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Post by grandmaster192 on Jun 26, 2007 23:56:33 GMT -5
Bumi. He's not blind, and his bending moves look way better then Toph's. Anyone who says Toph is better is just saying it because they like her better. Y'all know dang well that Bumi is better.
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Post by almighty on Jun 27, 2007 0:06:31 GMT -5
I am going to have to say Bumi.
[copy and pasted from other post]
We don't know if Bumi will ever be shown again to actually see his true earthbending potential whereas Toph will get more episodes that show case her abilities. Those episodes can help Toph's argument, but Bumi only has two episodes, (more like 1 since "Return to Omashu... he wasn't really fighting) to actually have as evidenciary support.
In essense, everything points as a bias towards Toph who, evidently, has many more episodes than Bumi. All we know is that they are both self-proclaimed earthbending masters.
Both have weaknesses. Toph is weak when in water or on sand. She cannot see. She cannot attack airborne enemies (a la the gigantic flies) without someone else's help. Bumi, on the otherhand, well, it's not known that he can bend metal or not. For the sake of discussion, let's just say he can't for now.
Rather than drawing conclusions based on ability to earthbend alone, what about their intellect? Toph is young and a bit naive. She's going through an experience that can ultimately change her as a person. She's pretty headstrong and tends to fight that way. We've seen her headstrong attacks against Azula in "The Chase". She's very good at reading people, however, through earthbending.
What's not to say that Bumi can do the same? Bumi is known to think outside of the box and rather crafty. That in battle is rather dangerous for his opponent. Whereas Toph is going through an experience at the present, Bumi has already gone through it. Dangit, he's 112 years old. You've got to assume he's been through SOMETHING in his 112 years of existence.
Let me just end my rambling here and finally conclude. Bumi is the greatest earthbender AT THE PRESENT. Toph has the potential to become the greatest IN THE FUTURE.
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Post by avatarjens on Jun 29, 2007 14:16:32 GMT -5
toph is a great earthfighter
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Post by Chaobunny on Jun 29, 2007 20:46:53 GMT -5
I am going to have to say Bumi. [copy and pasted from other post] We don't know if Bumi will ever be shown again to actually see his true earthbending potential whereas Toph will get more episodes that show case her abilities. Those episodes can help Toph's argument, but Bumi only has two episodes, (more like 1 since "Return to Omashu... he wasn't really fighting) to actually have as evidenciary support. In essense, everything points as a bias towards Toph who, evidently, has many more episodes than Bumi. All we know is that they are both self-proclaimed earthbending masters. Both have weaknesses. Toph is weak when in water or on sand. She cannot see. She cannot attack airborne enemies (a la the gigantic flies) without someone else's help. Bumi, on the otherhand, well, it's not known that he can bend metal or not. For the sake of discussion, let's just say he can't for now. Rather than drawing conclusions based on ability to earthbend alone, what about their intellect? Toph is young and a bit naive. She's going through an experience that can ultimately change her as a person. She's pretty headstrong and tends to fight that way. We've seen her headstrong attacks against Azula in "The Chase". She's very good at reading people, however, through earthbending. What's not to say that Bumi can do the same? Bumi is known to think outside of the box and rather crafty. That in battle is rather dangerous for his opponent. Whereas Toph is going through an experience at the present, Bumi has already gone through it. Dangit, he's 112 years old. You've got to assume he's been through SOMETHING in his 112 years of existence. Let me just end my rambling here and finally conclude. Bumi is the greatest earthbender AT THE PRESENT. Toph has the potential to become the greatest IN THE FUTURE. Wow a lot of really nice thinking. Karma for the in-depth post.
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Post by hokeypokey on Jun 29, 2007 23:16:48 GMT -5
=) There is plenty to say but I am not saying it. Yes.
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Post by Kana on Jun 29, 2007 23:21:32 GMT -5
I think, if they ever got into a fight, there would be no victor and the battle would continue until one of them gets too tired. Which would be Toph, since she is younger.
I don't know why people are making big deal out of this though. Does it really matter who is better?
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Post by almighty on Jun 30, 2007 1:01:27 GMT -5
I think, if they ever got into a fight, there would be no victor and the battle would continue until one of them gets too tired. Which would be Toph, since she is younger. I don't know why people are making big deal out of this though. Does it really matter who is better? To you it may not matter. Then again, I can argue whether or not shipping is an important matter or not. I simply stated what I thought. Actually, I wanted to get everything out because, after reading some people's posts, it only seemed like they picked Toph to be better simply because she's their favorite character. Relatively speaking, just because Toph can metal bend doesn't mean she's the almighty, undefeatable earthbender. In a one on one battle against Toph and Bumi, do you honestly think that there will be a metal field?
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Post by toph1 on Jun 30, 2007 7:43:50 GMT -5
toph is the best
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Post by toph1 on Jun 30, 2007 7:44:09 GMT -5
and i am toph
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Post by toph1 on Jun 30, 2007 7:44:36 GMT -5
and toph is a boy
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Post by mike1921 on Jun 30, 2007 9:21:30 GMT -5
No SHE isn't Bumi. He's not blind, and his bending moves look way better then Toph's. Anyone who says Toph is better is just saying it because they like her better. Y'all know dang well that Bumi is better. Toph's blindness is an advantage. Just because Bumi's moves look better doesn't mean he fights better.
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Post by mxcncarebear on Jul 1, 2007 22:08:13 GMT -5
what i would like to see is toph vs garra from NARUTO
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Post by nhldork87 on Jul 1, 2007 22:10:49 GMT -5
Toph. She is so far the only earthbender who can bend metal, and that's something to brag about!
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Post by SpiritBender on Jul 3, 2007 12:58:19 GMT -5
Bumi. He's not blind, and his bending moves look way better then Toph's. Anyone who says Toph is better is just saying it because they like her better. Y'all know dang well that Bumi is better. Wow, grandmaster 192 for once we're actually in agreement! I tend to agree that Toph is one of the most popular characters probably because considering the target audience of the show, more people seem to relate to her than any other character. While Toph is a master of neutral jing, which is what Bumi said is the key to earthbending, Bumi has a 100 years of experience on Toph. Not to mention he has a cleverness and trickiness to him that is unmatched by any other character on the show. If they fought right now, I think it would be a really good battle, but Bumi would still come out ahead, metal-bending or no metal-bending. (I also suspect that Bumi might be able to metal-bend as well, but we'll have to see.) Toph has a lot of growing up to do. While she has gained some maturity and learned a bit of flexibility and teamwork from being around the Avatar, she still has a long way to go. I'd say that eventually she has the potential to equal or surpass Bumi, but for now Bumi is still the greatest earthbender. I really wish he was on the show more often; if he was, he'd probably be my favorite character! -- SpiritBender
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Post by UnKnownShadow on Oct 9, 2007 22:19:39 GMT -5
Toph is stronger for one reason, King Bumi said it himself. He told Aang that teacher for earth bending will be one who has mastered neutral jin. Neutral Jin is the key to being an earth bender. Toph is Aang's teacher so there-fore, if she's the avatar's teacher she has to have to be very skilled.
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