho was really foreshadowed I was responded with "But Chouji only thins to eat!" Needless to say I was steeming ticked, I blamed it all on the fact that Chouji wasn't skinny and people were so shallow minded that they forgot that there's more to Chouji than eating (as explained from quite a deep scene, involving Chouji being made fun of because people thought only that btw), and that because Chouji wasn't in their definition of a bishie or some s*** like that they didn't pair him up with Ino. And you know? I still blame it on that. And you know what else? I grew to hate both of those ships. I guess Kataangers probably took it the same way I did; they thought kataang was such an awesome deep ship in the show and it was going to be canon only to get on and see that zutara was more popular, they probably also blamed it on how Aang didn't fit people's definition of a bishonen and therefore people shipped Katara with Zuko instead who did and grew to hate zutara like that. I'm pretty sure I'm right, since I've seen people bash zutara because they think the only reason it exists is cause Zuko and Katara are both the most good looking characters. /end rant. XD Some people are crazy. XD I actually don't find Kataang a deep ship worth happening but that's just my opinion. And I see where you're going with that, but as I just said, some people are crazy. =) And Zuko isn't amazingly good looking. And what about Toph or Sokka? They're good looking but ships with them involved aren't bashed usually.
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reyairia
Haru
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Post by reyairia on Aug 19, 2007 11:13:06 GMT -5
Some people are crazy. XD I actually don't find Kataang a deep ship worth happening but that's just my opinion. And I see where you're going with that, but as I just said, some people are crazy. =) And Zuko isn't amazingly good looking. And what about Toph or Sokka? They're good looking but ships with them involved aren't bashed usually. Does that include me? XD Thing is, it may all be happening in their subconscious too and they aren't aware of why they hate zutara, cause a lot of the times when you ask someone why they hate our ship they don't know what to say or say something stupid. I don't either, but I'm just putting it in their point of view. Zuko is older and angsty, and that is enough for him to be a popular character to be paired up with the main female. He could be a short-Equus asinus *coughsigcough* and zutara would still be around. Sokka pairings are about the only things Zutara fans and Kataang ones can more or less agree on, and Toph pairings aren't very popular.
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Post by Amira on Aug 19, 2007 11:32:37 GMT -5
Well my own reasons for disliking Zutara have nothing to do with looks, but more with my own personal opinions about what I find appealing and not appealing and what I read into the various ships.
That being said: I want everyone off of this current anti-ship this/anti-ship that discussions. Comprende.
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Post by LiveInThaskyE on Aug 19, 2007 12:35:01 GMT -5
Anyways,like Amira basically said,we need a new topic. Must not let our emotions get the better of us,on both sides.
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Post by luthien on Aug 19, 2007 12:51:01 GMT -5
Hrm, ok... let's see... ok, how about we discuss what we like about the potential of a Zuko and Katara relationship (no comparisons to other ships, this is strictly about Zuko and Katara and their interactions). How do you think they would become friends? What do you think each of them would like about the other? What would be the nature of their relationship (angsty romance, humor, witty banter?)? I'll post my answers sometime later... right now my mind is to fried from work to come up with anything coherent.
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Post by reyairia on Aug 19, 2007 12:57:57 GMT -5
Anyway, about my friend's doujinshi; she has the idea of having Zuko as firelord traveling to the Water tribes and the Earth Kingdom to make amends along with the gaang. Any idea of how to put them in a few romantic situations? :3
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Post by =Dr. Flabortast= on Aug 19, 2007 13:42:07 GMT -5
I don't like angsty romance. I really see a LeixHan(Star Wars) witty banter and humurous... And I actually want Sokka to warm up to Zuko 1st then: Zuko: "Katara you're overreacting" Katara: "ME!!?! OVERREACTING!!?!" Sokka: "He's preeeety spot on"
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Post by reyairia on Aug 19, 2007 13:54:24 GMT -5
I don't like angsty romance. I really see a LeixHan(Star Wars) witty banter and humurous... And I actually want Sokka to warm up to Zuko 1st then: Zuko: "Katara you're overreacting" Katara: "ME!!?! OVERREACTING!!?!" Sokka: "He's preeeety spot on" As I've always said, if it doesn't have humor, the ship sucks. XD
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Post by aurelia on Aug 19, 2007 17:39:41 GMT -5
I don't like angsty romance. I really see a LeixHan(Star Wars) witty banter and humurous... And I actually want Sokka to warm up to Zuko 1st then: Zuko: "Katara you're overreacting" Katara: "ME!!?! OVERREACTING!!?!" Sokka: "He's preeeety spot on" As I've always said, if it doesn't have humor, the ship sucks. XD Haha, that's very true.
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Post by Kunoichi24 on Aug 19, 2007 18:09:30 GMT -5
Hrm, ok... let's see... ok, how about we discuss what we like about the potential of a Zuko and Katara relationship (no comparisons to other ships, this is strictly about Zuko and Katara and their interactions). How do you think they would become friends? What do you think each of them would like about the other? What would be the nature of their relationship (angsty romance, humor, witty banter?)? I'll post my answers sometime later... right now my mind is to fried from work to come up with anything coherent. Oh, if they become an angsty romance couple, I"ll puke. Or throw something. Whichever comes first. XD Anyways, I think that they will have some humor, mostly witty banter. Something really amusing. And I think that both of their strengths in fighting is what they will like about each other. but, I"m not sure how they will become friends (or maybe more?).
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Post by LiveInThaskyE on Aug 19, 2007 18:35:13 GMT -5
I agree with Prime Directive,would like their relationship to be similar to LeixHan's from Star Wars. That would be interesting and funny to see.
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