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Post by Amira on Mar 11, 2007 19:45:16 GMT -5
This one come courtesy of Yiceman:
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Mai and Ty Lee have so far been filling the roles as villains, tagging along with Azula. Yet, as characters, niether appear particularly menacing on their own. Do they follow Azula out of fear, or boredom, or do they actually enjoy what they do? Are they mere thugs, or will they grow to play a bigger part?
Among these possible roles they could play, there is of course the romantic aspect. It is fairly obvious that Ty Lee likes Sokka and Mai has a thing for Zuko, so will these amount to anything what with Sokka's possibly dead girlfriend and Zuko's unending angst?
Will they be redeemed, join the good guys or at least leave Azula, and broaden their personality range? Because as of right now, they appear to be extreme opposites of each other. Will Mai smile for once, while Ty Lee puts on a serious face?
Are they capable of being in a relationship, and if so, who with?
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Post by =Dr. Flabortast= on Mar 11, 2007 20:03:57 GMT -5
I personally think both will be redeemed but both will also take different paths. This is what I see: Zuko while with Azula garners trust and respect from Azula's cohorts because of Zuko's innate caring nature. People will slowly swoon over Zuko's less fearful personality and less lethal approach to things. I can see Zuko practically gaining the trust of the Dai Lee because unlike his sister he doesnot rule by fear. What I can see is Zuko bringing a change about Mai. It doesn't really have to be romantic but Mai will come to a realization and be the first to side with Zuko and she'd make the perfect bodyguard for Zuko in the end of the series. Ty Lee though she may seem the nicer of the two seems to be the one who is more fearful of Azula. I can see Ty Lee staying with Azula because of her sheer fear of her and being somewhat naive would feel an obligation to stay with Azula. Zuko may not have had planned anything but I have a feeling that he will be a catalyst in to forming a division of loyalty within Dangerous Ladies/Dai Li. I can very well see Mai rekindling her old flames without Zuko noticing it and I believe Zuko's personality and mindset will be crucial to the division of loyalties. I can see them planning something where Zuko gives his views and ideas and everybody prefers his because it is less messy and hass less casualties then Azula's plan.
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Post by daydream11 on Mar 12, 2007 17:41:32 GMT -5
To start off on the basics... I don't see them as villians, nor do I see Mai and Ty Lee as mere little Mickey Mouse figurines in Azula's twisted Disney-themed Monopoly game. Granted, I'm more apt to see and believe that she manipulates Ty Lee, but Ty Lee knows what she does. It's not like she's completely oblivious and naive about it; she chose to go with her. Mai has her own way of thinking and is the more independent of the two; I think she follows Azula for her own amusement and out of duty. Neither are thugs. They have too much going for them to be thugs; one just doesn't get that vibe from their characters. Ty Lee, I feel, has this "I'll just do what she tells me to do so I can get off easy" mentality I think plays a large role in her actions (other than them being ordered by Azula). Mai is more of the "Yeah, whatever; I'll just go because nothing fun is going around here"-type thinking, so she does, but unlike Ty Lee she draws the line somewhere (as shown in The Drill when she wouldn't go down that drain). Mai is also more independent and a more detached thinker, as Ty Lee is more dependent on Azula. Romance. Ah...yes. The kids on Gaia Online go insane over Maiko and Zutara, oh my. My own thought of Maiko is in these next few sentences I wrote in one particular thread on that website: Maiko is the Zuko ship that has the best chance at becoming canon. She's there with Azula just as he is; it'd be stupid for them not to even interact. Maybe they won't get together, per say, but I'm betting five dollars that they'll forge some kind of friendship....Have you ever thought about Mai's side of the story? We only know that she had a crush on Zuko when they were little. That's all. It doesn't mean anything, or it could mean the world. We'll just have to wait and see. Maybe Mai will be good for him. She knows Azula and maybe she can knock some sense into him. She has hidden secrets, maybe more than we can possible imagine. Ty Lee and Sokka... that seems like just a fun crush to me, on her side. I can't see it going anywhere, not really. Maybe a sorta-date and a light kiss, but nothing truly serious (partially because of the fact that although Ty Lee does have a dark side, I have a hard time imagining it and usually label it OOC if it comes up in a fanfic). The only real impact I see in that relationship would be Ty Lee loosening Sokka up a bit and teaching him to not be so pessimistic. Moving along, the "Mai and Ty Lee Will Leave Azula to Join the Good Side" is kind of sketchy to me. If Mai ever leaves, I highly doubt it'd be because she wants to be apart of the Good Side. If anything, she'd leave because Azula isn't satisfying her *kinda hidden* thirst for adventure and excitement. Ty Lee I feel is more likely to leave her because of ill treatment than to join the Good Side. I bet that neither of the two would help to bring her down, but neither would support her if they left. They'd be on the sidelines watching. Mai does smile. It's not a blinding Aang-Ty Lee-Happy Meal smile, but it's a small, secretive one that has a lot of mystery to it. That's what Mai is- not boring, not gray-and-black, but myserious. She's the kind of girl that would drive the high school teachers crazy because they have no idea what's going inside of her mind and can only take a guess. I'm positive she'll only show that more open side of her with someone who really connects with her, something Azula and Ty Lee haven't been able to do. Her personality is inside where nobody bothers and/or is willing to look. One has to find it, and most people don't have any patience or will power to embark on a mission as difficult as that one can be. Ty Lee is the one who we've seen personality tidbits of, but have chosen to largely ignore or count them off as nothing because "She Only Does That Because She Has To/Because Azula Makes Her". Correction: She only does that because that's how she reacts to situations of the sort. It's nothing really too difficult to understand: A scared, eager-to-please youngster reacts as a scared, eager-to-please youngster does: she bends and fixes herself into whatever category or situation whatever person has placed and/or forced her in. Easy, no? Relationships. I can't really give an opinion on if they are ready for a relationship, because I haven't seen that side of them yet. Ty Lee acts like a typical boy-crazy teenage girl; you can't really base anything off of that. Mai is standoff-ish; you can't base anything off of that, either. It's osmething we'll have to wait and see about. And done.
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Post by Zink on Mar 17, 2007 16:28:23 GMT -5
Ty Lee seemed to be relatively serious about her circus job, so I think she has the ability to commit- if she's going to broaden her range of personality, I think going after Sokka would be the the way she'd do it. However, seeing how giggly she is about the whole crush, I don't see it blooming into some kinda deep love without the two getting to know each other better.
I think part of the reason Mai and Ty Lee go along with Azula is because they've been doing it all their lives. As we saw in Zuko Alone, Azula's been maniupulating them since childhood. I do think they could rebel if they had a real reason to, but it's just engrained into them to do as she says.
Maiko... I'm starting to think Mai and Zuko are actually too alike to work as a long-term couple. Zuko's a loudly angsty guy with a heart of gold, Mai's quietly angsty girl whom I think to have a heart of gold. It'd definitely be a different relationship dynamic then any other ship in Avatar. I'm picturing them more as the soulmate, best friend, two-halves-of-the-same-whole type if they do get together.
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Post by daydream11 on Mar 18, 2007 20:27:33 GMT -5
Ty Lee seemed to be relatively serious about her circus job, so I think she has the ability to commit- if she's going to broaden her range of personality, I think going after Sokka would be the the way she'd do it. However, seeing how giggly she is about the whole crush, I don't see it blooming into some kinda deep love without the two getting to know each other better. I dunno...I mean, I could go either way on the Ty Lee-Sokka relationship; I quite don't care, although that'd be one cheesy relationship in my opinion. Ty Lee, I feel, needs to broaden her personality by getting out more. Sure, that could be Sokka (why not?), but he prefers to stay in one place (while pregressing into a higher position I guess one could call it, like becoming an intern in government only to become the mayor and whatnot). Ty Lee does, too, but she's more willing to break free of it, if only to bury herself in yet another rut. Should I say rut? Doesn't sound quite right, but I'm sure you get my jest. I hope that made sense... Too true... Angst, according to dictionary.com, is the feeling of dread, anxiety, or/and anxiety. Mai is apathetic rather than agnst. She just doesn't care about the most mediocre and trivial of things. Zuko, is kind of the opposite: the smallest things make him upset and sets him off on a semi-tangent, like his date with Jin. She'd calm him down a tad, hopefully, if anything. He'd help her to see the excitement in smaller matters (somewhat, in his own Zuko way).
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Post by Werewolf Cookie on Mar 21, 2007 1:51:29 GMT -5
I had this theory a while back that Zuko would betray Azula or find out that she plans to betray him, would rescue Iroh and then would try to leave. Mai would go with him, because by this time they have bonded. Ty Lee would be hesitant but would eventually go with them. And then they'd have their own little gang! Which could join the Gaang later on!
That ain't gonna happen, but I can dream.
I think that Ty Lee fears, respects, admires and even likes Azula. Maybe she knows that the things she does are wrong, but I think she trusts that if Azula tells her to do something it must be okay. I think that there's some real friendship there, even if it is a little one-sided.
Mai, on the other hand, I think goes along with Azula because it's convenient for her, and because she really is just bored. She doesn't really respect or fear Azula; she knows Azula doesn't really like her, and she returns the favour.
I could definitely see Maiko happening. There are so many reasons why it could work. Zuko is changing, and hopefully becoming a better person; Mai wouldn't try to change him, she'd let him do that by himself. Zuko is passionate and easily upset or frustrated; Mai is calm and collected. She wouldn't tell him to stop whining, or try to make him feel better. She'd listen, she'd stay calm, she'd be there for him. Zuko is soft-hearted, deep down, and when he becomes Fire Lord he'll struggle with putting the Fire Nation above individuals (his reaction in the war room is a good example of this). If Mai becomes Fire Lady, she's calm, level-headed and more cool and calculating than he is, and would provide a good balance. Mai is always bored, but she really wants adventure - that's why she went with Azula. Zuko could give her that. I'm hoping Maiko is gonna happen, since it would just be so GOOD.
I see Ty Lokka as fairly likely, but not in a deep, meaningful love kind of way. More in a cute not-so-serious crush way. Maybe a kiss, probably a lot of blushing, but nothing serious. I don't think it really adds anything to the story or either character, personally, and I don't really care if it happens or not.
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Post by Waterbender Kimiko on Mar 30, 2007 15:38:04 GMT -5
I think that Ty Lee will end up with Sokka in the end. And Mai willend up with Zuko. If Sokka winds up with Suki, I'll be happy to.
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