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Post by Lanugi on Jun 22, 2007 1:43:31 GMT -5
I thought this was a slash board myself, at first. x3 But I'm all for Irko! Bring on the family lovin'!
@skye: That'd be some crazy stuff if that were true. A genuine "What a tvest!" moment.
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Post by Irko Leader Endless on Jun 22, 2007 2:46:07 GMT -5
Yay! We have another Irko member! Welcome aboard Lanugi dear! Here, take a set and have some yummy tea. *hands you a glass, and tea to everyone else* It's made with love ya know. xD;
Anyhow...the whole thing was a dream? Whoa. That would be a interesting twist. Just like on Dallas. Then suddenly Zuko would get up, go into the living room, and find out that nothing happened! That they're still in their old apartment, and that their planing on moving. Iroh is making some tea, and concerned for Zuko, since he's up and about...being that he's still sick. lolz. Interesting to say the lest. doubtanyonegotthatreference
But seriously, I could clearly see M&B cutting a scene away from Zuko and Iroh to not spoil anything, because they have done that before in The Waterbending Master. Everyone thought Zuko was killed in the exposition, but it turns out that Zuko was alive and well...with a few minor cuts. And it gave hint to a cut scene with them together after the ship went up in flames. Being that Iroh was saying that their plan was working, and Zuko was complaining about that he didn't have to help him. So apparently, there was a cut scene which added a lot more to the plot, but had to be cut for the sake of the suspense.
And I can see them going down the same road again...because it would be a huge surprise to the viewers:
Zuko: (grinning) Our plan is working perfectly Uncle. Azula doesn't suspect a thing. She truly thinks that I'm on her side.
I could see him saying something along the lines of that to Iroh from his cell, such as Iroh had done with his nephew aboard Zhao's ship...if this turns out to be a trick however.
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Post by LiveInThaskyE on Jun 22, 2007 4:02:46 GMT -5
^^Yea I could see that too,I pretty much expect it from Zuko in the season. If it doesn't go that way,I will be extremely shocked.
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Post by greedyslayer on Jun 22, 2007 12:36:05 GMT -5
Anyhow...the whole thing was a dream? Whoa. That would be a interesting twist. Just like on Dallas. Then suddenly Zuko would get up, go into the living room, and find out that nothing happened! That they're still in their old apartment, and that their planing on moving. Iroh is making some tea, and concerned for Zuko, since he's up and about...being that he's still sick. lolz. Interesting to say the lest. doubtanyonegotthatreference If you're talking about the Dallas reference, I think I vaguely got it...if only because I got the same reference before in this really cool on-line Spider-Man essay I read, and went into detail and explained how Dallas pulled "it was all a dream" too. Honestly, origin of the dream theory for me? During the season finale, as it drew to a close, I was repeating in my head like a mantra: "wake up, Zuko, wake up, say it isn't so, say it was all a really bad dream, a nightmare...." Now I'm hoping for the season 3 premiere. ^^; Perfectly exact sequence of events there endlessflame; Zuko wakes up and finds everything normal; but to keep the plot moving, Zuko's gonna be getting a foreboding sense of deja vu as things happen--could be an interesting way to start the season up, return to the events of the season 2 finale and mix them up and throw in some twists. XP Ideal resolution to that moment of Zuko having to choose between Azula and Aang; Zuko attacks Azula, but then tells Aang and Katara something akin to "She's MINE; get my Uncle the hell out of here!" Iroh comes running chased by a gazillion Dai Li and it's a huge free-for-all; things still occur as they happen, Aang gets shot down, Iroh covers their escape, but Zuko refuses to leave his uncle--so it ends with fallen Bai Sing Se, Aang barely alive; Iroh AND Zuko both captured, pending a disastrous reunion with Fire Lord Ozai and put on trial in the Fire Nation for treason--they're going home, all right.
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Post by Koikitten on Jun 22, 2007 13:14:46 GMT -5
If the CoD was a dream, I'll be going up on my rooftop and going all lightning-Zuko.
I love this between-the-lines stuff you guys are coming up with! If I knew anything about Asian symbolism, I'd also start looking into that. I'm sure there's some strong stuff in this "ship."
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Post by Growly on Jun 22, 2007 16:26:15 GMT -5
I can support this - I've always loved the paternal role that Iroh has assumed for Zuko. I'm even one of those folks who has dabbled (at least in the realm of fanfiction) in the possibility of Iroh as Zuko's real father.
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Post by taiyo *on limited hiatus* on Jun 22, 2007 16:30:34 GMT -5
OMG! GROWLY!!!! *glompage* You did? Waana share?
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Post by nandireya on Jun 22, 2007 18:33:56 GMT -5
There are many who have theories about Iroh being Zuko's real father...or GRANDfather
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Post by aangryjerk on Jun 22, 2007 18:40:05 GMT -5
Well, I think it's best that he remains Zuko's Uncle. For one thing, it would just be sort of icky to think Iroh was fooling around with Ursa.
Though I do recall a theory that Azulon had ordered Ozai to give Zuko to Iroh, instead of killing Zuko as Azula made everyone believe. But I don't think it would really do anythng for the story, since Iroh has practically taken Zuko as his own anyway.
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Post by nandireya on Jun 22, 2007 18:45:38 GMT -5
I've never cared for any of the Ozai is not Zuko's father theories either...mostly based on the fact that many Zuko fans want him to come from better stock...but that doesn't take into consideration Ursa, who I've always felt he takes after far more than Ozai...
Viva the Iroh/Zuko father/son-like relationship!
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Post by LiveInThaskyE on Jun 22, 2007 18:49:29 GMT -5
Well, I think it's best that he remains Zuko's Uncle. For one thing, it would just be sort of icky to think Iroh was fooling around with Ursa. Though I do recall a theory that Azulon had ordered Ozai to give Zuko to Iroh, instead of killing Zuko as Azula made everyone believe. But I don't think it would really do anythng for the story, since Iroh has practically taken Zuko as his own anyway. Yea,that would be redundant unto itself. If Iroh really was Zuko's dad,that would change everything.
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Post by Irko Leader Endless on Jun 22, 2007 19:19:22 GMT -5
Or fix a few problems. It's just the matter of how you see it, my mother and I, however do love the theories of Iroh being Zuko's father, and we have settled down countless times rounding up the proof from many different episodes, the most would have come from Zuko Alone. Of how Usra acted to Zuko and Iroh...etc. etc. But still, it's a compexed theory...one I adore acutally, but a lot find it...too...ehm...'icky' for Avatar. With that being said...*hides her list of so called 'proof' for that theorie*
But still, I agree Iroh has taken to Zuko as his own son, the thought of it being would be...good. In it's own way...since you can that Zuko really does take after his Mother, and Uncle for that matter. And Azula takes after Ozai. It's something yummy to talk about. But still the Fan Fictions are interesting of course, I love reading them, the angst around it is fun.
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Post by nandireya on Jun 22, 2007 19:29:29 GMT -5
Zuko's taking after Iroh may be based entirely on the fact that he's spent more time with him and the old man has helped develop the gentler nature that was always there. If he'd spent that amount of quality time with Ozai I'm sure those nobler aspects of Zuko's personality would have been totally squashed...just like in his sister...
It's possible that Zuko's banishment is the only thing that's made him more than a refection if his father.
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Post by LiveInThaskyE on Jun 22, 2007 20:29:34 GMT -5
Zuko's taking after Iroh may be based entirely on the fact that he's spent more time with him and the old man has helped develop the gentler nature that was always there. If he'd spent that amount of quality time with Ozai I'm sure those nobler aspects of Zuko's personality would have been totally squashed...just like in his sister... It's possible that Zuko's banishment is the only thing that's made him more than a refection if his father. Yea,its kinda making him Ozai's opposite. Iroh doesn't seem to be anything like his brother.
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Post by Tungsten on Jun 23, 2007 4:08:31 GMT -5
Sorry but according to the second rule as seen in the New RB rules thread
"2. Incest ships or statutory (pedophilic) ships (i.e. Meng x Pakku) are not permitted. Incest is never looked favorably upon and neither is romantic relationships between adults and minors. We do have a moral standard to uphold and this is a PG rated forum. These types of relationships are not permitted in society and they will not be permitted on DH."
If you guys want to discuss Zuko and Iroh relationship as a serogant father/son way feel free to go to the Character/General boards.
EDITED: Upon request from the creater of the thread, I ressurrected it in the Character Discussion Board but changed the name of the thread from Iroku to Iroh and Zuko sergant father and son Discussion. If this is a repeat thread, feel free to put this thread back in the trash.
THIS IS NOT A ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIP BUT RATHER A THREAD DEVOTED TO THE SERGANT FATHER SON RELATIONSHIP ZUKO AND IROH HAVE
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