gambitia
Fiery Ozai
millions have trembled before my pink armor!
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Post by gambitia on Apr 3, 2006 21:59:01 GMT -5
I don't think we do! @_@ Yipes- and I have to go soon! Does anyone know who our ambassadors our? Anyone? The organization of the Soko room amazes me. ;D Aw, I love my ship. We've been taking cues from the hippies, I see. ;D Hint hint: define what a powerful bender is, then decided if Zuko fits the definition
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Post by Revitalize Book on Apr 3, 2006 21:59:59 GMT -5
ACK. >.< I have to leave real soon though; I don't think I could come up with something worthy of Soko in a short time! Any other Sokoites out there? Somebody?
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeelp! XD Thy shipping cannot diiiiiie;_;
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gambitia
Fiery Ozai
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Post by gambitia on Apr 3, 2006 22:01:55 GMT -5
The other two Soko shippers who are always on are me and Babbs I believe...and we're both on the court, so we can't theorize.
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Post by Revitalize Book on Apr 3, 2006 22:04:07 GMT -5
Darn.
We are stuck. >.<
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gambitia
Fiery Ozai
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Post by gambitia on Apr 3, 2006 22:04:43 GMT -5
THINK!! THINK!!! I want to help but can't.
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Post by Revitalize Book on Apr 3, 2006 22:05:16 GMT -5
I think the date may be extended...*Phew!*
>.> <.< Are we safe for now? XD
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gambitia
Fiery Ozai
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Post by gambitia on Apr 3, 2006 22:07:29 GMT -5
I think the date may be extended...*Phew!* >.> <.< Are we safe for now? XD Maybe. I haven't heard of the extension yet. Is almighty on? She's sort of a Soko shipper.
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babbs
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Post by babbs on Apr 3, 2006 22:14:55 GMT -5
Extension is 12:00am Wednesday.
Almighty is already theorizing for the Kataangs... I don't think she'll have time to theorize for Soko. ^^''
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Post by almighty on Apr 3, 2006 22:17:14 GMT -5
I'm a soko fan too. But if I think up a response, it'll probably be exactly the same as the Kataang response. XD
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gambitia
Fiery Ozai
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Post by gambitia on Apr 3, 2006 22:19:47 GMT -5
^Dang. I think the Soko theorizers are all on the court.
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babbs
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Post by babbs on Apr 3, 2006 22:21:21 GMT -5
Yep. And we can't really blame Sokoites anyway... Soko is still a nascent ship. xD And some people are probably just waiting for another Song reappearance to fully jump ship, if you know what I mean. ;D
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storybookgirl
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Post by storybookgirl on Apr 4, 2006 1:04:51 GMT -5
The trouble with the court and Soko and the argument over on the Zutara War Room thread is that many shippers ship Kataang and Soko or Zutara and Soko. So coming up with arguments for the court and participants in coming up with one is hard. I wish you guys luck!!!
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Post by Confettie on Apr 4, 2006 1:34:45 GMT -5
I'm going to rant and bring some points in you guys can make what you want of it. I love Soka so I'm involve for that reason alone.
Zuko is a powerful bender in my opinion is a badly written question with tons of loop holes. I will exploit one with my next answer. I personally think a "powerful person" needs to be well in doubt with their skill, their body, and their mind. Is Zuko well in doubt in all three. The first two can be argue, I guess, but the last one isn't. Zuko isn't there yet in the mind. He still believe that his father loves him and has yet to realize that the whole capturing the Avatar is a bad joke. He doesn't realize what the Fire Nation is doing to the other Kingdom. He call other people from other nations peasants. He believe his sisters lie that his father wants him back. He stole Song horse. He risk his life trying to capture the Avatar during the siege of the North. Did her care that by capturing the Avatar would ruin the balance of the world. No, leading to the conclusion that he still immature.
Hope that rant got you guys thinking.
It got me, heres one ----> Those who are well in doubt in a skill can spot potentials in others who can be just as good at that skill. Ozai is a master firebender he has to be, or how else would he sill be the Fire Lord. Being that he is a master firebender he would be able to spot talent with his children. If Ozai knew that Zuko would become just as powerful as him why would he scar Zuko like that and then kick him out of the Nation. Its not politically smart, Zuko could come back and beat his father sense he going to be that "powerful". The firenation would except him, because he is part of the family, as fire lord. Instead Ozai kick Zuko out because he has nothing to fear and kept Azula close because she's the powerful one.
feel free to add or comment.
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daydream11
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Post by daydream11 on Apr 4, 2006 7:40:43 GMT -5
Yes, I agree, Zuko seems to be rather immature when it comes to his mind, but I can't really blame it completely on him. His family hates him for no good reason at all, and that can lead to issues, but I think that he is old enough to realize that he needs to get over it. When it comes to being a powerful bender, I think that that his phycological issues get in the way sometimes, like he's so focused on being the best and getting his father's approval that he's not really intent on being his best (which can be really great). That's not being very powerful to me. For being sixteen, I guess that he is decently powerful, because he has already defeated (narrowly) Zhao, and we have seen in the second-season starter how he took out a few of those elites. Plus, he obviously wants to advance his skills and meditates regulary to clear his mind of things that might get in his way. However, if he was powerful, he would have gotten a better hold of Aang already, he would have defeated Zhao more easily, Katara would have been toast sooner in their fight, and his sister probably wouldn't be so atagonizing. Plus, as Iroh can bend lightning, too, he is more than able to learn how to bend it himself. So, I guess at first glance he is a powerful bender, but if you look deeper into the picture he really isn't. --------------- That's all I have right now; I'll add more on to it later. I'm so tired and classes start in 15 minutes, so I gotta go.
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Post by Confettie on Apr 4, 2006 13:02:40 GMT -5
The question is Zuko a powerful bender not is he going to be a powerful bender? We can't concern ourselves with what Zuko might be, but what he actually is.
Zhao for one is NOT a powerful bender he's just charismatic and probably use his family name to move up in ranks. Just because some has a high rank does mean they earn it due to their strength. Zhao started out in a well to do family which allow him to move up ranks faster. How do I know he started in a well to do family because his teacher was Jeong Jeong a highly rank official in the Fire Nation army.
Jeong Jeong is not going to waste his precious time training some nobody new recruit. Also when Zhao left his study he didn't get reprimanded, how was it possible for him to leave his bending school. Because he has money and most likely is a noble from the Fire Nation. So no Zhao is not a "powerful bender". Another reason he as immature or even more so then Zuko. His whole rant of being the "moon slayer" was so childish it made the whole Fire Nation look stupid for having him in such a high rank.
A dragon will be teased by a shrimp in a shoal water; a tiger will be bullied by a dog on a treeless plain.
^ A Chinese proverb means one maybe powerful when in their own environment but in another's they are nothing. Leading to the conclusion that if you are indeed powerful it wouldn't matter where you are you will still be powerful.
Zuko is only strong when he is in the Sun. We all know that he said so and it on every Zutara sig. When he is in the moon he gets his butt kick. So Zuko isn't strong when he out of his element meaning he isn't a powerful bender. Comparing him to someone else... Aang who no matter where he is will always make a difference. Being that he is under the sea, in a huge storm, in the Fire nation volcano he still strong.
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