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Post by lunauc on Mar 28, 2007 14:19:43 GMT -5
@daydream: I never realized the possibility of that message being the other way around until it was pointed out over in ASN. It would make sense since Guru Pathik said "The Air Nomads love for you..." instead of "The love you felt for the Air Nomads...". So... Katara is the only person in the world who loves him? I guess that makes sense. He is kind of a bratty lil runt.
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Post by daydream11 on Mar 28, 2007 14:21:10 GMT -5
@daydream: I never realized the possibility of that message being the other way around until it was pointed out over in ASN. It would make sense since Guru Pathik said "The Air Nomads love for you..." instead of "The love you felt for the Air Nomads...". So... Katara is the only person in the world who loves him? I guess that makes sense. He is kind of a bratty lil runt. Not saying that, Mr. Lunauc. We're saying that the kind of love Katara has for Aang, her individual love, is the Air Nomad's reborn. Everybody else's is simply ordinary.
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Post by Melis on Mar 28, 2007 14:23:56 GMT -5
Exactly, that's what I meant. Katara isn't the only person who loves him, but the love she feels for him (or the love between the two) is similar to that of the love the Air Nomads felt for Aang. That's a lot of love right there!
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Post by lunauc on Mar 28, 2007 14:26:30 GMT -5
So.. you guys believe the air nomads had romantic feelings for Aang? My god! They're worse than Catholic priests! No wonder the Fire nation wiped them out. Good riddance! Mod note: Was this an attempt at sarcasm?EDIT: More like a oddball joke really.. but it is leading somewhere.
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Post by daydream11 on Mar 28, 2007 14:28:08 GMT -5
So.. you guys believe the air nomads had romantic feelings for Aang? My god! There worse than Catholic priests! No wonder the Fire nation wiped them out. At least you're implying that Katara has romantic feelings for Aang.
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Post by lunauc on Mar 28, 2007 14:30:40 GMT -5
At least you're implying that Katara has romantic feelings for Aang. No.. actually you all keep implying she has romantic feelings. So, if the Air Nomads loved Aang the same way Katara does, you are implying that the air nomads had "intentions" for a 12 year old boy.
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Post by daydream11 on Mar 28, 2007 14:33:33 GMT -5
At least you're implying that Katara has romantic feelings for Aang. No.. actually you all keep implying she has romantic feelings. So, if the Air Nomads loved Aang the same way Katara does, you are implying that the air nomads had "intentions" for a 12 year old boy. Not necessarily- one or two of those girls could have had a crush on Aang. Love in a nation for one boy is extremely diverse.
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Post by Blind Bandit on Mar 28, 2007 14:41:45 GMT -5
lunauc I think your over analyzing that statement there. But thats just me.
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Post by lunauc on Mar 28, 2007 14:45:05 GMT -5
lunauc I think your over analyzing that statement there. But thats just me. Quite the contrrary, I'm taking it literally. Which makes it all the funnier.
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Post by daydream11 on Mar 28, 2007 14:47:48 GMT -5
lunauc I think your over analyzing that statement there. But thats just me. Quite the contrrary, I'm taking it literally. Which makes it all the funnier. Ahhh...you never cease to amaze me. Bandit, he actually is taking things literally for once, which puts me at an advantage because that's the way I think. XD
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Post by lunauc on Mar 28, 2007 15:03:47 GMT -5
All I'm saying is that the love vision can be taken one of three ways:
1- The relationship between Aang and Katara is the same as the relationship he had with the airbenders. In which case, either they have a more familial bond, or the air benders were child molesters. Probably not what you were aiming for.
2- He loves Katara as much as he loved every airbender he knew. So, either all of their love is only equivalent to the love of one girl, or Aang is so obsessed with her that he would trade all the air nomads evenly for her. And if he'd trade them evenly, how many people would he trade off that he didn't love?
3- It was all in his head. When the Guru mentioned love, Katara was who he saw, because she was the only person he wanted to see. It means nothing about Katara's feelings, only Aang's crush.
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Post by daydream11 on Mar 28, 2007 15:15:33 GMT -5
All I'm saying is that the love vision can be taken one of three ways: 1- The relationship between Aang and Katara is the same as the relationship he had with the airbenders. In which case, either they have a more familial bond, or the air benders were child molesters. Probably not what you were aiming for. 2- He loves Katara as much as he loved every airbender he knew. So, either all of their love is only equivalent to the love of one girl, or Aang is so obsessed with her that he would trade all the air nomads evenly for her. And if he'd trade them evenly, how many people would he trade off that he didn't love? 3- It was all in his head. When the Guru mentioned love, Katara was who he saw, because she was the only person he wanted to see. It means nothing about Katara's feelings, only Aang's crush. 1- Platonic love, I'll give you that one. Right now, for now, that's what their relationship is. 2- Huh? I'm a tad confuzzled about your explanation. See, I take it Guru's explanation the other way around- that Katara's love for Aang equeals that of the Air Nomads. It's not exactly right to say that for Aang, simply because he's the Avatar, so he already has- was basically born with- a natural, overflowing love for the entire world. He'll give up Katara in a heartbeat (well, maybe a few more than one) if it means that the world as a whole would be saved from the darkness. Yeah. 3- Or maybe, Katara was the only person he could see. he does love the girl, for all it's worth. He loves Sokka and Toph, too, but it doesn't match what he feels for Katara, and Katara alone. Love isn't all in someone's head. Hun, if it was all in his head it'd be lust, and lust doesn't last even half as long as love does. Plus, if it was clearly stated by whoever that the Air Nomad's love for him has been reborn into that one person (be it him or Katara, whatevs), it truly can't be in his head. Impossible.
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Post by lunauc on Mar 28, 2007 15:29:36 GMT -5
1- Platonic love, I'll give you that one. Right now, for now, that's what their relationship is. Woohoo! Victory! Huh? I have almost no idea what you just wrote. I wasn't saying anything about Aang having an in born love for the world. If anything it is guilt and the expectations of other which lead him to complete his quest, not so much love. Katara is the one he has latched onto as his source of comfort through it all, like a security blanket. So what I'm saying is, if he considers her a fair trade for all the air nomads, just how many lives that he has no attachment to will he be willing to trade her for? It was the Guru he said "That love is reborn in you... as New Love." Note though, Pathik does not say, "... New love for Katara." At this point, I don't even think he knew who Katara was. That image was in Aang's head. So, that would make it his fixation on her.
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Post by Lady Liesl on Mar 28, 2007 15:46:06 GMT -5
1- Platonic love, I'll give you that one. Right now, for now, that's what their relationship is. Woohoo! Victory! Huh? I have almost no idea what you just wrote. I wasn't saying anything about Aang having an in born love for the world. If anything it is guilt and the expectations of other which lead him to complete his quest, not so much love. Katara is the one he has latched onto as his source of comfort through it all, like a security blanket. So what I'm saying is, if he considers her a fair trade for all the air nomads, just how many lives that he has no attachment to will he be willing to trade her for? It was the Guru he said "That love is reborn in you... as New Love." Note though, Pathik does not say, "... New love for Katara." At this point, I don't even think he knew who Katara was. That image was in Aang's head. So, that would make it his fixation on her. I fail to see what your bantering is trying to convey.
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Post by daydream11 on Mar 28, 2007 15:58:04 GMT -5
Les, I think we're having some kind of debate, but I'm not completely sure. 1- Platonic love, I'll give you that one. Right now, for now, that's what their relationship is. Woohoo! Victory! Huh? I have almost no idea what you just wrote. I wasn't saying anything about Aang having an in born love for the world. If anything it is guilt and the expectations of other which lead him to complete his quest, not so much love. Katara is the one he has latched onto as his source of comfort through it all, like a security blanket. So what I'm saying is, if he considers her a fair trade for all the air nomads, just how many lives that he has no attachment to will he be willing to trade her for? It was the Guru he said "That love is reborn in you... as New Love." Note though, Pathik does not say, "... New love for Katara." At this point, I don't even think he knew who Katara was. That image was in Aang's head. So, that would make it his fixation on her. Guilt? Maybeh. Expectations? Definately. Not love? You're pushing it. Aang would try to help a person out even if he didn't have to; that's just how he was raised and it's his personality. It's motivated by that kind of friendship-love-common courtesy that everybody should possess. Of course, being the Avatar, dragging the world out of the 100-Year World is also driven by expectations and a tad dash of guilt for leaving them there in the first place (which, by now until you mentioned it, I didn't think guilt was really present anymore), but that's not the only reasons. Ya feel me? And the Guru didn't have to say 'for Katara' or whatever. It was clearly implied and and understood.
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