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Post by rocio on Nov 6, 2006 14:25:52 GMT -5
Hola, Tru!
Did you make the mapic that about Zuko and Katara like parents?
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Post by trustno1 on Nov 6, 2006 14:28:55 GMT -5
Hola, Tru! Did you make the mapic that about Zuko and Katara like parents? Don't have proper material yet. But as you see, I had enough to make Zuko wear glasses. ;D I'm off guys, cya
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Post by rocio on Nov 6, 2006 14:36:31 GMT -5
hahaha
I have some ideas................................
Give me........five minutes!
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Post by trustno1 on Nov 6, 2006 14:37:45 GMT -5
hahaha I have some ideas................................ Give me........five minutes! PM it to me, I really have to leave.
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Post by Amira on Nov 6, 2006 14:38:00 GMT -5
ROFL!!!! All of Season 2 was Zuko's development. There was very little development of other characters in comparison to Zuko.
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Post by trustno1 on Nov 6, 2006 14:40:15 GMT -5
ROFL!!!! All of Season 2 was Zuko's development. There was very little development of other characters in comparison to Zuko. Did you even read the thing you quoted? Now tell me, when had Zuko extraordinary much screentime except for the episode "Zuko Alone"?
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Post by Amira on Nov 6, 2006 14:41:42 GMT -5
I did read it, and I disagree. Don't use that tone.
Losing uncle, going to Ba Sing Se, finding the Avatar's bison, having to deal with Jet, dealing with Azula on a few occasions, attempting to learn firebending again, the Blue Spirit re-emerging and leading Zuko to stealing and becoming in essence an outlaw, Song and Zuko scenes, Zuko and Iroh's constant disucssions over several episodes, a good portion of Lake Laogai was Zuko. Major development, major screentime moments, all adding up to a bulk of season 2.
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Post by =Dr. Flabortast= on Nov 6, 2006 14:45:36 GMT -5
Can we Imagine the Gaang fighting a full fighting form Long Feng next episode? Shirtless and barefoot like the Boulder? hahaha I bet he's pretty built underneath those robes..
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Post by rocio on Nov 6, 2006 14:51:29 GMT -5
You can uso this ones: Well..I need more time But this two are good XD
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Post by trustno1 on Nov 6, 2006 14:53:08 GMT -5
201 The Avatar State/focused on Aang dealing with the Avatar state;Introduction of Azula and Zukos downfall 202 The Cave of Two Lovers/focused on Aangs crush; furthering Zukos downfall ~ done little to the actual story so I guess it was a filler 203 Return To Omashu/Focused on the retrieval of Bumi 204 The Swamp/Focused on the gAang in the swamp used as an introduction for Toph 205 Avatar Day/Focused on Aang ~ Filler if you ask me 206 The Blind Bandit/Focused on Aang and Toph 207 Zuko Alone/Focused on Zuko 208 The Chase/Focused on Azula chasing the gAang and first problems with Tophs behavior; Zuko comes up at the very last minutes of the episode and gets his uncle shot 209 Bitter Work/Focused on Aangs and Zukos training 210 The Library/Focused on getting information about the solar eclipse 211 The Desert/Focused on Aangs anger 212 The Serpent's Pass/Focused on Aangs reaction on his behavior from "the Desert" 213 The Drill/Focused on the FN attack on BSS 214 City of Walls and Secrets/Focused on BSS society 215 The Tales of Ba Sing Se/more or less a filler 216 Appa's Lost Days/Focus on Appa and his connection to Aang 217 Lake Laogai/Focus Jets return and Zuko thinking about his mission for the first time
Call me an overprotective Zukofan, but everyone, who wants to make me believe that Zuko was hogging screentime or development during this season, is a biased basher in my opinion.
Just like I said Zuko gets little screentime normally, but what actually happens to him is in most cases drastic and furthers his development a great deal. He isn't the main character, but he has to go long way to develop and the creators are doing so, by making him a begger, thief, almost losing his uncle and eventually having a major illness. It is much dvelopment, but concentrated into small portions.
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Post by azaki on Nov 6, 2006 14:54:18 GMT -5
I did read it, and I disagree. Don't use that tone. Losing uncle, going to Ba Sing Se, finding the Avatar's bison, having to deal with Jet, dealing with Azula on a few occasions, attempting to learn firebending again, the Blue Spirit re-emerging and leading Zuko to stealing and becoming in essence an outlaw, Song and Zuko scenes, Zuko and Iroh's constant disucssions over several episodes, a good portion of Lake Laogai was Zuko. Major development, major screentime moments, all adding up to a bulk of season 2. Kind of have to agree w/ you on this one. Zuko has developed quite a bit in this season really if you watch the first appearance of him to what we see of him now he has come far from his selfish arogance to a more understanding/adult arogance. Its really how he acts tword his uncle and the people close to him that has changed too. I mean he still yells at his uncle but not so much in a child like fashion as in book 1. yes? ;D
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Post by trustno1 on Nov 6, 2006 14:56:51 GMT -5
You can uso this ones: Well..I need more time But this two are good XD I tried to use the Katara thing once, but the blue shimmer on her skin makes it pretty hard to manip her anywhere. But, I have to admit, these would be my choices too. I have to go gn8 guys
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Post by Amira on Nov 6, 2006 15:00:17 GMT -5
And if you add up all of the Zuko moments in those episodes it does lead to a bulk of Seasoned 2. And I fail to see how wishing more time was focused on other characters and other aspects of the story other than Zuko makes anyone a biased basher. Please. If you don't like or enjoy Zuko, all of the repeated back and forth with his character is going to get tiresome. Even some Zuko fans have said that.
I think Aang has been horribly underrated and overlooked by many people in this fandom, but they have their opinions. I'm not going to label them as "biased bashers." Take Lake Laogai, he had awesome bending prowess with Toph, challenged Joo Dee and Long Feng, showed real jealousy over Katara, forgave Jet, got Appa back, and what did the focus and a bulk of the discussion go to: Zuko and his growth in character and his hair.
There is no denying that the majority of season 2 was zuko's both in meaningful screentime and in development. And if that make me a "biased basher" so be it.
Zuko had the most development over season 2. He had the most thought-provoking moments over Season 2. And season 2 was in many ways more focused on him and his journey than on the Gaang (I sort of felt the Appa thing was a bit contrived).
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Post by stinkypinky on Nov 6, 2006 15:00:48 GMT -5
Intersting convo guys, I'll add something about this later. But, I've done 2 seconds of my animation of Aang I'm trying to make it as smooth as possible, but ehh, let me know what you think I'm sorry to be off topic and straying off this debate, I will get to it, but umm, who should I put behind Aang, should I put Roku or Appa?
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Post by rocio on Nov 6, 2006 15:02:58 GMT -5
ROFL!!!! All of Season 2 was Zuko's development. There was very little development of other characters in comparison to Zuko. Well......The problem with ATLA It is that its a serie, which means, that the episodes are independent, but continuing with the thread of the story. What it happens, it is that in this second season, apparently, the creators have constructed (wanted or not) two heroes; and apparently, Zuko has robbed too much space. His information were much more important than the others................ He centered this season...... That is not something bad...Is very normal. So the creators used this second season; in order to develop Zuko; a dark and mysterious personage. Whereas Aang did not happen for which we had not seen before of him; its Avatar state and his crushes and its love by its friends (Appa and all of that).
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