Koshou
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Post by Koshou on Mar 24, 2006 23:43:55 GMT -5
Cool, we're underdogs.
The underdogs always win in the movies. So there. =P
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Post by cami on Mar 24, 2006 23:48:00 GMT -5
Question: Is Zutara the underdog because of the introduction of Song, the Kataang progression, or defection of some Zutarians to the ZukoxSong ship?
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Hatsumomo
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Post by Hatsumomo on Mar 24, 2006 23:50:22 GMT -5
Question: Is Zutara the underdog because of the introduction of Song, the Kataang progression, or defection of some Zutarians to the ZukoxSong ship? I think cuz the entire episode was a heavy blow... This war is not over!
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storybookgirl
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Post by storybookgirl on Mar 25, 2006 0:20:55 GMT -5
This episode was not a heavy blow for me! AT ALL! It's actually almost completly going along with my plans for Zutara! I loved this episode! I think it is one of my new favorites!
Song just opened Zuko up a bit. Tenderized him. Like a mother helps cut a peice of meat for her child to chew and eat (coughKataracough).
Yes, the Kataang moments were very cute, but I didn't mind them. The only thing that upset me in the episode was when Zuko stole Song's pet.
I do not think Song will return and I feel that she will probably never know who the mysterious scarred man was who entered her life for that very breif amount of time.
I still have faith in Zutara. In fact, this episode has only strengthened my beleif that it will occur!
However, if the Kataangs do win... well, let's just say I won't DIE!
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Yang Fishy
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Post by Yang Fishy on Mar 25, 2006 0:44:42 GMT -5
@cami: Yeah Hatsumomo is right! The entire episode as I mentioned earlier played favoritism and was biased towards the other ships since it was mainly focus on kataang. There was only one connection that was made in the entire episode and that was that 'the lovers were torn apart by the war that their nations were in' but this of course can be reffered back to any two nations shippings, not just Zutara.
@everyone: I took notice that HaruxKatara is similar to ZukoxSong! Both DO have a connection but in the end these main-characters have bigger roles to play and are on a mision, which they can't get distracted on, so instead they both take their leave and leave those who cared about them guessing as to where they are...
If i remember correctly when Song tried to get close to Zuko's 'personal space' by making an intention of placing her hand on his shoulder. Zuko pushed it away. This lead me to beleive that he doesn't want sympathy, pity, another ally or whatever it may be...since fighting has made him strong, its made him who he is now. ..not hope
...Zuko falling in love with a person he's just met? Sounds OOC, since this firebender doesn't trust anyone, unless these two cross paths again...I only see her as I mentioned before as a great example, a teacher, and lesson to burst the selfish character that Zuko's had for 16 years...not a romantic influence ;D
(sorry i dont mean to offend anyone if they do have hopes for thsi couple, it my opinion only!)
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storybookgirl
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Post by storybookgirl on Mar 25, 2006 2:35:31 GMT -5
^ I agree completely!
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Post by firexphantom on Mar 25, 2006 2:54:35 GMT -5
w00t underdogs!!!I thought the actual "Cave of Two lovers" story was actually a forshadowing
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Post by Revitalize Book on Mar 25, 2006 3:13:59 GMT -5
@cami: Yeah Hatsumomo is right! The entire episode as I mentioned earlier played favoritism and was biased towards the other ships since it was mainly focus on kataang. There was only one connection that was made in the entire episode and that was that 'the lovers were torn apart by the war that their nations were in' but this of course can be reffered back to any two nations shippings, not just Zutara. @everyone: I took notice that HaruxKatara is similar to ZukoxSong! Both DO have a connection but in the end these main-characters have bigger roles to play and are on a mision, which they can't get distracted on, so instead they both take their leave and leave those who cared about them guessing as to where they are... If i remember correctly when Song tried to get close to Zuko's 'personal space' by making an intention of placing her hand on his shoulder. Zuko pushed it away. This lead me to beleive that he doesn't want sympathy, pity, another ally or whatever it may be...since fighting has made him strong, its made him who he is now. ..not hope ...Zuko falling in love with a person he's just met? Sounds OOC, since this firebender doesn't trust anyone, unless these two cross paths again...I only see her as I mentioned before as a great example, a teacher, and lesson to burst the selfish character that Zuko's had for 16 years...not a romantic influence ;D (sorry i dont mean to offend anyone if they do have hopes for thsi couple, it my opinion only!) But Zuko hasn't really 'fallen' for anyone yet- so it would be out of character for him period, right?
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Yang Fishy
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Post by Yang Fishy on Mar 25, 2006 3:47:31 GMT -5
@bumianxiousairbendinglove: ;D Yes you're canonly right but fanonly wrong ;D, because there are Zutarians, like me, out here who believe evidence has been shown already that Zuko may think a little more about the waterbender than he gives off. Like here: That's the scene where Jun, tells him "what your girlfriend run off on you?" And Zuko defends himself by saying: "It not the girl I'm after. It's the bald monk who she's traveling with" YET at the same time brings the neckalace back up to his chest in a defensive manner!! (evidence!)Koshou+ Kuniki: Yup The underdogs are always the victors in the end and there the ones people naturally tend to vote for! YAY! we have hope ;D
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Post by Seraphium on Mar 25, 2006 4:03:38 GMT -5
I don't think Zutara is over. Song only got to do what us Zutarian's wanted Katara to do because she had a chance to actually sit down and talk to him while Katara has been too busy ---> grr-evil-bad-Prince-Zuko-must-protect-Aang/run-away-grr-hiss-bark-woof-moo. I like the new Zutara quote btw *claps* Zuko looks as if he's saying "No, my necklace! MINE! hiss~" >_>
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Yang Fishy
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Post by Yang Fishy on Mar 25, 2006 10:49:23 GMT -5
seraphium: You don't have an account fellow Zutarian? You must get one! I would've given you Karma for that ;D so go and get one already! When we look at this from outside the box, Katara has never been given a chance to sit down with Zuko and talk about how both have been scarred because Katara and Zuko have both only met in a protagonistxantagonist sense to actually sympathize with each other; BUT since Zuko is slowly shifting sides from 'selfish and considered spoiled' to 'an indirect ally' and 'enemy of the firenation' ...We'll see what happens once they colide again! Let's just wait. Thanks...the quote just popped into my head when I realized Zutara was pushed out of the way recently and you know how much Zuko has had to fight to become the person who he is now...well we Zutarians had never had it easy either. It's always been a challenge. In a lot of ways our ship can compare to his character ;D
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MsJimmy
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Post by MsJimmy on Mar 25, 2006 11:09:37 GMT -5
^True, I bet things would be different if they meant in different circumstances. I hope they run into each other soon. I want to hear Zuko's sexy voice he uses with Katara again
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gambitia
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Post by gambitia on Mar 25, 2006 11:33:35 GMT -5
^True, I bet things would be different if they meant in different circumstances. I hope they run into each other soon. I want to hear Zuko's sexy voice he uses with Katara again You mean the voice he used to say "Well, aren't you a big girl now?" The "You're so far beneath me it's kind of pathetic" voice? That one? He being condescending. Condescencion =/= love, no matter you want to think. But I've come to the conclusion that Katara could be giving birth to Aang's babies and some of the Zutarains would still be claiming Zutara would win in the end.
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Yang Fishy
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Post by Yang Fishy on Mar 25, 2006 11:47:31 GMT -5
gambitia: LOL! You made me almost choke on the water I was drinking while reading this post I can see it now: Avatar on Maury!Maury: Well we have taken a paternity test on Prince Zuko and Avatar Aang to see whose really the father of this child prodigy and end all fued between these two ships. Katara:The baby looks just like Aang, HE'S BALD! it's gotta be Aang! Maury: Well let's find out... With the results we have determined that Anng:... you are NOT the father! (Zutarians in the audience): "We told you!" (Kataangs): "We want another test!" Katara: runs off and doesn't beleive it still. Zuko: Let me see that (0.o)...Oh now I remember Aang has triggered the Avatar state and...were all doomed! ;D The End! .......................................................................... I don't think the sexy voice Zuko uses on Katara meant that 'she was obviously below him in skill.' He was teasing her, he wanted to provoke her and challenge her to determine her skills. I mean fighing has made him who he is now, not fighting for the Avatar would have been too easy for him and would have gone against his quote, his character.
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MsJimmy
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Post by MsJimmy on Mar 25, 2006 12:29:12 GMT -5
No, the sexy voice he used in The Waterbending Scroll. Like when he said "I'll save you from the pirates" or when he was trying to bribe her with the necklace. Yes, I know, trying to bribe her is not sexy. But the voice he used was sexy
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